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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4666981 times)
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November 26, 2014, 06:03:25 PM
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Is there a way to make Monero botnet proof?

Yes, by making computers botnet proof


I don't think botnets are that big of an issue.  

One of my theories as to why the hash rate has seen a fairly sudden drop over the last week or so is that some of the botnets are moving on to other ventures/being caught etc.

Can't agree, I think that professional miners hopping, not botnets. Or maybe I don't know about some profitable cpu-mineable coins. I still believe that XMR is a miracle for CPUs so far.
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November 26, 2014, 06:25:05 PM
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One of my theories as to why the hash rate has seen a fairly sudden drop over the last week or so is that some of the botnets are moving on to other ventures/being caught etc.

Can't agree, I think that professional miners hopping, not botnets. Or maybe I don't know about some profitable cpu-mineable coins. I still believe that XMR is a miracle for CPUs so far.

As said just a theory. I guess in reality in regards to whether the coins are being sold straight away or held professional miners and botnets do mostly the same thing.
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November 26, 2014, 06:32:13 PM
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One of my theories as to why the hash rate has seen a fairly sudden drop over the last week or so is that some of the botnets are moving on to other ventures/being caught etc.

Can't agree, I think that professional miners hopping, not botnets. Or maybe I don't know about some profitable cpu-mineable coins. I still believe that XMR is a miracle for CPUs so far.

As said just a theory. I guess in reality in regards to whether the coins are being sold straight away or held professional miners and botnets do mostly the same thing.

Exactly, miners usually mine and dump, it does not matter who and how.
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November 26, 2014, 08:27:17 PM
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Love the new MyMonero site! Sweet design and functionality.

I have a couple things I would love to see. I am a bush league python dev and would love to see a Monero API (perhaps from the myMonero site?) similar to block.io

I use block.io for developing ideas and seeing how this translates into actual programming and applications. If there were such an API for Monero I would happily develop and translate my other apps to use the Monero API. Just an idea. I WOULD develop this myself, but, alas I am a lowly python peasant with mediocre (at best) skill set. Tongue
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November 27, 2014, 01:37:33 AM
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http://cointelegraph.com/news/112995/report-proves-user-ids-can-be-traced-from-anonymous-btc-transactions

thanks for the Bitcoin Satoshi, Monero will take from here Smiley
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November 27, 2014, 01:41:24 AM
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Is there a place where anon debates take over? I would like to see the differences between monero, drk, sdc, etc.
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November 27, 2014, 01:50:38 AM
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Is there a place where anon debates take over? I would like to see the differences between monero, drk, sdc, etc.

rpietila Altcoin Observer has had a lot of these discussions, some though not all at a pretty high level of technical detail. I would start there but be sure to read the archive before bringing things up in a repetitious way.

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November 27, 2014, 02:30:15 AM
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It's certainly not a detailed technical differentiation, but here is a gif I just finished for sylviaplathlikestobake's art contest that compares btc, drk, and xmr: https://i.imgur.com/evtcybH.gif

Here is the link to the art contest, which is practically over at now (I'm a bit of a procrastinator plus I've been busy): https://forum.monero.cc/16/art/81/25-xmr-prize-for-the-best-monero-art-meme

Please let me know if you think there are any factual errors in the gif.
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November 27, 2014, 02:52:44 AM
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Please let me know if you think there are any factual errors in the gif.

Not errors exactly, but the relationship between stealth and ring sigs is a bit tighter than suggested. They work synergistically. For example, ring sigs also help protect the privacy of balances because it can't be determined if an output has been spent, only possibly-spent.

Nice work!
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November 27, 2014, 03:00:51 AM
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It's certainly not a detailed technical differentiation, but here is a gif I just finished for sylviaplathlikestobake's art contest that compares btc, drk, and xmr: https://i.imgur.com/evtcybH.gif

Here is the link to the art contest, which is practically over at now (I'm a bit of a procrastinator plus I've been busy): https://forum.monero.cc/16/art/81/25-xmr-prize-for-the-best-monero-art-meme

Please let me know if you think there are any factual errors in the gif.


very nice work!

IMHO the brown in the end is not a very nice and friendly color... but thats just my impression.

