[XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos

[synechist]

Unfortunately I've been seeing the whole "not open source? It's just vapor" thing popping up much more frequently.  It seems no matter what kind of advances are being made people love to find some way to diminish them.

I agree - some people will not be able to appreciate a good thing when it's in front of them.

But hey, this is Bitcointalk. There is no end of trolling. We've just got to ignore the rubbish.

[cryptico]

Synechist in one post you say the blocknet is like internet in the other one you say it is not internet like realt internet...i'm still confused...

For something to be like something else is not for it to be the same as something else.

Identity /= analogy.

The Blocknet is the internet of blockchains. Therefore it functions like the internet and its utility derives from the same principles: openness, ease of access, efficient communication and retail...

But this doesn't make the Blocknet the internet. The internet is still generalised, whereas the Blocknet is inter-blockchain connections.

Make sense now?

For me is still difficult to grasp and I thank you for your effort in clarifying it I hope I will grasp it more when I see it in action.

[hoertest]

Hey, let's take a moment to get some perspective. Sometimes fudders can make it seem like XC is somehow lacking or in trouble, but that's a pure illusion.


- XC's private payments and (non-group) XChat are working beautifully.


- Nothing even remotely compares to XC's anon tech.


- We're on the verge of XC Mobile!

i have said for weeks now that this should be the core of the PR efforts. nothing will sell XC like its anonymity. which is the first and only that really carrys on with satoshis vision on all fronts while bringing full privacy.

this will sell XC and i don't see the point in waiting forever to communicate not to experts but in simple words what is getting worked on here. you do the same with blocknet. the PR was easy to understand compared to the mesh net ones. it has an emotional catch phrase with "internet of blockchains". we need that for XCs privacy tec too. like "privacy the Satoshi way" but thats probably to abstract but somthing like that.

i love the blocknet but it is to new to be the driving force here.

people will have to learn that the blocknet is beneficial for xc by seeing first hand. You can repeat yourself millions of times the next weeks it won't matter.

and please never use "enough said" again it sounds super arrogant even not intended.

I feel what you're saying here. Unfortunately I've been seeing the whole "not open source? It's just vapor" thing popping up much more frequently.  It seems no matter what kind of advances are being made people love to find some way to diminish them.

I'm willing to engage in that discussion. from a investor pow i'm glad that open sourcing later gives me the chance for higher ROI in case my trust in the team is right. nobody is forced to take that risk so i actually never understand that discussion anyway.

[synechist]

Hey, let's take a moment to get some perspective. Sometimes fudders can make it seem like XC is somehow lacking or in trouble, but that's a pure illusion.


- XC's private payments and (non-group) XChat are working beautifully.


- Nothing even remotely compares to XC's anon tech.


- We're on the verge of XC Mobile!

i have said for weeks now that this should be the core of the PR efforts. nothing will sell XC like its anonymity. which is the first and only that really carrys on with satoshis vision on all fronts while bringing full privacy.

this will sell XC and i don't see the point in waiting forever to communicate not to experts but in simple words what is getting worked on here. you do the same with blocknet. the PR was easy to understand compared to the mesh net ones. it has an emotional catch phrase with "internet of blockchains". we need that for XCs privacy tec too. like "privacy the Satoshi way" but thats probably to abstract but somthing like that.

i love the blocknet but it is to new to be the driving force here.

people will have to learn that the blocknet is beneficial for xc by seeing first hand. You can repeat yourself millions of times the next weeks it won't matter.

and please never use "enough said" again it sounds super arrogant even not intended.

I apologise for coming across as arrogant with the words "enough said".

It wasn't my intention. I simply wished to assert that I think a strong case for a given point is clear.

Then on the topic of marketing, remember we're in agreement about the significance of XC's privacy tech, and also in agreement that it should be marketed in normal non-technical language.

The consumer-marketing will begin when we have consumer products. It does not make sense to do so earlier than this, because people would just be attracted to something they can't use.

[synechist]

from a investor pow i'm glad that open sourcing later gives me the chance for higher ROI in case my trust in the team is right. nobody is forced to take that risk so i actually never understand that discussion anyway.

I think they're trying to argue (without any evidence) that the price is dropping because of XC being closed source.

They hope to persuade us to go open source out of fear that the price will drop further.

Personally I don't buy that for a moment. And from the past we're well aware of what happens when we open source our tech: it causes scams.

[policymaker]

Damn it I didnt catch the 70k price, I need more FIAT right now!!!

Because of the dump and general BTC crash (u get what I mean, even maybe poorly phrased), I believe its more than OK to convert FIAT to XC right now

[synechist]

Damn it I didnt catch the 70k price, I need more FIAT right now!!!

Because of the dump and general BTC crash (u get what I mean, even maybe poorly phrased), I believe its more than OK to convert FIAT to XC right now

Yes this is one whopper of a smart buyer's market.

BTC is largely confirmed (but not completely yet) to have commenced wave 5 of a large-scale 5-wave uptrend.

