[ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA

[Hiraga]

[allyouracid]

Where is the one market ?

There.Is.No.Such.Thing.
There wasn't, there hasn't been, there isn't, there won't be and there won't have been anything called "OneMarket".

Or, to say it with some altered form of community's members' words: mark my words and you'll cry later.
Finally, I turned into a cynicist. Hope this condition passes as time goes by.

[BTCgraphics]

lol call me stupid but i'm still buying on the dips.

I think it's worth the risk, *shoulder shrug*

If yall are right, you get to tell me "i told you so" by the end of the week.

The majority of my cloak was purchased on "06/12/2014 16:28:09" according to my bittrex history, so i guess you can call me a bagholder

[Pala_00]

[allyouracid]

lol call me stupid but i'm still buying on the dips.

I think it's worth the risk, *shoulder shrug*

If yall are right, you get to tell me "i told you so" by the end of the week.

The majority of my cloak was purchased on "06/12/2014 16:28:09" according to my bittrex history, so i guess you can call me a bagholder

I wish you best of luck. Hope it works out for you and I also hope you're really thick-skinned.

[k0rpa]

still hodling strong here as well ....

[BTCgraphics]

Where is the one market ?

There.Is.No.Such.Thing.
There wasn't, there hasn't been, there isn't, there won't be and there won't have been anything called "OneMarket".

Or, to say it with some altered form of community's members' words: mark my words and you'll cry later.
Finally, I turned into a cynicist. Hope this condition passes as time goes by.

Alty said onemarket will be tested on testnet soon. It was supposed to be today, A simple delay means "there was never a OneMarket" to some.

I think it is just a delay, very common in the programming world.

But you can draw your own conclusions.

[tempus]

Where is the one market ?

There.Is.No.Such.Thing.
There wasn't, there hasn't been, there isn't, there won't be and there won't have been anything called "OneMarket".

Or, to say it with some altered form of community's members' words: mark my words and you'll cry later.
Finally, I turned into a cynicist. Hope this condition passes as time goes by.

Alty said onemarket will be tested on testnet soon. It was supposed to be today, A simple delay means "there was never a OneMarket" to some.

I think it is just a delay, very common in the programming world.

But you can draw your own conclusions.

I personally have no big problems with delays. With the focus on quality delays are sometimes just necessary. But: The "communication" sucks. It's getting hard to defend how they are acting. 

[merc84]

Alty ‏@CryptoPioneer  Sep 7
@ramikawach #Bittrex get ready for a surge in #Cloak #Cloakcoin volume in the next week or so!

But to be fair, maybe he was talking about SELL volume. 
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Who can believe that alty would not have been asking the lead dev about progress on sunday when he tweeted this, i feel dirty and used

[LiberyOrDeath]

Alty ‏@CryptoPioneer  Sep 7
@ramikawach #Bittrex get ready for a surge in #Cloak #Cloakcoin volume in the next week or so!

But to be fair, maybe he was talking about SELL volume.  

I'm not a cheerleader for anybody, and I already said what I had to do about Alty and his lack of PR skills in my long post today.

The tweet that you are citing was never posted on Alty's twitter account - I have checked it on the day it happened, and you can check it now - there is no such a tweet on Alty's Twitter. Somebody fabricated this and posted it on the forum and now it is making rounds. Just want to make things clear here, for there are obviously so many fraudsters and scammers around here - you really don't know who to trust.

"Only your friend knows your secrets, so only he can reveal it...Who the cap fit - let them wear it"

Robert Nesta Marley

[BTCgraphics]

Alty ‏@CryptoPioneer  Sep 7
@ramikawach #Bittrex get ready for a surge in #Cloak #Cloakcoin volume in the next week or so!

But to be fair, maybe he was talking about SELL volume. 

Who can believe that alty would not have been asking the lead dev about progress on sunday when he tweeted this, i feel dirty and used


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He tweeted about a surge this week.

