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September 06, 2014, 11:51:28 PM |
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No lose? How exactly will this deal go down? I've not read through the last ten pages or so.
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September 06, 2014, 11:54:01 PM |
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Is it confirmed that VRC bought their way into SuperNET? Or did James agree to help you guys sometime later, nothing to do with SuperNET?
no we are funding 500k vrc right now to show james that vericoin has still a strong and united community which is worth to work with. alot more details in the 2nd part od the irclog on page 788+ but he will help coding a unique feature similiar to btsx in short So none of this has to do with SuperNET? As earlier on the page someone listed VRC as a coin in the core. yes it has to do with supernet and no, theres is no such thing as a freepass into supernet core ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I never said free pass, I said bought your way in. If it gets added to the SuperNET core, what is to stop James from making other communities also pay to get in. well you shoulda have read the irc log like i recommended you and the answer to your question is still: No vrc didnt buy themself into supernet core
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September 07, 2014, 12:04:40 AM |
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Guys he will add some new tech features which will give the pass to the supernet core coin.. Not buying in..
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September 07, 2014, 12:09:01 AM |
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Guys he will add some new tech features which will give the pass to the supernet core coin.. Not buying in..
Yes that is buying in. His deal was to help prior to SuperNET. Now once you guys collect the funds he will make a new feature and put it in the core? That is exactly buying in.
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Alisho
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September 07, 2014, 12:11:31 AM |
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Guys he will add some new tech features which will give the pass to the supernet core coin.. Not buying in..
Yes that is buying in. His deal was to help prior to SuperNET. Now once you guys collect the funds he will make a new feature and put it in the core? That is exactly buying in. not exactly.. look at it from another persective.. he gets paid for his work in the way of buying VRC at 0.0001 sat at 50k or 100k sat who wants to work for free?
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September 07, 2014, 12:11:52 AM |
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this is a win win situation for vericoin.. we cannot lose and we have a chance to be part of something revolutionary! were safe with escrow and will be part of the core supernet. nothing changes for vericoins current plans and work , extremely impressed with how the community is coming together !
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kasman5
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September 07, 2014, 12:18:27 AM |
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Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
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September 07, 2014, 12:24:05 AM |
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Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
its a no lose situation ...
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September 07, 2014, 12:27:51 AM |
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Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
its a no lose situation ... No it is a lose situation. We are putting our money under the watch of three devs who so far have shown nothing but naivety. What's to say that the community all agrees the supernet was a fail but the devs overrule us all and give him the funds. Tell me how that situation is no lose...
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September 07, 2014, 12:28:49 AM |
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Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
I dont understand. So you saying you are not trusting effectsToCause our vrc dev? Because he is the escrow So you dont trust and believe in tge devs, why are you here? Because the devs are vericoin and vericoin the devs for the most part
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September 07, 2014, 12:30:23 AM |
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Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
I dont understand. So you saying you are not trusting effectsToCause our vrc dev? Because he is the escrow Correct.
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September 07, 2014, 12:32:41 AM |
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We've had no developments for weeks, no updates, lots of over hyping. I'm sick of it. Now some pumper wants to pump the coin everyone is getting giddy.
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September 07, 2014, 12:34:19 AM |
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We've had no developments for weeks, no updates, lots of over hyping. I'm sick of it. Now some pumper wants to pump the coin everyone is getting giddy.
This has no basis. Jl777 is no pumper or what you are describing. If you see no chance for vericoin why are here and didnt sold your coins alread? You are sick of vericoin because you are a bagholder now someone comes to help you get rid of that bag and you hate him for it. You thinking is flawed. Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
its a no lose situation ... No it is a lose situation. We are putting our money under the watch of three devs who so far have shown nothing but naivety. What's to say that the community all agrees the supernet was a fail but the devs overrule us all and give him the funds. Tell me how that situation is no lose... Up until now i see 3 people you included that are against it. Everyone else so far i met was positive about it. On the other side i see nearly 400 k in the escrow wallet
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September 07, 2014, 12:35:40 AM |
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Kasman. It's a no lose situation. If our coin doesn't appreciate in value massively from this then we own him nothing and all coins are returned to the senders. You only sell the coins to him once he's proven to provide real value and price appreciation to Vericoin shareholders in which case you are already up hundreds of percents in profit.
