[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[rpietila]

Well it looks like you don't need to get any wallet software installed on TAILS to use Monero.  Although it'd be much better if there was deepnet hidden service versions of mymonero.com  So that all your web traffic doesn't have to pass through Tor exit nodes.  Which are all heavily monitored.  IIRC they're deepnet hidden service Electrum servers.

Also how is Monero's I2p development going and is there any timetables yet for releasing an I2p net only wallet.  TAILS does include the I2p software too btw.

I'm sure if someone were to offer to build this that they wouldn't find a shortage of investors. Some of us are disappointed that the mymonero was taken off the investment table 

Mymonero was initially funded by some of the most central people in Monerosphere.

We are not any more in the crowdfunding phase - to develop meaningful improvements to the already functioning core account software, we need six-figure USD additional funding.

Raising this from fragmented sources is not a good return on our time, but if one or two people (or a syndicate lead by one person) approaches me with this money, we will consider.

As much as I would like to say otherwise to benefit the service development, my opinion is that any extra $100,000 to be invested into Monero should be used to buy the coins and them only, because 250,000 XMR makes you one of the top-5 holders if you are not there already. Once this position is secured, cornering the service infrastructure starts to make sense.

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[fluffypony]

I sent an email to the Tails developers, on the news they are including Bitcoin in the distro, I ask them to give a look at Monero since its the best crypto for privacy, I have not thought before that it was really a problem but we do need an official repo for Monero someday:

the only way to add a software in Tails is to make sure there is an official debian package, well maintened, and it doesn't seems to be the case for monero...

cheers.

Electrum isn't a Debian package and is just a simple Python package afaik.  Does Monero have a very lightweight web wallet that can be generated with a deterministic seed only.  Until such a time it won't fit within the minimal TAILS distro.  The whole TAILS ISO is only 951.8 MB in size.  And needs to be able to run completely from permanente media like DVD-R's.

Actually you raise a good point - we could look at distributing *just* simplewallet with it, which is useful for generating offline wallets or to use with remote daemons. Something for us to look at.

[fluffypony]

Well it looks like you don't need to get any wallet software installed on TAILS to use Monero.  Although it'd be much better if there was deepnet hidden service versions of mymonero.com  So that all your web traffic doesn't have to pass through Tor exit nodes.  Which are all heavily monitored.  IIRC they're deepnet hidden service Electrum servers.

Also how is Monero's I2p development going and is there any timetables yet for releasing an I2p net only wallet.  TAILS does include the I2p software too btw.

We've got a Tor hosted version, but I'm...unhappy with the Tor setup at the moment. It's on the list of things to tighten up in the next month or two.

[fluffypony]

Problem: Can't restore correct wallet from seed.

Environment:
Ubuntu 14.04
Bitmonero Wallet v.0.8.8.7-1016712

Reproducible:
1. Created new wallet (0 - English for seed language), was given this seed (Wallet id: 42GWgC):

Code:

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2. Exit wallet
3. Run: ./simplewallet --restore-deterministic-wallet
4. Enter wallet name: test.bin
5. Enter (no password)
6. Enter seed
7. Gets wallet id 428RFv, the seed is repeated and identical except from one word, "incur" has been replaced with "incline".

Question:
So basically, I'm getting another wallet restored than the one I should. What am I doing wrong? Why is that word replaced?

Can you open this as a github issue so I can assign it to OranJuice?

[TheKoziTwo]

Problem: Can't restore correct wallet from seed.

Environment:
Ubuntu 14.04
Bitmonero Wallet v.0.8.8.7-1016712

Reproducible:
1. Created new wallet (0 - English for seed language), was given this seed (Wallet id: 42GWgC):

Code:

debut equip surfer tequila eldest heron eggs incur unnoticed nerves fawns ghost dawn revamp northern razor rafts wade calamity ocean zero evolved bygones cactus bygones

2. Exit wallet
3. Run: ./simplewallet --restore-deterministic-wallet
4. Enter wallet name: test.bin
5. Enter (no password)
6. Enter seed
7. Gets wallet id 428RFv, the seed is repeated and identical except from one word, "incur" has been replaced with "incline".

Question:
So basically, I'm getting another wallet restored than the one I should. What am I doing wrong? Why is that word replaced?

Can you open this as a github issue so I can assign it to OranJuice?

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/issues/235

[fluffypony]

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/issues/235

Fixed - this is really, REALLY irritating that I missed this - when I made final tweaks to the new English wordlist I introduced two nigglies, and somehow not a single one of my tests (create/restore ~5k keypairs, check that they match) managed to introduce the bug (as in I literally just checked my testlist, and none of the mnemonics have either of those two words in the mnemonic body).

For now and for future reference: if you have the words "launchpad" or "incline" in your seed you will have to change them, and use "ourselves" and "inline" respectively. Note that this fix has just been pushed to GitHub, so you will need to restore with commit c01069f or above.

We won't be able to detect this and act on it automatically, but we'll add a note for future restore attempts that detects either of these words and informs the user about the issue.

[Hueristic]

http://anonhq.com/bill-gates-calling-for-world-government/#comment-335455

Gates foundation wants the 3rd world under the banking systems thumb.

Bill Gates: The reason poor people face these agonizing choices is not just that they don't have enough assets. They also don't have access to a bank to help them use their assets effectively. If their savings are in the form of jewelry or livestock, for example, they can’t very well chip off tiny pieces to cover routine daily expenses.

http://www.gatesnotes.com/2015-annual-letter?WT.mc_id=01_21_2015_DO_com_domain_0_00&page=3&lang=en

[coinits]

http://anonhq.com/bill-gates-calling-for-world-government/#comment-335455

Gates foundation wants the 3rd world under the banking systems thumb.