To be fair to him.... it's Wednesday, the week is not even half way done

[tempus]

I'm not a cheerleader for anybody, and I already said what I had to do about Alty and his lack of PR skills in my long post today.

The tweet that you are citing was never posted on Alty's twitter account - I have checked it on the day it happened, and you can check it now - there is no such a tweet on Alty's Twitter. Somebody fabricated this and posted it on the forum and now it is making rounds. Just want to make things clear here, for there are obviously so many fraudsters and scammers around here - you really don't know who to trust.

"Only your friend knows your secrets, so only he can reveal it...Who the cap fit - let them wear it"

Robert Nesta Marley

 

The Tweet was there. I don't find it when I go to Altys Twitter-Account, but I find it if I go under my own Tweets, because I retweeted it:
https://twitter.com/CryptoPioneer/status/508705270889861120

Maybe it's because it is an "@-Tweet"?

[erok]

Alty ‏@CryptoPioneer  Sep 7
@ramikawach #Bittrex get ready for a surge in #Cloak #Cloakcoin volume in the next week or so!

But to be fair, maybe he was talking about SELL volume.  

Who can believe that alty would not have been asking the lead dev about progress on sunday when he tweeted this, i feel dirty and used



He tweeted about a surge this week.

To be fair to him.... it's Wednesday, the week is not even half way done

I still like the site(s) you made. I appreciate your effort.

[allyouracid]

Where is the one market ?

There.Is.No.Such.Thing.
There wasn't, there hasn't been, there isn't, there won't be and there won't have been anything called "OneMarket".

Or, to say it with some altered form of community's members' words: mark my words and you'll cry later.
Finally, I turned into a cynicist. Hope this condition passes as time goes by.

Alty said onemarket will be tested on testnet soon. It was supposed to be today, A simple delay means "there was never a OneMarket" to some.

I think it is just a delay, very common in the programming world.

But you can draw your own conclusions.

I admire people who can still be positive. Also, I'm a programmer by profession and I know about the delays. But this is something completely different.
To me, it's just a feeling: we have announcements, nice PDFs but where are the things that are listed on those PDFs? Does anyone even know what half of the features are? At the moment, they are just pastime for guessing funny acronyms. Everything gets delayed, we hear that something will come without anyone even knowing what that is supposed to be (besides OneMarket).

Just think about it. In the last two months, couldn't it maybe be possible that there wasn't anything being developed on cloak? Regarding everything we got, was there anything, any sneek peek to what's being developed? Has anybody ever seen any development in the past weeks? I mean, not just heard about it?
Maybe I'm wrong (I would be glad to be wrong [see, YourMother: no problem admitting being wrong]), but to me it could also be likely that this coin is just being used to produce some money by releasing news from time to time. Nice and easy income, rinse and repeat.

Still, I hope I'm wrong.

[Starving_Marvin]

why wouldn't they then sell their coins? http://cloak.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/index.php?min=1000

why would they have admitted that POSA wasn't working?

[BTCgraphics]

why wouldn't they then sell their coins? http://cloak.blockexplorer.cc/richlist/index.php?min=1000

why would they have admitted that POSA wasn't working?

The reason i'm still holding. I just think it's a bad communication job.

[tempus]

Where is the one market ?

There.Is.No.Such.Thing.
There wasn't, there hasn't been, there isn't, there won't be and there won't have been anything called "OneMarket".

Or, to say it with some altered form of community's members' words: mark my words and you'll cry later.
Finally, I turned into a cynicist. Hope this condition passes as time goes by.

Alty said onemarket will be tested on testnet soon. It was supposed to be today, A simple delay means "there was never a OneMarket" to some.

I think it is just a delay, very common in the programming world.

But you can draw your own conclusions.

I admire people who can still be positive. Also, I'm a programmer by profession and I know about the delays. But this is something completely different.
To me, it's just a feeling: we have announcements, nice PDFs but where are the things that are listed on those PDFs? Does anyone even know what half of the features there are supposed to be? At the moment, they are just pastime for guessing funny acronyms. Everything gets delayed, we hear that something will come without anyone even knowing what that is supposed to be (besides OneMarket).