How long do we wait till we know if its successful? What is the price that is considered successful? Everyone says to give which I don't mind but details are sparse to say the least. Successful is atleast a 5X move to .0005 with the next level being .001, a 10X move. Effects will refund all escrow funds if the deal does not complete or if we never make it that high. In both situations you either get your money back or enjoy the 500% gains! The only losing move is to refuse to donate as much as you can and cause us to lose the deal. Here is the address and you can see how much the community has come together for this in an amazingly short amount of time! :-p https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6.htmOk buts what the time table before its considered a success or failure?? a day a week a month you get my point? I don't mind giving if the devs are behind it but I need to know some time tables before I give a nice portion.
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September 07, 2014, 12:39:04 AM |
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Kasman. It's a no lose situation. If our coin doesn't appreciate in value massively from this then we own him nothing and all coins are returned to the senders. You only sell the coins to him once he's proven to provide real value and price appreciation to Vericoin shareholders in which case you are already up hundreds of percents in profit.
How long do we wait till we know if its successful? What is the price that is considered successful? Everyone says to give which I don't mind but details are sparse to say the least. Successful is atleast a 5X move to .0005 with the next level being .001, a 10X move. Effects will refund all escrow funds if the deal does not complete or if we never make it that high. In both situations you either get your money back or enjoy the 500% gains! The only losing move is to refuse to donate as much as you can and cause us to lose the deal. Here is the address and you can see how much the community has come together for this in an amazingly short amount of time! :-p https://chainz.cryptoid.info/vrc/address.dws?VECuyuNjLDh437hJfABSxV1817D982S4H6.htmOk buts what the time table before its considered a success or failure?? a day a week a month you get my point? I don't mind giving if the devs are behind it but I need to know some time tables before I give a nice portion. The plan is for 6 months, but we will see price increase much sooner like 50+% right now. 60 mil marketcap in 1 year ( but tbh this is probaly the best case scenario) Also the price has to be stable and tech delivered of course
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September 07, 2014, 12:43:43 AM |
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We've had no developments for weeks, no updates, lots of over hyping. I'm sick of it. Now some pumper wants to pump the coin everyone is getting giddy.
Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
its a no lose situation ... No it is a lose situation. We are putting our money under the watch of three devs who so far have shown nothing but naivety. What's to say that the community all agrees the supernet was a fail but the devs overrule us all and give him the funds. Tell me how that situation is no lose... Up until now i see 3 people you included that are against it. Everyone else so far i met was positive about it. On the other side i see nearly 400 k in the escrow wallet exactly ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) we can't expect 100% of vericoin investors to agree but right now it looks like over 90% of the people who are aware of the situation is a big YES! If we raise the funds which I'm confident we will, it shows in itself the support of the community .
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September 07, 2014, 12:59:57 AM |
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We've had no developments for weeks, no updates, lots of over hyping. I'm sick of it. Now some pumper wants to pump the coin everyone is getting giddy.
This has no basis. Jl777 is no pumper or what you are describing. If you see no chance for vericoin why are here and didnt sold your coins alread? You are sick of vericoin because you are a bagholder now someone comes to help you get rid of that bag and you hate him for it. You thinking is flawed. Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
its a no lose situation ... No it is a lose situation. We are putting our money under the watch of three devs who so far have shown nothing but naivety. What's to say that the community all agrees the supernet was a fail but the devs overrule us all and give him the funds. Tell me how that situation is no lose... Up until now i see 3 people you included that are against it. Everyone else so far i met was positive about it. On the other side i see nearly 400 k in the escrow wallet Of course I'm a bagholder like 95% of the people here. My thinking isn't flawed I'm just a realist. This not revolutionary like people are saying. This dev wants to ICO before he even has any code out there. And even worse he's anon. At least with Ethereum there is people willing to sacrifice their professional profile for the cause. Also don't put words n my mouth by saying I hate this guy. I don't, I just want transparency and a deeper explanation as to what he is trying to achieve with supernet.
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September 07, 2014, 01:06:39 AM |
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We've had no developments for weeks, no updates, lots of over hyping. I'm sick of it. Now some pumper wants to pump the coin everyone is getting giddy.