Bill Gates: The reason poor people face these agonizing choices is not just that they don't have enough assets. They also don't have access to a bank to help them use their assets effectively. If their savings are in the form of jewelry or livestock, for example, they can’t very well chip off tiny pieces to cover routine daily expenses.

http://www.gatesnotes.com/2015-annual-letter?WT.mc_id=01_21_2015_DO_com_domain_0_00&page=3&lang=en

Yeah. Step one was poisoning them with vaccines to dumb them down and making them sick, making them compliant and now on to Step 2.

[jehst]

monero.cc no longer redirects to getmonero.org

[Joshuar]

monero.cc no longer redirects to getmonero.org

Just checked, it does redirect to getmonero.org

Maybe you typed it wrong?

[GingerAle]

monero.cc no longer redirects to getmonero.org

Just checked, it does redirect to getmonero.org

Maybe you typed it wrong?

no, he used www.monero.cc
and not monero.cc

silly world wide web subdomain.

[Globb0]

hostname

[matthewh3]

I sent an email to the Tails developers, on the news they are including Bitcoin in the distro, I ask them to give a look at Monero since its the best crypto for privacy, I have not thought before that it was really a problem but we do need an official repo for Monero someday:

the only way to add a software in Tails is to make sure there is an official debian package, well maintened, and it doesn't seems to be the case for monero...

cheers.

Electrum isn't a Debian package and is just a simple Python package afaik.  Does Monero have a very lightweight web wallet that can be generated with a deterministic seed only.  Until such a time it won't fit within the minimal TAILS distro.  The whole TAILS ISO is only 951.8 MB in size.  And needs to be able to run completely from permanente media like DVD-R's.

Actually you raise a good point - we could look at distributing *just* simplewallet with it, which is useful for generating offline wallets or to use with remote daemons. Something for us to look at.

Yeah a simple wallet package that uses - mymonero.com - as a backend similar to how Electrum works.  Could be very useful and become the bases for building lots of different lightweight wallets.  For mobile devices for example.

[fluffypony]

monero.cc no longer redirects to getmonero.org

Just checked, it does redirect to getmonero.org

Maybe you typed it wrong?

no, he used www.monero.cc
and not monero.cc

silly world wide web subdomain.

Added a redirect for www

[GTO911]

Is anybody interested in changing the current Monero logo. Imo it looks too cartoonish for such superior tech. It should be edgy and sharp. Marketing and image need to taken seriously. Lets hold a contest

[GingerAle]

Is anybody interested in changing the current Monero logo. Imo it looks too cartoonish for such superior tech. It should be edgy and sharp. Marketing and image need to taken seriously. Lets hold a contest

i'd be interested to see what is created, but IIRC, the current logo was professionally designed and effectively stands out from the others.

I think what is more important is to get the equivalent of BTC goin.

an M with a horizontal line thru it?

[fluffypony]

Is anybody interested in changing the current Monero logo. Imo it looks too cartoonish for such superior tech. It should be edgy and sharp. Marketing and image need to taken seriously. Lets hold a contest

It went through quite a rigorous contest on 99designs and here, and we really struggled to pick a logo from the high-quality submissions that we liked. When we had a handful of finalists (4 or 5, iirc) that we discussed / argued / debated at length. We then invited input from marketing specialists, advertisers, graphic designers, and brand experts, from various industries and various parts of the world. The Monero logo that we selected was the only one that was universally liked by them.

[rpietila]

Monero logo is very good. It might be that the Crypto Kingdom logo needs to be more logo-ish in the future though, and I advise the interested to consider that one and donate designs 

[GTO911]

We then invited input from marketing specialists, advertisers, graphic designers, and brand experts, from various industries and various parts of the world.

Still came up with a logo looking like a kids toy brand.

Most of the 99designs have been deleted now and the remaining ones are nothing to talk about.

I found some designs digging up our own forum contest.

These designs actually describe Monero in a graphical manner. These should have been used as an inspiration.







To achieve perfection, sometimes one has to act like a dictator

[Hueristic]

Problem: Can't restore correct wallet from seed.

Environment:
Ubuntu 14.04
Bitmonero Wallet v.0.8.8.7-1016712

Reproducible:
1. Created new wallet (0 - English for seed language), was given this seed (Wallet id: 42GWgC):

Code:

debut equip surfer tequila eldest heron eggs incur unnoticed nerves fawns ghost dawn revamp northern razor rafts wade calamity ocean zero evolved bygones cactus bygones

2. Exit wallet
3. Run: ./simplewallet --restore-deterministic-wallet
4. Enter wallet name: test.bin
5. Enter (no password)
6. Enter seed
7. Gets wallet id 428RFv, the seed is repeated and identical except from one word, "incur" has been replaced with "incline".

Question:
So basically, I'm getting another wallet restored than the one I should. What am I doing wrong? Why is that word replaced?

Can you open this as a github issue so I can assign it to OranJuice?

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/issues/235

could this affect my holdings?
i did create wallet from seed and then used the same wallet again, but not with this version. i still hold the old seed.
thank you

Answered and fixed immediately.

Fixed - this is really, REALLY irritating that I missed this - when I made final tweaks to the new English wordlist I introduced two nigglies, and somehow not a single one of my tests (create/restore ~5k keypairs, check that they match) managed to introduce the bug (as in I literally just checked my testlist, and none of the mnemonics have either of those two words in the mnemonic body).

For now and for future reference: if you have the words "launchpad" or "incline" in your seed you will have to change them, and use "ourselves" and "inline" respectively. Note that this fix has just been pushed to GitHub, so you will need to restore with commit c01069f or above.

We won't be able to detect this and act on it automatically, but we'll add a note for future restore attempts that detects either of these words and informs the user about the issue.