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June 14, 2014, 01:19:27 AM
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wow seems really really easy

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June 14, 2014, 01:25:20 AM
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Wait, did you solve the challenge?

That's my account.

I show people what is listaddressgroupings and change address.
How does it relate.

How to read block explorer.



By the way, I am not interrested.



you can't just say you no longer interested, people would view you as dishonest, scum, a coward or have no honor. you have tried to answered on every other little bit challenges. if you can't answer or can't no longer trace the transaction please say so.


I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.


So, I am not interrested.
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June 14, 2014, 01:26:26 AM
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lol@xc

lol what

it's full nynomyous multipath paradigm protocol with blockchain2.0

lol

Its a multi-path warp vortex coin moving platform coupled character convergence paradigm with bleeding edge self-motivated dynamic enterprise grade trust learning system which will be housed in blockchain 2.0

All developed in 4 weeks. All your base belong to us.  Roll Eyes
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June 14, 2014, 01:36:35 AM
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I've just completed a test on the multi-path system

Receivers Address --->>>>> XXcJEFKxziaH8trY6DruHx9ap39rnDJbK7 - 0.03 XC's


I am going to put a password zip file online with the details


ATSECURE



it's only fair if you already upload detail somewhere with timestamp before anyone post their answer then release the detail next day. if you don't release the detail then chance the answer is correct but if no answer then chaplin can't find the way to track it.

The file has been uploaded.. And after 24 hours I will release the location and by Sunday the password if nobody has submitted the address


Wait, did you solve the challenge?

That's my account.

I show people what is listaddressgroupings and change address.
How does it relate.

How to read block explorer.



By the way, I am not interrested.





you can't just say you no longer interested, people would view you as dishonest, scum, a coward or have no honor. you have tried to answered on every other little bit challenges. if you can't answer or can't no longer trace the transaction please say so.


I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.


So, I am not interrested.
atcsecure will reveal the hard link / answer /detail as i quoted atcsecure above. if we don't get answer from you then you must of little coward bitch that you is. you still have honor if you answer now that you can't no longer trace the transaction. if you don't take the challenge then, yes, you little coward bitch.

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June 14, 2014, 01:47:26 AM
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I've just completed a test on the multi-path system

Receivers Address --->>>>> XXcJEFKxziaH8trY6DruHx9ap39rnDJbK7 - 0.03 XC's


I am going to put a password zip file online with the details


ATSECURE



it's only fair if you already upload detail somewhere with timestamp before anyone post their answer then release the detail next day. if you don't release the detail then chance the answer is correct but if no answer then chaplin can't find the way to track it.

The file has been uploaded.. And after 24 hours I will release the location and by Sunday the password if nobody has submitted the address


Wait, did you solve the challenge?

That's my account.

I show people what is listaddressgroupings and change address.
How does it relate.

How to read block explorer.



By the way, I am not interrested.





you can't just say you no longer interested, people would view you as dishonest, scum, a coward or have no honor. you have tried to answered on every other little bit challenges. if you can't answer or can't no longer trace the transaction please say so.


I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.


So, I am not interrested.
atcsecure will reveal the hard link / answer /detail as i quoted atcsecure above. if we don't get answer from you then you must of little coward bitch that you is. you still have honor if you answer now that you can't no longer trace the transaction. if you don't take the challenge then, yes, you little coward bitch.

Well, do it yourself. It's your coin.


Answer this first.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.msg7270701#msg7270701

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June 14, 2014, 01:49:57 AM
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I've just completed a test on the multi-path system

Receivers Address --->>>>> XXcJEFKxziaH8trY6DruHx9ap39rnDJbK7 - 0.03 XC's


I am going to put a password zip file online with the details


ATSECURE



it's only fair if you already upload detail somewhere with timestamp before anyone post their answer then release the detail next day. if you don't release the detail then chance the answer is correct but if no answer then chaplin can't find the way to track it.

The file has been uploaded.. And after 24 hours I will release the location and by Sunday the password if nobody has submitted the address


Wait, did you solve the challenge?

That's my account.

I show people what is listaddressgroupings and change address.
How does it relate.

How to read block explorer.



By the way, I am not interrested.





you can't just say you no longer interested, people would view you as dishonest, scum, a coward or have no honor. you have tried to answered on every other little bit challenges. if you can't answer or can't no longer trace the transaction please say so.


I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.


So, I am not interrested.
atcsecure will reveal the hard link / answer /detail as i quoted atcsecure above. if we don't get answer from you then you must of little coward bitch that you is. you still have honor if you answer now that you can't no longer trace the transaction. if you don't take the challenge then, yes, you little coward bitch.

Well, do it yourself. It's your coin.


Answer this first.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.msg7270701#msg7270701


you little whore. that is single path and old challenge.

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June 14, 2014, 01:53:24 AM
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you little whore. that is single path and old challenge.

What did he say ?

"There is no hard link"


Now it's XC community turn.

