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August 19, 2014, 09:03:37 PM |
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Hi all
I'd like to confirm the news just posted here.
The XC and Qibuck devs are partnering to develop a feature that'll allow nodes to earn money.
A few details:
- We will make an official announcement about this on Friday.
- It's a particularly exciting feature that I'm not sure anyone else has thought of yet.
- The reason for the partnership is that by sharing resources we reduce both development time and costs, and in this case we will not disadvantage XC's market position in any way (more info as to why will follow).
- Silverkinguk (Samuel) is part of the XC team and so if he announces something it can be trusted.
- This is not the undisclosed PR-related development that I mentioned yesterday.
P.S. I've been aware of this development, but was not aware that it would be announced now. My apologies for the confusion.
Guys, can we focus on this.. Great news re nodes, i think this is a feature that will be key going forward and will help to bed in the idea of staking and holding coins for income and staying with "the project" Also the way I see the team is that Dan is the head in terms of technical expertise / leadership / direction... Synechsist is the expert mouthpiece... This is a new team though... And they will not be yet in the "perform" stage... You have to go through a bit of bedding in before you hit top gear... I trust Synechist to be laying down the rules, and I am sure that given time we won't see "leaks".... Remember a lot of these guys are working for the love and belief of the coin and not anything cold and hard so we should cut them some slack. I would take XC's up front and transparent delivery any day over the other crocks of poo that overflow these forums.. Sounds like Friday could be very interesting indeed to me..
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August 19, 2014, 09:07:18 PM |
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I do not think it's appropriate to conclude that there's a conflict of interest based on news of a collaboration. That makes no rational sense imo. - For starters, XC would not enter into a collaboration unless it was good for XC. - Secondly, Samuel would not want to jeopardise either one of the coins he's affiliated with, because it would affect him negatively.
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August 19, 2014, 09:12:23 PM |
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I do not think it's appropriate to conclude that there's a conflict of interest based on news of a collaboration. That makes no rational sense imo. - For starters, XC would not enter into a collaboration unless it was good for XC. - Secondly, Samuel would not want to jeopardise either one of the coins he's affiliated with, because it would affect him negatively. If the Crypto Currency Space was as united as the International Banking Sector, I am sure the market capitalization, technological enhancement and socio-economic growth of many Societies would indeed be phenomenal, if not life changing for a whole Generation.
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August 19, 2014, 09:15:38 PM |
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You know what I hate? Stuff put out there without "details".
You want to know what I dislike even more?
Stuff coming out from other people about work being done, that is not from the XC main team.
Yeah I said it. Have a nice day.
Yep, this looks a bit unprofessional as XC has a PR person currently. Hopefully this won't be considered as a PR stunt / pumping the value of both coins like happened last time when another coin's dev announced something prematurely. its pumped their coin. I afraid your right about pump! Another keycoin?
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August 19, 2014, 09:17:01 PM |
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I do not think it's appropriate to conclude that there's a conflict of interest based on news of a collaboration. That makes no rational sense imo. - For starters, XC would not enter into a collaboration unless it was good for XC. - Secondly, Samuel would not want to jeopardise either one of the coins he's affiliated with, because it would affect him negatively. Yeah. Those on Bitcoin Foundation are in no way affiliated/work at any company in the crypto sphere. Also ask Charlie Lee.
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August 19, 2014, 09:24:02 PM |
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I do not think it's appropriate to conclude that there's a conflict of interest based on news of a collaboration. That makes no rational sense imo. - For starters, XC would not enter into a collaboration unless it was good for XC. - Secondly, Samuel would not want to jeopardise either one of the coins he's affiliated with, because it would affect him negatively. If the Crypto Currency Space was as united as the International Banking Sector, I am sure the market capitalization, technological enhancement and socio-economic growth of many Societies would indeed be phenomenal, if not life changing for a whole Generation. I'd love to see some good collaboration between communities and different dev's working together to push technological advancements forwards. It's just miserable to see almost all of the coin threads filled with people spreading lies, namecalling each other and behaving very badly. Like a bunch of third graders on steroids with a plot to kill each other (actually, even third graders behave way better most of the time). Hopefully something good comes out of this and innovation starts to thrive a bit more ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And welcome to XC community!
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August 19, 2014, 09:26:17 PM |
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You know what I hate? Stuff put out there without "details".
You want to know what I dislike even more?
Stuff coming out from other people about work being done, that is not from the XC main team.
Yeah I said it. Have a nice day.
Yep, this looks a bit unprofessional as XC has a PR person currently. Hopefully this won't be considered as a PR stunt / pumping the value of both coins like happened last time when another coin's dev announced something prematurely. its pumped their coin. I afraid your right about pump! Another keycoin? because they announced collaboration with xc? how is that bad? it could easily be considered a strong indicator of investor sentiment regarding xc ...not to mention more pr. emotions are an odd element in this community. can negativity be more productive than self-defeating? ...it's hard for me to fathom. questioning is good, but how we ask those questions can make a huge difference when communicating.
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August 19, 2014, 09:30:41 PM |
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More important than who made the announcement is the fact that an announcement about an announcement about a yet-to-be-fully-disclosed feature was made.
