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Author Topic: [ANN] sgminer v5 - optimized X11/X13/NeoScrypt/Lyra2RE/etc. kernel-switch miner  (Read 877797 times)
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July 20, 2015, 10:49:46 AM
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I don't think so, no.

Is it ok for x11 on amd 7950?


Struggling to get anywhere near this speed for a 7950, and i'm using an 280X. How?

we get about that for a 280x also ...

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MSI R7950 TF3 is 6.25M steady. at 1050/1250
XFX 7950 is 5.75 at 950/1250
280Xes are 7 to 7.5 depending on brand/clocks

On Wolfs bins I only get 6.5Mhs for a 280X(1100/1500), so the bin you're using are definitely faster. Although the bins are Linux versions?
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July 20, 2015, 11:51:51 AM
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I don't think so, no.

Is it ok for x11 on amd 7950?


Struggling to get anywhere near this speed for a 7950, and i'm using an 280X. How?

we get about that for a 280x also ...

#crysx

MSI R7950 TF3 is 6.25M steady. at 1050/1250
XFX 7950 is 5.75 at 950/1250
280Xes are 7 to 7.5 depending on brand/clocks

On Wolfs bins I only get 6.5Mhs for a 280X(1100/1500), so the bin you're using are definitely faster. Although the bins are Linux versions?

thats what i meant ...

we get that same speed using wolfs bins on gigabyte 280x / 7970 oc cards - with the same oc clocks ... any higher and the cards become unstable ...

and yes - they are under linux - fedora 19 x64 ... with compiled sgminer-dev 5.1.1-17-g6666 ...

this is why i would be interested to see how those 'other' bins work under linux - and how much of a hashrate increase ( if any ) in linux ...

#crysx

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July 20, 2015, 01:27:27 PM
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I don't think so, no.

Is it ok for x11 on amd 7950?


Struggling to get anywhere near this speed for a 7950, and i'm using an 280X. How?

we get about that for a 280x also ...

#crysx

MSI R7950 TF3 is 6.25M steady. at 1050/1250
XFX 7950 is 5.75 at 950/1250
280Xes are 7 to 7.5 depending on brand/clocks

On Wolfs bins I only get 6.5Mhs for a 280X(1100/1500), so the bin you're using are definitely faster. Although the bins are Linux versions?

AFAIK it (might) matter if the bins are for x64 or x32. It shouldn't make difference for linux/win.
Also the sgminer version should be close enough (I guess). 5.1.1 should be alright.
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July 20, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
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You need the latest drivers though.. I tried to rename a tahiti bin to hawaii with 14.6 rc3 and it didn't work.
But with the latest driver 15.6 (beta) it worked. I think AMD has added a fix so it will recompile the bin files to the correct architecture if wrong. but I am not sure..

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July 20, 2015, 01:38:32 PM
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Linux with 14.9 drivers - renaming worked
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July 20, 2015, 02:26:01 PM
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coinmine.pl -30% hashrate on new bins
Also R9 290 get HW on 14.9 driver
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July 20, 2015, 03:18:18 PM
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I don't think so, no.

Is it ok for x11 on amd 7950?


Struggling to get anywhere near this speed for a 7950, and i'm using an 280X. How?

we get about that for a 280x also ...

#crysx

MSI R7950 TF3 is 6.25M steady. at 1050/1250
XFX 7950 is 5.75 at 950/1250
280Xes are 7 to 7.5 depending on brand/clocks

On Wolfs bins I only get 6.5Mhs for a 280X(1100/1500), so the bin you're using are definitely faster. Although the bins are Linux versions?

thats what i meant ...

we get that same speed using wolfs bins on gigabyte 280x / 7970 oc cards - with the same oc clocks ... any higher and the cards become unstable ...

and yes - they are under linux - fedora 19 x64 ... with compiled sgminer-dev 5.1.1-17-g6666 ...

this is why i would be interested to see how those 'other' bins work under linux - and how much of a hashrate increase ( if any ) in linux ...

#crysx

I'll check back here if you've tested, although my rig is set up in windows 7, so hopefully there can be some bin for that eventually.
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July 20, 2015, 03:21:12 PM
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coinmine.pl -30% hashrate on new bins
Also R9 290 get HW on 14.9 driver

is that NEGATIVE 30% or dash (-)30%? Cheesy
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July 20, 2015, 03:25:59 PM
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For those with Fury cards, i have compiled a Fiji bin for X11 doing 11+Mhz,
post regarding this can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1116027.msg11880191#msg11880191

Stock speed when compiling with the stock kernel is around 6.5 Mhz
When renaming the Hawaii binary from wolf you'll hit around 8.5 Mhz.