Do analysis, make your coin strong, better.
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June 14, 2014, 01:56:29 AM
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I've just completed a test on the multi-path system

Receivers Address --->>>>> XXcJEFKxziaH8trY6DruHx9ap39rnDJbK7 - 0.03 XC's


I am going to put a password zip file online with the details


ATSECURE



it's only fair if you already upload detail somewhere with timestamp before anyone post their answer then release the detail next day. if you don't release the detail then chance the answer is correct but if no answer then chaplin can't find the way to track it.

The file has been uploaded.. And after 24 hours I will release the location and by Sunday the password if nobody has submitted the address


Wait, did you solve the challenge?

That's my account.

I show people what is listaddressgroupings and change address.
How does it relate.

How to read block explorer.



By the way, I am not interrested.





you can't just say you no longer interested, people would view you as dishonest, scum, a coward or have no honor. you have tried to answered on every other little bit challenges. if you can't answer or can't no longer trace the transaction please say so.


I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.


So, I am not interrested.
atcsecure will reveal the hard link / answer /detail as i quoted atcsecure above. if we don't get answer from you then you must of little coward bitch that you is. you still have honor if you answer now that you can't no longer trace the transaction. if you don't take the challenge then, yes, you little coward bitch.

Well, do it yourself. It's your coin.


Answer this first.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631052.msg7270701#msg7270701


you little whore. that is single path and old challenge.

This is the definition of "Grasping at straws".  Smiley

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June 14, 2014, 02:00:52 AM
Last edit: June 14, 2014, 03:20:20 AM by benthach
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you little whore. that is single path and old challenge.

What did he say ?

"There is no hard link"


Now it's XC community turn.

Do analysis, make your coin strong, better.
post us your answer of sender address or addresses if wallet have more than one addresses. let us judge, you and XC dev. if anyone refused to reveal the answer then the person is a dishonest coward.

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Last edit: June 14, 2014, 02:16:54 AM by chaeplin
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Ref :

So I notice our friend Chaeplin, is doing a lot of talking in the other XC topic and his criticisms fall into two categories below which I respond to here:

1. Xnodes could in theory "steal" XC.

Answer: My understanding is that Rev 2 will have a trust learning algorithm and the dev has said coins cannot be stolen. However if we look at DRK, I believe they use signatures which removes the incentive for mixer nodes to steal the mixed coins. Why don't we also do that ON TOP of the trust learning algorithm? Then we have the best of both and that completely destroys the argument.

2. XC transfer is not anonymous and can be linked

Answer: Dev has an open challenge right now that hasn't been solved yet, based on the new multi-path protocol. I'm confident in the devs ability. I would also be interested to see whether Chaeplins methods can be applied to DRK?


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1. Xnodes could in theory "steal" XC.

Answer: My understanding is that Rev 2 will have a trust learning algorithm and the dev has said coins cannot be stolen. However if we look at DRK, I believe they use signatures which removes the incentive for mixer nodes to steal the mixed coins. Why don't we also do that ON TOP of the trust learning algorithm? Then we have the best of both and that completely destroys the argument.

Use signatures, you don't need any 'trust learning algorithm' at first place.

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2. XC transfer is not anonymous and can be linked

Answer: Dev has an open challenge right now that hasn't been solved yet, based on the new multi-path protocol. I'm confident in the devs ability. I would also be interested to see whether Chaeplins methods can be applied to DRK?

In RC3, might be possible on changes, not on payment.
In RC4, My method will be useless on both changes and payment.

The problems addressed in this were handled hundreds of pages ago. Darksend isn't finished yet and was never promised to be 100% anonymous unless you use great care. Plus RC4 will have great improvements to the anonymity offered.




What a talented troll.



What is signatures of mr_random ?

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MRO ~ 100% anonymous working coin ~ Memory hard ASIC resistant algorithm
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June 14, 2014, 02:29:28 AM
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My intentions on Unmoderated XC thread:

The right of privacy.
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June 14, 2014, 04:28:50 AM
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My intentions on Unmoderated XC thread:

The right of privacy.


Haha owned this thread in one sentence. Anyonymity. What anonymity. Privacy at best.
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June 14, 2014, 04:36:24 AM
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I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.

So, I am not interrested.
I think you were able to link them, or some of them, but I guess it depends what a "hard link" is. That term is not necessarily clear.
I think he wanted "proof" which would be able to be used even with many more transaction.

Do you think your method would have worked with thousands of different transactions rather than a smaller number, even if you had an analysing tool?
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June 14, 2014, 04:42:52 AM
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In RC3, might be possible on changes, not on payment.
In RC4, My method will be useless on both changes and payment.
Excuse my ignoarnce but what is RC3 and RC4?
Thanks again...you are a great help
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June 14, 2014, 05:38:01 AM
Last edit: June 14, 2014, 05:59:16 AM by chaeplin
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I am not interrested in Dev's challenge.

Dev has refused to acknowledge the existence of hard link.

So, I am not interrested.
I think you were able to link them, or some of them, but I guess it depends what a "hard link" is. That term is not necessarily clear.
I think he wanted "proof" which would be able to be used even with many more transaction.

Do you think your method would have worked with thousands of different transactions rather than a smaller number, even if you had an analysing tool?

Have you heard satoshi spamming ?
I have thouht it's kind of mapping, creating hard link by spent.