This has no basis. Jl777 is no pumper or what you are describing. If you see no chance for vericoin why are here and didnt sold your coins alread? You are sick of vericoin because you are a bagholder now someone comes to help you get rid of that bag and you hate him for it. You thinking is flawed. Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
its a no lose situation ... No it is a lose situation. We are putting our money under the watch of three devs who so far have shown nothing but naivety. What's to say that the community all agrees the supernet was a fail but the devs overrule us all and give him the funds. Tell me how that situation is no lose... Up until now i see 3 people you included that are against it. Everyone else so far i met was positive about it. On the other side i see nearly 400 k in the escrow wallet Of course I'm a bagholder like 95% of the people here. My thinking isn't flawed I'm just a realist. This not revolutionary like people are saying. This dev wants to ICO before he even has any code out there. And even worse he's anon. At least with Ethereum there is people willing to sacrifice their professional profile for the cause. Also don't put words n my mouth by saying I hate this guy. I don't, I just want transparency and a deeper explanation as to what he is trying to achieve with supernet. Most of the code is done. Mgw runs for quite a time now. Instantdex and teleport is nearly finished. Just privatebet will take a bit. Also the code and every new code is updated at github to look over - james is actively supporting the check of his work.
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September 07, 2014, 01:10:19 AM |
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We've had no developments for weeks, no updates, lots of over hyping. I'm sick of it. Now some pumper wants to pump the coin everyone is getting giddy.
This has no basis. Jl777 is no pumper or what you are describing. If you see no chance for vericoin why are here and didnt sold your coins alread? You are sick of vericoin because you are a bagholder now someone comes to help you get rid of that bag and you hate him for it. You thinking is flawed. Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
its a no lose situation ... No it is a lose situation. We are putting our money under the watch of three devs who so far have shown nothing but naivety. What's to say that the community all agrees the supernet was a fail but the devs overrule us all and give him the funds. Tell me how that situation is no lose... Up until now i see 3 people you included that are against it. Everyone else so far i met was positive about it. On the other side i see nearly 400 k in the escrow wallet Of course I'm a bagholder like 95% of the people here. My thinking isn't flawed I'm just a realist. This not revolutionary like people are saying. This dev wants to ICO before he even has any code out there. And even worse he's anon. At least with Ethereum there is people willing to sacrifice their professional profile for the cause. Also don't put words n my mouth by saying I hate this guy. I don't, I just want transparency and a deeper explanation as to what he is trying to achieve with supernet. Most of the code is done. Mgw runs for quite a time now. Instantdex and teleport is nearly finished. Just privatebet will take a bit. Also the code and every new code is updated at github to look over - james is actively supporting the check of his work. Can you link me the github please. I just don't like the nature of this project. He seems a clever Dev but c'mon the anon part is worrying.
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September 07, 2014, 01:12:56 AM |
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We've had no developments for weeks, no updates, lots of over hyping. I'm sick of it. Now some pumper wants to pump the coin everyone is getting giddy.
This has no basis. Jl777 is no pumper or what you are describing. If you see no chance for vericoin why are here and didnt sold your coins alread? You are sick of vericoin because you are a bagholder now someone comes to help you get rid of that bag and you hate him for it. You thinking is flawed. Trusting the devs with the escrow doesn't appeal to me. The fact this James fella is anon is also a deal breaker. If he was serious about this thing he would be putting his identitiy out there for people to judge. It has got scam written all over this thing.
its a no lose situation ... No it is a lose situation. We are putting our money under the watch of three devs who so far have shown nothing but naivety. What's to say that the community all agrees the supernet was a fail but the devs overrule us all and give him the funds. Tell me how that situation is no lose... Up until now i see 3 people you included that are against it. Everyone else so far i met was positive about it. On the other side i see nearly 400 k in the escrow wallet Of course I'm a bagholder like 95% of the people here. My thinking isn't flawed I'm just a realist. This not revolutionary like people are saying. This dev wants to ICO before he even has any code out there. And even worse he's anon. At least with Ethereum there is people willing to sacrifice their professional profile for the cause. Also don't put words n my mouth by saying I hate this guy. I don't, I just want transparency and a deeper explanation as to what he is trying to achieve with supernet. Most of the code is done. Mgw runs for quite a time now. Instantdex and teleport is nearly finished. Just privatebet will take a bit. Also the code and every new code is updated at github to look over - james is actively supporting the check of his work. Can you link me the github please. I just don't like the nature of this project. He seems a clever Dev but c'mon the anon part is worrying. your concerns are completely understandable.. just look into it more and you'll prob have a change of heart i promise...
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