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November 27, 2014, 03:19:26 AM
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Not errors exactly, but the relationship between stealth and ring sigs is a bit tighter than suggested. They work synergistically. For example, ring sigs also help protect the privacy of balances because it can't be determined if an output has been spent, only possibly-spent.

Nice work!
Thanks smooth, glad I didn't muck anything up too significantly Smiley



very nice work!

IMHO the brown in the end is not a very nice and friendly color... but thats just my impression.
I was going for more of an orange-ish color to be like inverted from the monero logo, but I agree, it's pretty brown. I'll see if I can prettify it a bit and repost it later...
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November 27, 2014, 09:17:45 AM
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It's certainly not a detailed technical differentiation, but here is a gif I just finished for sylviaplathlikestobake's art contest that compares btc, drk, and xmr: https://i.imgur.com/evtcybH.gif

Here is the link to the art contest, which is practically over at now (I'm a bit of a procrastinator plus I've been busy): https://forum.monero.cc/16/art/81/25-xmr-prize-for-the-best-monero-art-meme

Please let me know if you think there are any factual errors in the gif.


I would have two comments:

First, the wavy blobs leaving Alice are maybe conveying the wrong impression. To me, they "look" worse than the darkcoin case: it feels like handwaving - literally. I would suggest making all but one of those blobs come from another direction entirely - not from Alice, to represent the inclusion of unrelated outputs in the ring signature. Then I guess you can have the wavy thing. Or maybe move them to be superimposed, then out again, with all but one disintegrating, to represent the fact than all but one are not in fact spendable by Alice on this transaction.

Second, the square blocks hiding Alice's and Bob's balances at the bottom aren't particularly visible, and you might consider a way to attract some attention to them in some way - maybe with a color change ?
 
That said, it is well done Smiley

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November 27, 2014, 09:51:54 AM
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Sorry if this has been covered, but can we have a summary of the features/changes coming in v 0.8.8.5?

I understand per-kb fees are coming. Anything else on the feature side?

Cheers, Q
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November 27, 2014, 10:18:35 AM
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Latest version of GUI Wallet released. Please check it out guys.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=873107.0
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November 27, 2014, 12:34:15 PM
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My current deal with Monero ends on December 20th as we came to an agreement for 60 days of BCX free Monero.

So is this the real reason Monero has been declining, XMR insiders making a deal with BCX so they can buy time to sell their bags?

The public hasn't been aware of any such deals.
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November 27, 2014, 12:58:02 PM
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So is this the real reason Monero has been declining, XMR insiders making a deal with BCX so they can buy time to sell their bags?

The public hasn't been aware of any such deals.
Yeah, obvious. Thank you very much for uncovering it.
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November 27, 2014, 01:00:13 PM
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What do you mean obvious, were you aware of the deal?
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November 27, 2014, 01:02:55 PM
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[...] words [...]

I really enjoyed the pleasant break from constant FUD and random noise.
Shame that good times never last long enough!  Cheesy

Btw, awesome job with MyMonero guys!
While I'm happy to use the current CLI release, I firmly believe the webwallet will help boost adoption at least to small'ish holders that would otherwise not feel comfortable using the CLI or holding their balance on exchanges. I created an account and moved some Monero over to test it out, everything worked like a charm!

Looking forward to all the many Missives ahead!  Wink

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November 27, 2014, 01:06:48 PM
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I think reason why Monero price is 0.0015 instead of 0.003-0.005 as was few months ago is that huge BTC or fiat bag holding Monero supporters connected more together. Might be in MEW or however and they see there is enough Moneros for all of them and they dont need to fight among himself and buy Monero, but just place offer at 0.0015 and pro miners will sell to them.

If you would monitor cautiously BCX actions toward Monero lately you would realize he is not really serious about what he says.
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November 27, 2014, 01:52:07 PM
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[...] words [...]

I really enjoyed the pleasant break from constant FUD and random noise.
Shame that good times never last long enough!  Cheesy

Btw, awesome job with MyMonero guys!
While I'm happy to use the current CLI release, I firmly believe the webwallet will help boost adoption at least to small'ish holders that would otherwise not feel comfortable using the CLI or holding their balance on exchanges. I created an account and moved some Monero over to test it out, everything worked like a charm!

Looking forward to all the many Missives ahead!  Wink
True that! I'll spread some Moneroj gifts this Christmas using the web wallet. Great timing.

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