Code:
As I write this people with unknown motivations are raining down tiny little payments on old addresses, 
presumably in an effort to get wallets to consume them and create evidence of common address ownership.


It's happening in Bitcoin.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279249.0



Example.
Anyone heard about Satoshi spamming ?


https://blockchain.info/tx/31ec9a1cea9804c4f0321b4486261af8586f0c930edf0b4fd1f16b06ec583492
https://blockchain.info/tx/31ec9a1cea9804c4f0321b4486261af8586f0c930edf0b4fd1f16b06ec583492?show_adv=true

What for ? Just Advertising ?


I would call it as mapping.
 

1GmFQ13XAfDyMY4QGbXeFgbEWVJ9q5NatE

-->

http://blockr.io/tx/info/b8d06ba404ce860e42fc9e8c37960fd1e31e17941a2750d1556f094737291731

--> 16FgQXGzSLRtdwuwCN7mcaPUtbJ6JFTkVw

Code:
18itQ7vv83AJo7831mwYYkThReKPJtp9mp -0.00243328
1KVe3Ys4aUgnstigRXvk1oEcnLmUBPocvM -0.7747437
1PBm4GtvLT7XVjQtQWuSQoDbBcBQPG5kB2 -87.2034174
1HqnT7EY6JdAm6pQkhp1rMdzvSREFvDV1W -15.42570118
1BSFnvBZzDACnVcs3PkASnA8ky9wCoiJV7 -1e-8
13vuxnEeFaJ8y24KmFYAy1oH58sY8crqje -1e-8
1KkAEQEFZZ6JGaP5eCMnB4geq69D2YXy7j -1e-8
19hdrZw5zHaizHprx84K9ys9aMB2T7QUdH -1e-8
1Ejw88MT7taf5EmTUWBH5nZAkhLrkfHQHY -1e-8
18itQ7vv83AJo7831mwYYkThReKPJtp9mp -1e-8
18GFvPsuYTHTJPfmtkgZVq94SKCEQjdUGZ -1e-8
19WGRTCW8kEfGYjG6XjPu52iUmHnzYA9or -1e-8
1KpxTZ7e9jSBYiFcXxjquYzzqTamqeA1n6 -1e-8
18dZjEboXm9sqmN7ChHQURJRCzCJZ5SN5L -1e-8
18quFyqjJt5qszjgrmNFsphy12U3CHQ7pZ -1e-8
1QJW1EsuXGGshWLTy6WUrS4MHpttYNiAi1 -1e-8
1Aejtjs142HcKJ9GT5nz81xZifUvgCwe9k -1e-8
1FzgLHNoPxazVYSbdezT6LKKGQ7iPRZNi2 -1e-8
1GLB6NTKP6YePC2kY3gyL4PbN9W9QMY81h -1e-8
1GzXvYvF3WicXNk7LjsR8XmM3mC9PD59tf -1e-8
1GmFQ13XAfDyMY4QGbXeFgbEWVJ9q5NatE -1e-8
1PfssmiZFPjg6YpQfKmxCmTVSdCdh386fy -1e-8
1DdUJwtE1kHkEiNc4W98avbfDBPFo4VcoP -1e-8
12sv6DivTjRooxcLBJDp8gvgzbgkzpM3R1 -1e-8
1EDnGiKS9RYTgoXcakyhbKYjrD1EPRVxBg -1e-8
1H8sVSrsxrKUT5282sZAuMcLnUmDAxAXTi -1e-8
1L5vhnbomi8BhMyWPxSSfMCixHvs7c1gbQ -1e-8
15vruUpv1qYSt9D8pDRwH7RsY4GRF925Ze -1e-8

a input(meaning 1 wallet) to 16FgQXGzSLRtdwuwCN7mcaPUtbJ6JFTkVw 103.4062958

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June 14, 2014, 05:39:09 AM
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In RC3, might be possible on changes, not on payment.
In RC4, My method will be useless on both changes and payment.
Excuse my ignoarnce but what is RC3 and RC4?
Thanks again...you are a great help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle

Grin
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June 14, 2014, 07:43:12 AM
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In RC3, might be possible on changes, not on payment.
In RC4, My method will be useless on both changes and payment.
Excuse my ignoarnce but what is RC3 and RC4?
Thanks again...you are a great help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle

Grin
Why will you method be useless by then?
And thanks again
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June 14, 2014, 07:56:05 AM
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In RC3, might be possible on changes, not on payment.
In RC4, My method will be useless on both changes and payment.
Excuse my ignoarnce but what is RC3 and RC4?
Thanks again...you are a great help

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle

Grin
Why will you method be useless by then?
And thanks again


Currently, Payments are free from linking.
In RC4, changes will be free from linking.
The problems addressed in this were handled hundreds of pages ago.
Darksend isn't finished yet and was never promised to be 100% anonymous unless you use great care.
Plus RC4 will have great improvements to the anonymity offered.
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June 14, 2014, 08:34:24 AM
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I tought this thread was called Unmoderated XC.. could we change the name to DRK promo thread?
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I tought this thread was called Unmoderated XC.. could we change the name to DRK promo thread?

lets change it to "XC ridiculous anonymous claims" Grin

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