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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4667224 times)
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March 02, 2015, 09:41:39 AM
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Don't know if someone already find it, but it seems to me that this thread

Yes it was discussed here a few pages back, and our researchers are examining it.
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March 02, 2015, 09:51:41 AM
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Don't know if someone already find it, but it seems to me that this thread

Yes it was discussed here a few pages back, and our researchers are examining it.


sorry for the noise then.

and keep up the good work!

edit: feel free to delete my post if you wish

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March 02, 2015, 09:54:17 AM
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Don't know if someone already find it, but it seems to me that this thread

Yes it was discussed here a few pages back, and our researchers are examining it.


sorry for the noise then.

Not noise at all. Please continue to post anything relevant.

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Not a moderated thread; only you can delete it. Not necessary though.

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March 02, 2015, 10:08:33 AM
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price growing fast, what's new?
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March 02, 2015, 10:17:42 AM
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Not noise at all. Please continue to post anything relevant.


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March 02, 2015, 10:27:15 AM
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I uploaded my presentation at Coinfest Estonia on the official forum: https://forum.getmonero.org/14/events/188/coinfest-estonia-2015. The video is not available yet.

Feel free to use is for advocacy (temporary direct link to the PDF)

The presentation was beautiful, waiting for the video

Thanks - that was two days of my life spent making that damn presentation:-P
Two days, that much? I thought it was only one day, you have been discreet to me, Ric Smiley
For information, my original presentation with Google Slides. You can judge the difference.

You could make the moneroeconomy.com website look like the presentation-design. It looks very nice. I might be able to help, depending.
Good idea! I'll check with Lyt0s if it is doable. We have a test website for just this. By the way, did you notice we changed the design recently (not much, mostly font-size, fonct-color and background)? http://moneroeconomy.com/forum/appearance-requests

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March 02, 2015, 12:28:08 PM
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I uploaded my presentation at Coinfest Estonia on the official forum: https://forum.getmonero.org/14/events/188/coinfest-estonia-2015. The video is not available yet.

Feel free to use is for advocacy (temporary direct link to the PDF)

The presentation was beautiful, waiting for the video

Thanks - that was two days of my life spent making that damn presentation:-P
Two days, that much? I thought it was only one day, you have been discreet to me, Ric Smiley
For information, my original presentation with Google Slides. You can judge the difference.

You could make the moneroeconomy.com website look like the presentation-design. It looks very nice. I might be able to help, depending.
Good idea! I'll check with Lyt0s if it is doable. We have a test website for just this. By the way, did you notice we changed the design recently (not much, mostly font-size, fonct-color and background)? http://moneroeconomy.com/forum/appearance-requests

I suppose install a theme with the ability to tweak it to look somewhat like that is a way to go. I am also fond of the sleek mymonero design. A mix of those could be cool. They a both fresh. The current design is a bit ehem.. archaic and heavy and lacks basic spiffy things such as favicons, vector-logo (for retina screens), decent cropping of images etc.  (I apologise for being upfront, but that has been the community sentiment)

Thanks for taking the suggestion in a positive manner.  Smiley
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March 02, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
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Nice to see some new names contributing to the discussion.

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March 02, 2015, 01:00:43 PM
Last edit: March 02, 2015, 01:14:17 PM by Quicken
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Hello,
I went to run Lightwallet today, and it can't get a connection with the default daemon ip.

It seems coolmining club has closed:
http://monero.coolmining.club/
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This pool is closed, not enough miners who are dumb enough to concentrate hashrate on 2 or 3 big pools.
Too stupid and too bad.
I would like to thank all the miners who supported this pool so far, i can count them on my left hand

UPDATE: I switched over to localhost in the config file, and fired up bitmonerod, and it has synced up fine now.
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March 02, 2015, 01:24:56 PM
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Don't know if someone already find it, but it seems to me that this thread

ring signature efficiency
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972541.msg10619684#msg10619684

is worth sharing here.

To make a long story short Adam Back is speculating on how reducing ring signature used in cryptonote:

This alternate linkable ring signature tends to 1/2 the size of the crypto note ring signature as the signature is 3+n values vs 2+2n values.

I haven't the skill to validate his claims but I thought than monero devs would be interested in such a claim.

What are the implications of this? Could we use this research to make Monero more efficient?
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March 02, 2015, 01:43:06 PM
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Don't know if someone already find it, but it seems to me that this thread

ring signature efficiency
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972541.msg10619684#msg10619684

is worth sharing here.

To make a long story short Adam Back is speculating on how reducing ring signature used in cryptonote:

This alternate linkable ring signature tends to 1/2 the size of the crypto note ring signature as the signature is 3+n values vs 2+2n values.

I haven't the skill to validate his claims but I thought than monero devs would be interested in such a claim.

What are the implications of this? Could we use this research to make Monero more efficient?

