danosphere (OP)
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Syscoin- Changing the way people do business.
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August 19, 2014, 09:25:04 PM |
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Good Work Dev. Keep up the spirit and hard work, there is still many who support s the coin :-) Were mining from the start, but now buying when still cheap :-)
Thumbs up From Denmark
Thanks! And a big Hello to Denmark! Love crypto, such a global community . You don't get this kinda of community in many other contexts.
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Lucky Cris
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August 19, 2014, 09:26:39 PM |
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Got to say how refreshing it is to see devs delivering on promises, easily contactable, problem solving, and so level headed in the face of so much unsubstantiated fud! There may be hope for the altcoin world after all. Well done!
THANK YOU We are working very hard to do things right moving forward and learning from earlier mistakes. Syscoin is very unique and even though there were some issues- this is a huge codebase to launch, and we're incredibly excited to see its potential realized as people realize its stable and can be built upon. Hey!!! I wanted to give the devs prop too lol But yes, I couldn't agree more. I don't know much about this coin, but I'd suspect that you guys' level of professionalism transferred over to the operational side of the house.
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Bigcabrito
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August 19, 2014, 09:28:49 PM |
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And the quality and longevity of those other coins you refer to? How many were scams? How many were glitched or failed to launch?
Do you spend months on a project working with a team and do you and all the members of your team work for free? I don't work for free. I do my work very well. My hobbies are what I do for free because I enjoy them and the quality is directly proportional to my interest.
So, how about you and your pals all get together for a quarter of a year and make us a coin, then pay us if we aren't savvy enough to make our own profit trading the free coin you guys are gonna be giving us right around Thanksgiving time. And throw in a turkey to feed my visiting relatives. Hey, pay for their gas to drive out and visit me, too.
Great talk, thanks for the inspiring words. Have a good day.
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danosphere (OP)
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Syscoin- Changing the way people do business.
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August 19, 2014, 09:33:21 PM |
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And their job is to develop a coin, not to subsidize you. That's what you have a mommy and a daddy for.
Mommy and Daddy, really. They didn't need 1000+ BTC to develop, you can do that without funding. Many developers build a coin without any funding. It's not their job to just "develop a coin", they went deeper due to requesting money from investors. Thanks for your input though, have a great day. And many developers take a 1% premine, wait 2 days, dump it all and then clone another coin and repeat. Don't forget audacious roadmaps that never materialize (anon! marketplaces! magic! pixie dust!). You're right, that doesn't take any effort. That is not Syscoin. See also: the last 2months of scams in crypto. Your Twitter bio says you're partners, yet you don't know if they spent your BTC or not? I think Moola indeed has to clarify something here
We are not myopically focused on the rewards here (but we do need them to keep goin) and we have faith in the product we're producing. Moolah is our partner and we trust them. We did agree that a decent portion of the 250btc could be applied as buy support at their discretion given the launch issues.
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Bitcycle
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August 19, 2014, 09:45:06 PM |
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good for you, but there are many people upset about this,..just fyi Yes, and their emotion is causing them to sell into my bids. Their loss, my gain. Feel free to keep doing it.
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Bigcabrito
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August 19, 2014, 09:45:36 PM |
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And many developers take a 1% premine, wait 2 days, dump it all and then clone another coin and repeat. Don't forget audacious roadmaps that never materialize (anon! marketplaces! magic! pixie dust!). You're right, that doesn't take any effort. That is not Syscoin.
See also: the last 2months of scams in crypto.
You just explained one scenario that kept repeating these past few months. But, go backwards to the beginnings (e.g. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Peercoin). You dont even have to look that far back, check out Darkcoin and you will see there was no premine, no IPO. They did not "need" it, they did not want all those investors. That was my whole point since I started this conversation, by doing the IPO you have commited yourself to the investors and in a sense the "Syscoin Team" does owe them. Anyways I was just defending myself against vicvelcro who spat out incoherent replies, in which I immediately understood he was under distress and stopped the conversation.
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lvyuan95
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August 19, 2014, 09:56:01 PM |
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And many developers take a 1% premine, wait 2 days, dump it all and then clone another coin and repeat. Don't forget audacious roadmaps that never materialize (anon! marketplaces! magic! pixie dust!). You're right, that doesn't take any effort. That is not Syscoin.
See also: the last 2months of scams in crypto.