So this is a good improvement for now Smiley

link to bin.
http://s000.tinyupload.com/?file_id=00265615109400492534


This is my own mod, not as fast as the russian one or Wolf his mod.
When compiling on a 290x i hit 7.7 Mhz, on wolf his binaries i hit 9.5 Mhz

But there aren't any Fiji binaries out there so that's why i'm sharing Smiley


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July 20, 2015, 03:31:42 PM
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I don't think so, no.

Is it ok for x11 on amd 7950?


Struggling to get anywhere near this speed for a 7950, and i'm using an 280X. How?

we get about that for a 280x also ...

#crysx

MSI R7950 TF3 is 6.25M steady. at 1050/1250
XFX 7950 is 5.75 at 950/1250
280Xes are 7 to 7.5 depending on brand/clocks

On Wolfs bins I only get 6.5Mhs for a 280X(1100/1500), so the bin you're using are definitely faster. Although the bins are Linux versions?

thats what i meant ...

we get that same speed using wolfs bins on gigabyte 280x / 7970 oc cards - with the same oc clocks ... any higher and the cards become unstable ...

and yes - they are under linux - fedora 19 x64 ... with compiled sgminer-dev 5.1.1-17-g6666 ...

this is why i would be interested to see how those 'other' bins work under linux - and how much of a hashrate increase ( if any ) in linux ...

#crysx

I'll check back here if you've tested, although my rig is set up in windows 7, so hopefully there can be some bin for that eventually.

The bins do work on windows 7.  The same bins can work on linux or windows.  Reference Wolf0's instructions here.  https://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/2o1yoz/rewritten_x11_binaries/    There is no place where it says if you are under linux do this and if you are under windows do this..

From that link you would download wolf0's I8 bins and rename them to your system which may be is probably I4.  Wolf0 used to make a 64bit version of sgminer for windows and I'm pretty sure those would produce I8 bins.


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July 20, 2015, 03:36:19 PM
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I don't think so, no.

Is it ok for x11 on amd 7950?


Struggling to get anywhere near this speed for a 7950, and i'm using an 280X. How?

we get about that for a 280x also ...

#crysx

MSI R7950 TF3 is 6.25M steady. at 1050/1250
XFX 7950 is 5.75 at 950/1250
280Xes are 7 to 7.5 depending on brand/clocks

On Wolfs bins I only get 6.5Mhs for a 280X(1100/1500), so the bin you're using are definitely faster. Although the bins are Linux versions?

thats what i meant ...

we get that same speed using wolfs bins on gigabyte 280x / 7970 oc cards - with the same oc clocks ... any higher and the cards become unstable ...

and yes - they are under linux - fedora 19 x64 ... with compiled sgminer-dev 5.1.1-17-g6666 ...

this is why i would be interested to see how those 'other' bins work under linux - and how much of a hashrate increase ( if any ) in linux ...

#crysx

I'll check back here if you've tested, although my rig is set up in windows 7, so hopefully there can be some bin for that eventually.

The bins do work on windows 7.  The same bins can work on linux or windows.  Reference Wolf0's instructions here.  https://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/2o1yoz/rewritten_x11_binaries/    There is no place where it says if you are under linux do this and if you are under windows do this..

From that link you would download wolf0's I8 bins and rename them to your system which may be is probably I4 or I8.  Wolf0 used to make a 64bit version of sgminer for windows and I'm pretty sure those would produce I8 bins.



Wolf his bins work on both platforms. That's a fact.

I haven't tried the russian ones. I'm not going to because they're compiled on a windows system. And if there's anything else modded besided the .cl files, it won't work on your sgminer version.
Wolf his will work because there are no modifications done outside the .cl files.

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July 20, 2015, 03:42:21 PM
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I don't think so, no.

Is it ok for x11 on amd 7950?


Struggling to get anywhere near this speed for a 7950, and i'm using an 280X. How?

we get about that for a 280x also ...

#crysx

MSI R7950 TF3 is 6.25M steady. at 1050/1250
XFX 7950 is 5.75 at 950/1250
280Xes are 7 to 7.5 depending on brand/clocks

On Wolfs bins I only get 6.5Mhs for a 280X(1100/1500), so the bin you're using are definitely faster. Although the bins are Linux versions?

thats what i meant ...

we get that same speed using wolfs bins on gigabyte 280x / 7970 oc cards - with the same oc clocks ... any higher and the cards become unstable ...

and yes - they are under linux - fedora 19 x64 ... with compiled sgminer-dev 5.1.1-17-g6666 ...

this is why i would be interested to see how those 'other' bins work under linux - and how much of a hashrate increase ( if any ) in linux ...

