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All right...how do I XChat? I notice people have something set up in their signature but I don't no where my key is...
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October 01, 2014, 06:00:54 PM |
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Noob Question - How do I download the update without sending the coins to an exchange, deleting the wallet and then installing?
Just download and run the installer v2.49.08 - BACKUP WALLET.DAT FIRST! Dan |
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October 01, 2014, 06:03:15 PM |
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As expected, testing produced some interesting bugs... work continues to resolve those bugs (duplicate msgs and multi-session handling)
also I will add a prefix in the group chat
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October 01, 2014, 06:06:13 PM |
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All right...how do I XChat? I notice people have something set up in their signature but I don't no where my key is...
okay to use XChat, make a new local wallet address, then right click to get your Pubkey - those 2 values are what you share however in an upcoming release, you can just use your alias/username |
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October 01, 2014, 06:06:43 PM |
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Dan - you da man.
Thanks for always being professional and straightforward.
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October 01, 2014, 06:08:08 PM |
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There is a topic about Coinshuffle on the front page of Reddit r/bitcoin, please upvote this XC post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxfq1pSynechist I posted your explanation of XCurrency ( http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxhc9q?context=3) and someone asked me: "I haven't quite grasped the scenario of 'what happens if a node that receives coins to mix just drops off the face of the Earth', what happens to those coins? How do you work around this? Side note: you should also consider building in a timeout setting, such that a node involved in mixing cannot hold coins for more than X seconds or Y coins or Z transactions (or some combination); else, they could sit there collecting as many coins as possible and then walking off with them - unless there's some other mitigation to this already? In short, how do you mitigate against rogue nodes? Yes you have mentioned something about kicking bad nodes out, but what's to prevent a rogue node from just re-spawning under a different ID?" Can you give me a response to give them or post there directly? |
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October 01, 2014, 06:08:27 PM |
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Dan I need to tell you something can you come in Xchat one sec?
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synechist
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October 01, 2014, 06:11:34 PM |
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There is a topic about Coinshuffle on the front page of Reddit r/bitcoin, please upvote this XC post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxfq1pSynechist I posted your explanation of XCurrency ( http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxhc9q?context=3) and someone asked me: "I haven't quite grasped the scenario of 'what happens if a node that receives coins to mix just drops off the face of the Earth', what happens to those coins? How do you work around this? Side note: you should also consider building in a timeout setting, such that a node involved in mixing cannot hold coins for more than X seconds or Y coins or Z transactions (or some combination); else, they could sit there collecting as many coins as possible and then walking off with them - unless there's some other mitigation to this already? In short, how do you mitigate against rogue nodes? Yes you have mentioned something about kicking bad nodes out, but what's to prevent a rogue node from just re-spawning under a different ID?" Can you give me a response to give them or post there directly? Thanks Mr_Random. Nice one. Onto it... P.S. Nodes received the whole transaction, not just the coins. They either sign the whole thing (thereby agreeing to forward coins) or opt out. There's no possibility of stealing. |
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October 01, 2014, 06:12:20 PM |
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There is a topic about Coinshuffle on the front page of Reddit r/bitcoin, please upvote this XC post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxfq1pSynechist I posted your explanation of XCurrency ( http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxhc9q?context=3) and someone asked me: "I haven't quite grasped the scenario of 'what happens if a node that receives coins to mix just drops off the face of the Earth', what happens to those coins? How do you work around this? Side note: you should also consider building in a timeout setting, such that a node involved in mixing cannot hold coins for more than X seconds or Y coins or Z transactions (or some combination); else, they could sit there collecting as many coins as possible and then walking off with them - unless there's some other mitigation to this already? In short, how do you mitigate against rogue nodes? Yes you have mentioned something about kicking bad nodes out, but what's to prevent a rogue node from just re-spawning under a different ID?" Can you give me a response to give them or post there directly? Interesting question but really thats how REV1 worked, REV2's trustless system doesn't allow a node to hold coins and "disappear" - since its an atomic transaction, so if the node drops off in the middle of the TX, then the TX fails and is banned.. Rogue/Bad nodes can't steal coins |
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October 01, 2014, 06:16:00 PM |
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okay to use XChat, make a new local wallet address, then right click to get your Pubkey - those 2 values are what you share
however in an upcoming release, you can just use your alias/username
Awesome; Thank you! |
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October 01, 2014, 06:16:36 PM |
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Dan I need to tell you something can you come in Xchat one sec?