You just explained one scenario that kept repeating these past few months. But, go backwards to the beginnings (e.g. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Peecoin). You dont even have to look that far back, check out Darkcoin and you will see there was no premine, no IPO. They did not "need" it, they did not want all those investors. That was my whole point since I started this conversation, by doing the IPO you have commited yourself to the investors and in a sense the "Syscoin Team" does owe them. Anyways I was just defending myself against vicvelcro who spat out incoherent replies, in which I immediately understood he was under distress and stopped the conversation. Let me get your point more straight forward: There are only two type of IPO investors, type one people who support this project, and type two people who want to make money out of it. And you, at least need to make your IPO investors happy, both type of investors. But look at everything now, are your type one investors happy? I'm afraid not. How about type two? lol you tell me? So here's the solution, to make type one people happy, you are working hard right now, that's good to see, and please keep it up. To make type two people happy, you need to set up buy wall on 516 sat ASAP, more investors going in will always benefit your project.
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goblynn
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August 19, 2014, 09:57:11 PM |
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And many developers take a 1% premine, wait 2 days, dump it all and then clone another coin and repeat. Don't forget audacious roadmaps that never materialize (anon! marketplaces! magic! pixie dust!). You're right, that doesn't take any effort. That is not Syscoin.
See also: the last 2months of scams in crypto.
You just explained one scenario that kept repeating these past few months. But, go backwards to the beginnings (e.g. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Peercoin). You dont even have to look that far back, check out Darkcoin and you will see there was no premine, no IPO. They did not "need" it, they did not want all those investors. That was my whole point since I started this conversation, by doing the IPO you have commited yourself to the investors and in a sense the "Syscoin Team" does owe them. Anyways I was just defending myself against vicvelcro who spat out incoherent replies, in which I immediately understood he was under distress and stopped the conversation. forgetting the darkcoin instamine so soon??
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stormia
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August 19, 2014, 09:57:14 PM |
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And many developers take a 1% premine, wait 2 days, dump it all and then clone another coin and repeat. Don't forget audacious roadmaps that never materialize (anon! marketplaces! magic! pixie dust!). You're right, that doesn't take any effort. That is not Syscoin.
See also: the last 2months of scams in crypto.
You just explained one scenario that kept repeating these past few months. But, go backwards to the beginnings (e.g. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Peercoin). You dont even have to look that far back, check out Darkcoin and you will see there was no premine, no IPO. They did not "need" it, they did not want all those investors. That was my whole point since I started this conversation, by doing the IPO you have commited yourself to the investors and in a sense the "Syscoin Team" does owe them. Anyways I was just defending myself against vicvelcro who spat out incoherent replies, in which I immediately understood he was under distress and stopped the conversation. I thought everybody knew about the huge Darkcoin instamine
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kelvng105
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August 19, 2014, 09:57:17 PM |
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And many developers take a 1% premine, wait 2 days, dump it all and then clone another coin and repeat. Don't forget audacious roadmaps that never materialize (anon! marketplaces! magic! pixie dust!). You're right, that doesn't take any effort. That is not Syscoin.
See also: the last 2months of scams in crypto.
You just explained one scenario that kept repeating these past few months. But, go backwards to the beginnings (e.g. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Peercoin). You dont even have to look that far back, check out Darkcoin and you will see there was no premine, no IPO. They did not "need" it, they did not want all those investors. That was my whole point since I started this conversation, by doing the IPO you have commited yourself to the investors and in a sense the "Syscoin Team" does owe them. Anyways I was just defending myself against vicvelcro who spat out incoherent replies, in which I immediately understood he was under distress and stopped the conversation. Seriously? DRK has about 50% premine sorry .instamine
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Bag Holding: BTC, VIA, XCH, SLG, VDO, SYS BTC: 1MJSbm9r6tKUx3XGNeWyjue8AgCoYFhf6Z VIA: VrYnZm1Fk2dk3aSwByoro4kaV5gCcmPwva VDO: VJzPMoyQ4NEXebn73t1ZGVPCCEtUGJjS8r
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stormia
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August 19, 2014, 09:57:35 PM |
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And many developers take a 1% premine, wait 2 days, dump it all and then clone another coin and repeat. Don't forget audacious roadmaps that never materialize (anon! marketplaces! magic! pixie dust!). You're right, that doesn't take any effort. That is not Syscoin.
See also: the last 2months of scams in crypto.