Just think about it. In the last two months, couldn't it maybe be possible that there wasn't anything being developed on cloak? Regarding everything we got, was there anything, any sneek peek to what's being developed? Has anybody ever seen any development in the past weeks? I mean, not just heard about it?
Maybe I'm wrong (I would be glad to be wrong [see, YourMother: no problem admitting being wrong]), but to me it could also be likely that this coin is just being used to produce some money by releasing news from time to time. Nice and easy income, rinse and repeat.

Still, I hope I'm wrong.

PoSA exists. There were the testings. There were the differences between MrRGnome and the team but even if he was very disappointed, he also confirmed that it's all there. This is absolutely no Scam. If it would be one, they would have announced a passed audit, than sold .....and away.

The problem is: There are delays. It's not the first one. But, even this I don't see as a big problem if there is communication. And in the first time there was a lot of communication and explanation. But now... one Tweet. That's all. And T H A T , for me, is the biggest problem and it threatens the whole project, because it looks fishy. Some think they are gone. Others think they could intend a price-drop to buy before the release and so on.

I personally think: They are under a lot of pressure and they don't know how to handle it. They don't want questions and they don't want to answer these questions. Therefore they avoid communicative ways like IRC or Forum. But I also think: There will be a release.

[mimini0147]

I recommended everbody stop buying this coin until new feature release !

[LiberyOrDeath]

I admire people who can still be positive. Also, I'm a programmer by profession and I know about the delays. But this is something completely different.
To me, it's just a feeling: we have announcements, nice PDFs but where are the things that are listed on those PDFs? Does anyone even know what half of the features there are supposed to be? At the moment, they are just pastime for guessing funny acronyms. Everything gets delayed, we hear that something will come without anyone even knowing what that is supposed to be (besides OneMarket).

Just think about it. In the last two months, couldn't it maybe be possible that there wasn't anything being developed on cloak? Regarding everything we got, was there anything, any sneek peek to what's being developed? Has anybody ever seen any development in the past weeks? I mean, not just heard about it?
Maybe I'm wrong (I would be glad to be wrong [see, YourMother: no problem admitting being wrong]), but to me it could also be likely that this coin is just being used to produce some money by releasing news from time to time. Nice and easy income, rinse and repeat.

Still, I hope I'm wrong.

I've give this a lot of thought in the last weeks. Your argument is valid and it cannot be easily refuted. You are doing due diligence and it is what real investors are supposed to do.

However, the one thing that strikes me as unusual, is the fact that they are acting completely opposite of the way scammers would act. I mean for instance, yesterday if Alty wanted to pump up the price and sell his coins at profit he could have made his tweet a complete fabrication and something to rile the people up like "Yeah we are just finishing Beta testing - the final version of OneMarket is out tomorrow at 2 pm GMT". Doing things like this could have significantly increased the profits of the devs if they are indeed doing insider trading. Yet his tweet yesterday was blank and non-descript - so the whole idea of them trying to pull such an elaborate scam is questionable.

I mean you are basically throwing out a conspiracy theory that for the last two months a group of at least a dozen people have been pulling the strings of the half crypto community. Wouldn't there be any leaks, and proof that such a conspiracy was going on, or a rumour or at least a whisper from someone who knows the devs - No. We haven't seen it such a thing at all.

Therefore, I accept your argument as having a solid foundation, but consider my points for a minute if you have the time.

I don't like being take for the ride as much as you or anyone else here, but perhaps there is more to it than we can assume and at this point there is no middle way, I hope you guys understand that - either we are going down to 0 satoshi or we get "the Holy Grail".

[LiberyOrDeath]

I recommended everbody stop buying this coin until new feature release !

You should be charging people money for your advices. Why give away such wisdom for free?