XC is at a low price on the verge of releasing mobile apps.

[hoertest]

Hey, let's take a moment to get some perspective. Sometimes fudders can make it seem like XC is somehow lacking or in trouble, but that's a pure illusion.


- XC's private payments and (non-group) XChat are working beautifully.


- Nothing even remotely compares to XC's anon tech.


- We're on the verge of XC Mobile!

i have said for weeks now that this should be the core of the PR efforts. nothing will sell XC like its anonymity. which is the first and only that really carrys on with satoshis vision on all fronts while bringing full privacy.

this will sell XC and i don't see the point in waiting forever to communicate not to experts but in simple words what is getting worked on here. you do the same with blocknet. the PR was easy to understand compared to the mesh net ones. it has an emotional catch phrase with "internet of blockchains". we need that for XCs privacy tec too. like "privacy the Satoshi way" but thats probably to abstract but somthing like that.

i love the blocknet but it is to new to be the driving force here.

people will have to learn that the blocknet is beneficial for xc by seeing first hand. You can repeat yourself millions of times the next weeks it won't matter.

and please never use "enough said" again it sounds super arrogant even not intended.

I apologise for coming across as arrogant with the words "enough said".

It wasn't my intention. I simply wished to assert that I think a strong case for a given point is clear.

Then on the topic of marketing, remember we're in agreement about the significance of XC's privacy tech, and also in agreement that it should be marketed in normal non-technical language.

The consumer-marketing will begin when we have consumer products. It does not make sense to do so earlier than this, because people would just be attracted to something they can't use.

yeah we are 100% on the same page regarding the consumer marketing then. i was under the false impression that the consumer marketing efforts will be more centred around the chat then the pricacy tech but if the private tx model of XC will experience the same non technical marketing thats exactly what i was hoping for.

[policymaker]

Damn it I didnt catch the 70k price, I need more FIAT right now!!!

Because of the dump and general BTC crash (u get what I mean, even maybe poorly phrased), I believe its more than OK to convert FIAT to XC right now

Yes this is one whopper of a smart buyer's market.

BTC is largely confirmed (but not completely yet) to have commenced wave 5 of a large-scale 5-wave uptrend.

XC is at a low price on the verge of releasing mobile apps.

Where can I read/study about the "wave", or is it a purely personal estimate?

[synechist]

Hey, let's take a moment to get some perspective. Sometimes fudders can make it seem like XC is somehow lacking or in trouble, but that's a pure illusion.


- XC's private payments and (non-group) XChat are working beautifully.


- Nothing even remotely compares to XC's anon tech.


- We're on the verge of XC Mobile!

i have said for weeks now that this should be the core of the PR efforts. nothing will sell XC like its anonymity. which is the first and only that really carrys on with satoshis vision on all fronts while bringing full privacy.

this will sell XC and i don't see the point in waiting forever to communicate not to experts but in simple words what is getting worked on here. you do the same with blocknet. the PR was easy to understand compared to the mesh net ones. it has an emotional catch phrase with "internet of blockchains". we need that for XCs privacy tec too. like "privacy the Satoshi way" but thats probably to abstract but somthing like that.

i love the blocknet but it is to new to be the driving force here.

people will have to learn that the blocknet is beneficial for xc by seeing first hand. You can repeat yourself millions of times the next weeks it won't matter.

and please never use "enough said" again it sounds super arrogant even not intended.

I apologise for coming across as arrogant with the words "enough said".

It wasn't my intention. I simply wished to assert that I think a strong case for a given point is clear.

Then on the topic of marketing, remember we're in agreement about the significance of XC's privacy tech, and also in agreement that it should be marketed in normal non-technical language.

The consumer-marketing will begin when we have consumer products. It does not make sense to do so earlier than this, because people would just be attracted to something they can't use.

yeah we are 100% on the same page regarding the consumer marketing then. i was under the false impression that the consumer marketing efforts will be more centred around the chat then the pricacy tech but if the private tx model of XC will experience the same non technical marketing thats exactly what i was hoping for.

Aha :-). Yes there's a growing popular awareness of the need for privacy tech. We're going to tap into that big time.

[synechist]

Damn it I didnt catch the 70k price, I need more FIAT right now!!!

Because of the dump and general BTC crash (u get what I mean, even maybe poorly phrased), I believe its more than OK to convert FIAT to XC right now

Yes this is one whopper of a smart buyer's market.

BTC is largely confirmed (but not completely yet) to have commenced wave 5 of a large-scale 5-wave uptrend.

XC is at a low price on the verge of releasing mobile apps.

Where can I read/study about the "wave", or is it a purely personal estimate?

There's an extended Elliot Wave-based analysis of Bitcoin by Venzen Khaosan at CCN, in the form of daily market analysis articles.

[hoertest]

Aha :-). Yes there's a growing popular awareness of the need for privacy tech. We're going to tap into that big time.