sure - unless I'm building a new release, I leave XChat open 24/7 |
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October 01, 2014, 06:17:24 PM |
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okay to use XChat, make a new local wallet address, then right click to get your Pubkey - those 2 values are what you share
however in an upcoming release, you can just use your alias/username
Awesome; Thank you! Yes and it will be decentralised - (Proof of Identity) |
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October 01, 2014, 06:22:51 PM |
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Interesting question but really thats how REV1 worked, REV2's trustless system doesn't allow a node to hold coins and "disappear" - since its an atomic transaction, so if the node drops off in the middle of the TX, then the TX fails and is banned.. Rogue/Bad nodes can't steal coins
Understood. I knew you got the mixing working so it's trustless but I wasn't sure on the details of it. Thanks Mr_Random. Nice one. Onto it...
P.S. Nodes received the whole transaction, not just the coins. They either sign the whole thing (thereby agreeing to forward coins) or opt out. There's no possibility of stealing.
Cheers. I'll make a note of what you post on Reddit for future reference. |
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October 01, 2014, 06:29:17 PM |
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Yes and it will be decentralised - (Proof of Identity)
Now that is some cool stuff right there...looking forward! |
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synechist
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October 01, 2014, 06:34:14 PM |
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Interesting question but really thats how REV1 worked, REV2's trustless system doesn't allow a node to hold coins and "disappear" - since its an atomic transaction, so if the node drops off in the middle of the TX, then the TX fails and is banned.. Rogue/Bad nodes can't steal coins
Understood. I knew you got the mixing working so it's trustless but I wasn't sure on the details of it. Thanks Mr_Random. Nice one. Onto it...
P.S. Nodes received the whole transaction, not just the coins. They either sign the whole thing (thereby agreeing to forward coins) or opt out. There's no possibility of stealing.
Cheers. I'll make a note of what you post on Reddit for future reference. Only a pleasure. For the future, some terms you could use where relevant are: "atomic transaction" - i.e. one that can't be broken into parts, so that, say, coins can't be kept if other bits are left behind. "multi-party signature transaction" - all parties need to sign in order for the tx to be valid, kind of like m-of-m multisig. |
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synechist
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October 01, 2014, 07:19:08 PM |
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Any chance we gonna do a custom Blockchain rather then using a general site?
How about it KimmyF? |
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October 01, 2014, 07:31:19 PM |
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Bump. Let's spread this folks. |
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October 01, 2014, 07:32:20 PM |
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Any chance we gonna do a custom Blockchain rather then using a general site?
Like this ?  Credits to KimmyF |
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October 01, 2014, 09:02:20 PM |
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There is a topic about Coinshuffle on the front page of Reddit r/bitcoin, please upvote this XC post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxfq1pSynechist I posted your explanation of XCurrency ( http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxhc9q?context=3) and someone asked me: "I haven't quite grasped the scenario of 'what happens if a node that receives coins to mix just drops off the face of the Earth', what happens to those coins? How do you work around this? Side note: you should also consider building in a timeout setting, such that a node involved in mixing cannot hold coins for more than X seconds or Y coins or Z transactions (or some combination); else, they could sit there collecting as many coins as possible and then walking off with them - unless there's some other mitigation to this already? In short, how do you mitigate against rogue nodes? Yes you have mentioned something about kicking bad nodes out, but what's to prevent a rogue node from just re-spawning under a different ID?" Can you give me a response to give them or post there directly? Interesting question but really thats how REV1 worked, REV2's trustless system doesn't allow a node to hold coins and "disappear" - since its an atomic transaction, so if the node drops off in the middle of the TX, then the TX fails and is banned.. Rogue/Bad nodes can't steal coins If a node's internet connection goes down / computer crashes before it manages to sign, it's IP gets banned? One strike and you're out? And sorry I have dementia, but did the node have to have 500 XC or was it just the requirement for the xmixer? |
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