You just explained one scenario that kept repeating these past few months. But, go backwards to the beginnings (e.g. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Peercoin). You dont even have to look that far back, check out Darkcoin and you will see there was no premine, no IPO. They did not "need" it, they did not want all those investors. That was my whole point since I started this conversation, by doing the IPO you have commited yourself to the investors and in a sense the "Syscoin Team" does owe them. Anyways I was just defending myself against vicvelcro who spat out incoherent replies, in which I immediately understood he was under distress and stopped the conversation. forgetting the darkcoin instamine so soon?? Lol. Jinx.
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nomoreheroes7
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King of all the land
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August 19, 2014, 10:06:28 PM |
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And many developers take a 1% premine, wait 2 days, dump it all and then clone another coin and repeat. Don't forget audacious roadmaps that never materialize (anon! marketplaces! magic! pixie dust!). You're right, that doesn't take any effort. That is not Syscoin.
See also: the last 2months of scams in crypto.
You just explained one scenario that kept repeating these past few months. But, go backwards to the beginnings (e.g. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Peecoin). You dont even have to look that far back, check out Darkcoin and you will see there was no premine, no IPO. They did not "need" it, they did not want all those investors. That was my whole point since I started this conversation, by doing the IPO you have commited yourself to the investors and in a sense the "Syscoin Team" does owe them. Anyways I was just defending myself against vicvelcro who spat out incoherent replies, in which I immediately understood he was under distress and stopped the conversation. Let me get your point more straight forward: There are only two type of IPO investors, type one people who support this project, and type two people who want to make money out of it. And you, at least need to make your IPO investors happy, both type of investors. But look at everything now, are your type one investors happy? I'm afraid not. How about type two? lol you tell me? So here's the solution, to make type one people happy, you are working hard right now, that's good to see, and please keep it up. To make type two people happy, you need to set up buy wall on 516 sat ASAP, more investors going in will always benefit your project. These are actually all really good points. Either way, I still think it's imperative that the 465 buy wall remains firm. If that falls it will be nothing but panic, FUD, angry investors, and all around terrible atmosphere for the coin. A good technique may be to just build a huge wall at 465, so people don't see the wall that's currently there getting smaller and smaller and causing a tidal wave to wipe it out. A large wall signals confidence, and potential dumpers will think twice about dumping into it.
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tom14cat14
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August 19, 2014, 10:07:07 PM |
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Wow people really do expect coin developers to make them money but not make any themselves. An demand the developers do xyz really. How about make your own coin if you dont like this one. Go buy the next scam coin and then complain to bittrex that you lost and it was their fault for not checking the code for you. I think I will make the perfect group of coins for "investors" like these. First pump and dump coin followed by Suckercoin. I will vary between instamine or hidden premine. And you know what people will eat it up hoping they get out in time.
How about we give the SYS dev some time before we all panic and yell how he is screwing us. He is not hitting the sell.
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smalltimer
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August 19, 2014, 10:11:54 PM |
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good for you, but there are many people upset about this,..just fyi Yes, and their emotion is causing them to sell into my bids. Their loss, my gain. Feel free to keep doing it. maybe not the emotions but the mere fact that the coin is not worth a 1500btc marketcap in its current state?
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vicvelcro
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WARNING: I say "F*CK". A Lot.
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August 19, 2014, 10:14:22 PM |
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False perception on your part. If you own stock in a company, you should be able to expect that they will generate an income for which you receive a share. Some things break or need maintenance or don't always work on the first try. Nuclear reactors owned by power companies are a good example of all three things I mentioned. Now, as a holder of shares and thus in effect being part owner of said company, you also share the losses if there are any. There are many examples of this that you are welcome to go look for all on your own. In the case of SYS, you prebought coins or you are exchanging coins with others. You don't exactly own part of SYS or MOOLAH, I believe. I could be wrong about that part, maybe. So, you invest independently by negotiating a deal with a third party. Kinda like buying a used car. The manufacturer of that car has no obligation to you and probably not the seller either. You just explained one scenario that kept repeating these past few months. But, go backwards to the beginnings (e.g. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Peercoin). You dont even have to look that far back, check out Darkcoin and you will see there was no premine, no IPO. They did not "need" it, they did not want all those investors. That was my whole point since I started this conversation, by doing the IPO you have commited yourself to the investors and in a sense the "Syscoin Team" does owe them. I was very coherent. I called you a freeloader. Where was I not clear? I'm disgusted by how many people think that every stranger owes them something simply because they can pout really really well. That's the extent of my distress - gastronomical inversion caused by nauseating behavior from a whiner. Anyways I was just defending myself against vicvelcro who spat out incoherent replies, in which I immediately understood he was under distress and stopped the conversation.