I know qiwoman2 and silverkinguk were probably super excited about the collaboration and were probably just having a hard time keeping it in, but it's important to make announcements about things like this when full disclosure of detail is able to be given.
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August 19, 2014, 09:31:37 PM |
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Some of you need to have a drink ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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August 19, 2014, 09:36:28 PM |
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Who are these muppets selling at these levels, someone really should call a doctor....
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August 19, 2014, 09:47:50 PM |
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I thought this community was better than this. But some of you seem only to be interested in short term gains, thus the irrationality in your behavior. Just like when Dan announced he will review another coin's code.
Lame.
Bull shit. If I was only interested in short term gains I would have cashed out my thousands by now. Been with this coin from pretty much day one, and in fact have invested a good chunk of money into the coin myself. So please tell me again how I am only interested in a short term gain again? My behavior is FAR from irrational. What I say is a FACT that you dont want to set a precedence for leakage of info for any bob and joe can come in here and say whatever they want, and because it has become a practice, people will believe it. If it is something negative, your a fool to think that a flash crash could not happen, and would be very hard to recover from. +1 I agree doesn't hurt to like run this past us does it before making a decision..just saying, we have been here supporting the project from like it's birth...edit anyways im sure it's all for the best, just a bit of a shock...
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August 19, 2014, 09:55:28 PM |
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Ultimately, collaboration on additional features (that would otherwise be ignored apart from collaboration) will be a greater benefit to XC than for the coin they collaborate with. Let me give you a real world example: Imagine, if it were possible, that both Apple and Microsoft's mobile teams collaborated with each other to develop a single new tech feature that would greatly benefit the consumers of both companies mobile platforms. And imagine that they only had the capability to develop this feature through collaboration, as resources are limited. - Would it benefit both companies to work together? Yes, clearly.
- Would it be of greater benefit to either company to not develop this feature collaboratively? No, it would be less beneficial for both.
But perhaps the most important question:- Which company will benefit more through collaborative development of this single tech feature? Apple iOS, because no one fucking uses Windows Phone.
Qibucks will benefit. But ultimately, XC will reap most of the benefits from this one collaborative effort. Why? Because XC's lead is firmly established with superior technology and an incredible dev team.
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August 19, 2014, 10:05:39 PM |
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The main takeaway from all of this confusion is that there needs to be protocol that is strictly adhered to for information on new developments. The crypto environment is way too touch and go not to do this. The spread of misinformation and fear are all too prevalent, though avoidable if the proper channels of info are created and maintained. That being said, I'm looking forward to see what this collaboration will bring. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 19, 2014, 10:05:58 PM |
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Ultimately, collaboration on additional features (that would otherwise be ignored apart from collaboration) will be a greater benefit to XC than for the coin they collaborate with. Let me give you a real world example: Imagine, if it were possible, that both Apple and Microsoft's mobile teams collaborated with each other to develop a single new tech feature that would greatly benefit the consumers of both companies mobile platforms. And imagine that they only had the capability to develop this feature through collaboration, as resources are limited. - Would it benefit both companies to work together? Yes, clearly.
- Would it be of greater benefit to either company to not develop this feature collaboratively? No, it would be less beneficial for both.
But perhaps the most important question:- Which company will benefit more through collaborative development of this single tech feature? Apple iOS, because no one fucking uses Windows Phone.
Qibucks will benefit. But ultimately, XC will reap most of the benefits from this one collaborative effort. Why? Because XC's lead is firmly established with superior technology and an incredible dev team. This makes logical sense, but it's purely speculation and a prime example why announcements about announcements should be avoided - it just creates speculation. We have no idea what this collaboration entails other than that it is between XC/Qibucks and it is intended to help nodes make money.
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August 19, 2014, 10:06:40 PM |
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If it has Dans stamp of approval it can't be bad, He knows what he is doing, I dare not question his judgement too much respect for him.
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August 19, 2014, 10:13:09 PM |
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Collaboration is not the issue... I dont think many mind and also trust the XC team to do the right thing. My beef is how it was made public.
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August 19, 2014, 10:32:56 PM Last edit: August 19, 2014, 10:46:36 PM by The-C-Word |
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The collab is most likely related to tech or business connections (I'm hoping). I don't think the discrepancy in branding is going to be much of an issue.
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August 19, 2014, 10:38:33 PM |
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-my story-
The collab is most likely related to tech or business connections (I'm hoping). I don't think the discrepancy in branding is going to be much of an issue. It's not that I am not confident in the dev team, I trust they know what they are doing. But what worries me is that crypto markets are mainly driven by emotion and not rationale. So that collaboration with other coins increases the chance for (unsubstantiated) FUD. I somewhat suffer from "FUD PTSD" having been through all the drama of a few months ago, that is why I am so vigilant about it.
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August 19, 2014, 10:40:15 PM |
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If it has Dans stamp of approval it can't be bad, He knows what he is doing, I dare not question his judgement too much respect for him.
+ 1. cryptoland has a funny way of getting you all flustered at the slightest thing. deleted my earlier post. heres to the future.
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August 19, 2014, 10:40:31 PM |
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hey there was a site which compared all the different forms of coin mixing tech to each other.. anyone know where that is? I cant find the link..
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