If i am right in the assumption that XC is the only anon concept that that serves as a continuance of bitcoins philosophy of decentralisation without any of the drawbacks like bloat. on chain anonymity. semi centralisation we should try to put that in an emotional appaeling catchphrase like you did with "internet of blockchains". community brainstorm anyone?

people need to understand that if they wanna privatice their finances without giving up on bitcoins principles XC is the place to be.

[synechist]

Aha :-). Yes there's a growing popular awareness of the need for privacy tech. We're going to tap into that big time.

If i am right in the assumption that XC is the only anon concept that that serves as a continuance of bitcoins philosophy of decentralisation without any of the drawbacks like bloat. on chain anonymity. semi centralisation we should try to put that in an emotional appaeling catchphrase like you did with "internet of blockchains". community brainstorm anyone?

people need to understand that if they wanna privatice their finances without giving up on bitcoins principles XC is the place to be.

Yes if I'm not mistaken XC is the only privacy tech that is fully distributed and doesn't bloat.

Friendly ways of capturing this? Great idea!

Let's throw out suggestions folks.

[cryptico]

something like satoshi's dream fulfilled was really good for as suggested by hoertest but maybe is shooting to high?

don't know..

[McHammer]

wont buy blocknet ...
it sucks they make a new product ...
do they need money because xc does not get pumped?

[policymaker]

Aha :-). Yes there's a growing popular awareness of the need for privacy tech. We're going to tap into that big time.

If i am right in the assumption that XC is the only anon concept that that serves as a continuance of bitcoins philosophy of decentralisation without any of the drawbacks like bloat. on chain anonymity. semi centralisation we should try to put that in an emotional appaeling catchphrase like you did with "internet of blockchains". community brainstorm anyone?

people need to understand that if they wanna privatice their finances without giving up on bitcoins principles XC is the place to be.

Yes if I'm not mistaken XC is the only privacy tech that is fully distributed and doesn't bloat.

Friendly ways of capturing this? Great idea!

Let's throw out suggestions folks.

Thanx for the link, love reading that.


Since we r back on the privacy subject, I do think as well that there should be a HUGE promo on the private and public code reviews/audits. Dan focusing on ironing out any code bugs and then giving the BTC bounty to the public, causing huge commotion in the community and general high tech industry, ending the ANON FUD once and for all. Just expressing your average small holder. Mobile wallets, group chatting, everything col and useful, but in the end I believe that if the main code is proved to be private by experts and mass opinion alike, the sky is the limit.

That's what intrigued me in XC from the start anyway: Dan didnt have a fake account, he claimed to work on true privacy for some time now, and last but not least, instead of being in the forums 24/7 like most scam devs, he actually replied like a couple of times each every other day... MEANING HE WAS ACTUALLY WORKING.

[synechist]

wont buy blocknet ...
it sucks they make a new product ...
do they need money because xc does not get pumped?

No, the Blocknet's funds are not XC funds. XC does not get to spend the Blocknet's funds.

Also XC is not responsible for coding the Blocknet, so we haven't "made a new product." They're separate projects.

So you should buy XC and also buy Blocknet tokens.

[cryptico]

Exactly what about the Public code reviews that were announced? can you give us more info on those please?

[synechist]

Aha :-). Yes there's a growing popular awareness of the need for privacy tech. We're going to tap into that big time.

If i am right in the assumption that XC is the only anon concept that that serves as a continuance of bitcoins philosophy of decentralisation without any of the drawbacks like bloat. on chain anonymity. semi centralisation we should try to put that in an emotional appaeling catchphrase like you did with "internet of blockchains". community brainstorm anyone?

people need to understand that if they wanna privatice their finances without giving up on bitcoins principles XC is the place to be.

Yes if I'm not mistaken XC is the only privacy tech that is fully distributed and doesn't bloat.

Friendly ways of capturing this? Great idea!

Let's throw out suggestions folks.

Hmm... privacy... distributed... on your mobile phone... payments and messaging...

- Satoshi, Snowden, WikiLeaks, celebrity phone hacks, data mining, government spying...

How about something like "privacy for the people"?

"true privacy is here"

"privacy is now mobile"

"authority-free" payments/chat/cloud/whatever

[Sabretooth]

Aha :-). Yes there's a growing popular awareness of the need for privacy tech. We're going to tap into that big time.

If i am right in the assumption that XC is the only anon concept that that serves as a continuance of bitcoins philosophy of decentralisation without any of the drawbacks like bloat. on chain anonymity. semi centralisation we should try to put that in an emotional appaeling catchphrase like you did with "internet of blockchains". community brainstorm anyone?

people need to understand that if they wanna privatice their finances without giving up on bitcoins principles XC is the place to be.

Yes if I'm not mistaken XC is the only privacy tech that is fully distributed and doesn't bloat.

Friendly ways of capturing this? Great idea!

Let's throw out suggestions folks.

What about a simple table with coin privacy features down the rows, coins (XC, BTC, DRK etc) across the top, and simple ticks for each box ticked by each coin.  One of the coins could be the Satoshi dream coin.