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I know you believe you understand what you think I said, but I am not sure you realize that what you heard is not what I meant.
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lvyuan95
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August 19, 2014, 10:17:50 PM |
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And many developers take a 1% premine, wait 2 days, dump it all and then clone another coin and repeat. Don't forget audacious roadmaps that never materialize (anon! marketplaces! magic! pixie dust!). You're right, that doesn't take any effort. That is not Syscoin.
See also: the last 2months of scams in crypto.
You just explained one scenario that kept repeating these past few months. But, go backwards to the beginnings (e.g. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Peecoin). You dont even have to look that far back, check out Darkcoin and you will see there was no premine, no IPO. They did not "need" it, they did not want all those investors. That was my whole point since I started this conversation, by doing the IPO you have commited yourself to the investors and in a sense the "Syscoin Team" does owe them. Anyways I was just defending myself against vicvelcro who spat out incoherent replies, in which I immediately understood he was under distress and stopped the conversation. Let me get your point more straight forward: There are only two type of IPO investors, type one people who support this project, and type two people who want to make money out of it. And you, at least need to make your IPO investors happy, both type of investors. But look at everything now, are your type one investors happy? I'm afraid not. How about type two? lol you tell me? So here's the solution, to make type one people happy, you are working hard right now, that's good to see, and please keep it up. To make type two people happy, you need to set up buy wall on 516 sat ASAP, more investors going in will always benefit your project. These are actually all really good points. Either way, I still think it's imperative that the 465 buy wall remains firm. If that falls it will be nothing but panic, FUD, angry investors, and all around terrible atmosphere for the coin. A good technique may be to just build a huge wall at 465, so people don't see the wall that's currently there getting smaller and smaller and causing a tidal wave to wipe it out. A large wall signals confidence, and potential dumpers will think twice about dumping into it.
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tazmania
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August 19, 2014, 10:20:32 PM |
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As refunds seem more and more unlikely people try to get out what they can. A work in progress coin that could take off in the future.
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BITCOINDENMARK
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August 19, 2014, 10:27:01 PM |
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Good Work Dev. Keep up the spirit and hard work, there is still many who support s the coin :-) Were mining from the start, but now buying when still cheap :-)
Thumbs up From Denmark
Thanks! And a big Hello to Denmark! Love crypto, such a global community . You don't get this kinda of community in many other contexts. More hallo´s from Denmark
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Bigcabrito
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August 19, 2014, 10:29:10 PM |
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False perception on your part. If you own stock in a company, you should be able to expect that they will generate an income for which you receive a share. Some things break or need maintenance or don't always work on the first try. Nuclear reactors owned by power companies are a good example of all three things I mentioned. Now, as a holder of shares and thus in effect being part owner of said company, you also share the losses if there are any. There are many examples of this that you are welcome to go look for all on your own. In the case of SYS, you prebought coins or you are exchanging coins with others. You don't exactly own part of SYS or MOOLAH, I believe. I could be wrong about that part, maybe. So, you invest independently by negotiating a deal with a third party. Kinda like buying a used car. The manufacturer of that car has no obligation to you and probably not the seller either. You just explained one scenario that kept repeating these past few months. But, go backwards to the beginnings (e.g. Bitcoin/Litecoin/Peercoin). You dont even have to look that far back, check out Darkcoin and you will see there was no premine, no IPO. They did not "need" it, they did not want all those investors. That was my whole point since I started this conversation, by doing the IPO you have commited yourself to the investors and in a sense the "Syscoin Team" does owe them. I was very coherent. I called you a freeloader. Where was I not clear? I'm disgusted by how many people think that every stranger owes them something simply because they can pout really really well. That's the extent of my distress - gastronomical inversion caused by nauseating behavior from a whiner. Anyways I was just defending myself against vicvelcro who spat out incoherent replies, in which I immediately understood he was under distress and stopped the conversation.
It's great to read your opinion. You have excellent points, if only you'd be able to express them in a non-attacking manner. Like I said earlier, have a good day.
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