#crysx

I'll check back here if you've tested, although my rig is set up in windows 7, so hopefully there can be some bin for that eventually.

The bins do work on windows 7.  The same bins can work on linux or windows.  Reference Wolf0's instructions here.  https://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/comments/2o1yoz/rewritten_x11_binaries/    There is no place where it says if you are under linux do this and if you are under windows do this..

From that link you would download wolf0's I8 bins and rename them to your system which may be is probably I4 or I8.  Wolf0 used to make a 64bit version of sgminer for windows and I'm pretty sure those would produce I8 bins.



Wolf his bins work on both platforms. That's a fact.

I haven't tried the russian ones. I'm not going to because they're compiled on a windows system. And if there's anything else modded besided the .cl files, it won't work on your sgminer version.
Wolf his will work because there are no modifications done outside the .cl files.

Good point.  iirc when I was following the russian thread I think the dev (kachur?) mentioned that he modified other files.  I was only paying attention to quark at that time. 

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July 20, 2015, 05:55:15 PM
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kachur's quark and qubit bins work only with his own modified sgminer.
His x11 bin works with git-compiled sgminer-master 5.1.1 (32bit, my own compile just for fun) without a problem.
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July 20, 2015, 07:55:38 PM
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Eliovp, Wolf0, why you share bins, but not share kernel?
I don`t understand. Please, explain.
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July 20, 2015, 09:21:24 PM
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Eliovp, Wolf0, why you share bins, but not share kernel?
I don`t understand. Please, explain.
To hide optimization tricks from competing mining kernel developers. Or to compile with good driver version and allow users to run the kernel without worrying about it. Or to pack everything into single exe file.

Of course I gave you bad advice. Good one is way out of your price range.
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July 20, 2015, 09:35:35 PM
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To hide optimization tricks from competing mining kernel developers.
So, all this bins have  ~same hashrate.
Close source... and who win?
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July 20, 2015, 09:54:53 PM
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To hide optimization tricks from competing mining kernel developers.
So, all thisknown to general public bins have  ~same hashrate.
Close source... and who win?
I don't have X11 kernel, didn't disassemble those kernels, and sometime all the optimization work for X11 have to be re-done from scratch - without even reading cl sources from other people. Seems Dash users are the winners in this situation. Or may be big farms with private kernels. Wink


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July 20, 2015, 10:48:46 PM
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Eliovp, Wolf0, why you share bins, but not share kernel?
I don`t understand. Please, explain.
To hide optimization tricks from competing mining kernel developers. Correct Or to compile with good driver version and allow users to run the kernel without worrying about it. Somehow also correct. Or to pack everything into single exe file. I don't compile for Windows. Wolf's an expert at that. + you can run the fiji binary i shared on a windows compiled sgminer without any issues. As long as there's nothing else modded than the .cl file everything will run smoothly.


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July 21, 2015, 01:06:11 AM
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To hide optimization tricks from competing mining kernel developers.
So, all thisknown to general public bins have  ~same hashrate.
Close source... and who win?
I don't have X11 kernel, didn't disassemble those kernels, and sometime all the optimization work for X11 have to be re-done from scratch - without even reading cl sources from other people. Seems Dash users are the winners in this situation. Or may be big farms with private kernels. Wink



will be testing in the next 24-48 hours with this ...

too much on my plate at the moment - with travel - lawyers - etc ...

seems that the confusion here is not that wolfs bins work or not under linux or windows ...

that is NOT the question or the issue ...

it is whether the 'russian' bins that are being distributed work under linux and windows - or not ...

i call them the 'russian' bins to differentiate them from wolfs bins ... they may not have originated from the the russian miners ...

but as i understand it - they ARE the russian dev 'kachur' bins - and he has stated that there is more than just bins that were changed ... you actually need his miner as well ...

i KNOW wolfs bins work - we have them working in linux - and other people have them working in widows ...

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July 21, 2015, 07:40:29 PM
Last edit: July 21, 2015, 07:52:36 PM by sp_
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Just tested the kachur bins. I get an impressive 7.5 mhash on the gigabyte windforce r9 280x on factory clocks. This is around 1MHASH bether than the wolf0's bin. I also use his build of sgminer(exe) and the latest 15.6 beta driver.

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