Quoting smooth to give you some answers:

Yes it could be incorporated but its not something to jump into, especially given the modest gain. Any cryptographic scheme, even small modifications to one, needs a lot of peer review and scrutiny before being ready for adoption.

Now by contrast something that made ring signatures fixed (modest) size, that would be quite something. You still wouldn't want to rush into it, but studying it and carefully reviewing it would be a matter of more urgency.

Is this something that could be implemented in XMR and would it be beneficial overall (due to smaller rings being larger)?

Anyone have a tl;dr for Adam Back's post on ring-signatures: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972541.msg10619684#msg10619684

He came up with a way to make cryptonote ring signatures about half the size (for larger rings; for smaller rings it is larger) and twice as fast to verify.


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March 02, 2015, 04:10:10 PM
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that was a pretty big drop in price. Is there any reason or just someone dumping ?
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March 02, 2015, 04:14:14 PM
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that was a pretty big drop in price. Is there any reason or just someone dumping ?

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March 02, 2015, 04:34:29 PM
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price growing fast, what's new?

Whales shaking weak hands out is over it looks like. For now at least. Smiley

Thanks for taking the suggestion in a positive manner.  Smiley

This is one great thing about this coin, The Devs don't fly off the handle and deal with things in a very professional manner.


that was a pretty big drop in price. Is there any reason or just someone dumping ?

https://vid.me/ima7

Fuck, Knew that Mintpal release was fucked up timing.

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March 02, 2015, 05:30:40 PM
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We're mainly interested in an improvement in overall complexity, and both schemes here are O(n). There is a sublinear ring signature paper that in O(log n) in size that we're looking at more closely.

Code:
XMR: 44GBHzv6ZyQdJkjqZje6KLZ3xSyN1hBSFAnLP6EAqJtCRVzMzZmeXTC2AHKDS9aEDTRKmo6a6o9r9j86pYfhCWDkKjbtcns
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March 02, 2015, 05:39:28 PM
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We're mainly interested in an improvement in overall complexity, and both schemes here are O(n). There is a sublinear ring signature paper that in O(log n) in size that we're looking at more closely.

Good to see your name in this thread, TT. Monero is in good hands.
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March 02, 2015, 06:09:21 PM
Last edit: March 02, 2015, 06:22:12 PM by Hueristic
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Don't know if someone already find it, but it seems to me that this thread

ring signature efficiency
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=972541.msg10619684#msg10619684

is worth sharing here.

To make a long story short Adam Back is speculating on how reducing ring signature used in cryptonote:

This alternate linkable ring signature tends to 1/2 the size of the crypto note ring signature as the signature is 3+n values vs 2+2n values.

I haven't the skill to validate his claims but I thought than monero devs would be interested in such a claim.

not so fast, even in Bitcoin there is a lot room for "improvement" (like replacing the elliptic curve that is unsafe) that simply cant be done without lot of study, if it ain't broke, don't fix it .

Sounds like LTC mantra and we all see how thats working out. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating implementing unproven tech, just saying stagnation is death.

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March 02, 2015, 08:08:54 PM
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Good afternoon folks, I coded a little bit on a node.js package for managing wallet in rpc mode.

You can find code on github : https://github.com/netmonk/moneronjs

You can find the very basic stuff i succeeded to implement : - getaddress - getbalance - get_payment (with a Payment_id) - get_bulk_payment

So far so good, the test.js demonstrates that it works.

I will implement transfer very soon, and also mechanism to get payment and validate it.

Have fun forking, welcome committing, and happy coding Smiley

PS: for all the Javascript Nazi, i'm just a beginner in this, so any comments and advice are very welcome.

Original poste on monero.cc : https://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/194/rcp-wallet-node-js-package
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March 02, 2015, 08:19:53 PM
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Sounds like LTC mantra and we all see how thats working out. Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating implementing unproven tech, just saying stagnation is death.

There is a huge difference between "LTC does not need development" and this one particular thing being viewed as not the most important of the many items we are working on.
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March 02, 2015, 08:27:59 PM
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Hi there!

Today I came across blocks 457254 up to 457258 which seem pretty odd to me. They all contain many transactions with fees of 0.1 XMR for small size transactions, this one http://chainradar.com/xmr/block/457255 , for example, has 23 transactions with a fee of 0.1 XMR plus a couple of normal transactions, totaling ~2.34 XMR in fees for the block.

Any thoughts about it?

I can explain the 0.1 XMR fee easily enough. That is what happens if you haven't upgraded your wallet to the version with per-KB fees. As you saw, on small transactions, you will significantly overpay.

I can't explain why someone would generate so many transactions like that.


Thanks smooth. I thought that after the per-kb fees update those transactions wouldn't be accepted by miners, but it makes sense to still accept them as long as they are not underpaid.

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