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January 28, 2016, 11:15:34 AM |
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Prove or quit it. No one has seen God, heard God etc. Interesting how something that no one can prove exists. Where? How?
Right, God is in our minds and hearts, no one can practically or scientifically prove that God exists as no one have seen God in real life.
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January 28, 2016, 05:46:10 PM |
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Prove or quit it. No one has seen God, heard God etc. Interesting how something that no one can prove exists. Where? How?
Right, God is in our minds and hearts, no one can practically or scientifically prove that God exists as no one have seen God in real life. The laws of science as we know them, that prove that God exists, do not really say anything about what He is. They DO show that He is intelligent and smart beyond understanding. But they only suggest that He is One Being. They don't prove it... at least as far as I know. Everything operates by cause and effect. This means that there is really nothing random. This means that everything is pre-programmed. This almost proves God by itself. Another thing that almost proves God alone is, we don't see anything that can make the complexity around us. Anything that can cause the complexity we see in mankind and the universe, must be more complex. There is nothing in nature where something more complex comes from something less complex. When we combine simple atoms into complex molecules, it is the complexity that we are that is doing it. Entropy shows that everything is trying to equalize throughout the universe. Mountains erode into the valleys. Valleys fill up to meet the reducing mountains at the level of the plain. All the energy and material in the universe is doing this in one way or another... dissipating to equalize throughout the whole space-time continuum. We see nothing that causes any greatness without greater reduction of itself to make the greatness that it makes. Something was great enough that it could set the cause and effect into place with such complexity in the face of all-pervading entropy. Such thing fits our definitions of the word "God." ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 28, 2016, 09:05:29 PM |
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Without God Existence, how come the whole world is running.
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January 29, 2016, 01:29:17 PM |
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"God is scientifically explained because there are things in the world around us" is not an explanation. At least not a scientific one. Now if you really do have a scientific explanation for God, then please - I'm the first one to listen to it more than carefully.
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January 29, 2016, 02:37:55 PM |
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"God is scientifically explained because there are things in the world around us" is not an explanation. At least not a scientific one. Now if you really do have a scientific explanation for God, then please - I'm the first one to listen to it more than carefully.
You might be right if there were not quantity, quality, and complexity in the things around us... and if science had not already proven the existence of God as shown in my previous post in this thread. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 17, 2016, 02:03:57 PM |
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it is a matter of faith, not science. Maybe science can proof something in the future, but it is still not possible today.
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February 18, 2016, 02:40:29 AM |
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As of now, there is no scientific proof that god exists. However, I think the current scientific knowledge we have is enough to show that God does not exist, or at least that certain stories of God could not be possible, such as the belief of Adam and Eve. There is enough scientific evidence to prove that evolution has been and is currently taking place.
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February 18, 2016, 06:36:48 AM |
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You can only feel God. Just like gravity, it don't exist that you can see it. but you can feel it. try jumping from the 10th storey building and sure you know you've been pulled down. Once you're on the ground after few seconds, you'll feel gravity. Thats kinda like God, you feel it when you're in the near death.. You should try jumping just maybe 5th floor. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 18, 2016, 06:57:12 AM |
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As of now, there is no scientific proof that god exists. However, I think the current scientific knowledge we have is enough to show that God does not exist, or at least that certain stories of God could not be possible, such as the belief of Adam and Eve. There is enough scientific evidence to prove that evolution has been and is currently taking place.
Newton's 3rd Law, action and reaction, applies to everything in the universe that people know about so far. Action and reaction are very similar to cause and effect. Everything in the universe exists because one or more things caused it to exist the way it does. Whatever evolution is, all of the happenings of it were caused by other happenings. And those causes were caused by other causes. And those causes were caused by other causes... all the way back to when? There is no random event that we know of in nature. Everything was caused by one or more other things causing it to happen or exist. This means that the common understanding of evolution is not true. Evolution requires random, spontaneous happenstance, which has never been seen in the universe, and virtually cannot happen. Essentially, what cause and effect means is that the universe has been programmed by something. And whatever that something was, has caused extreme complexity, as we see all around us and within ourselves. We can't make this extreme complexity. We can't even manipulate it enough to cause ourselves to live much more than 100 years. Because of the complexity, and especially the complexity of mind and brain, anything capable of programming this complexity through cause and effect, must have had complexity even greater. Why? Because our complexity isn't great enough to do the programming. As just stated, we are not even complex enough to program ourselves to live beyond about 100 years. Whatever was complex enough to do the cause and effect programming that maintains the complexity we see in the universe, fits the definition/description of our word "God." We surely don't understand the Thing we call God. It is way beyond us. But the fact of the existence of the universe as it exists shows us that something far greater and more intelligent than the universe, and than mankind, exists. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 18, 2016, 07:07:48 AM |
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Yeah, right - nuggets. Still, you people with the flat earth and God exists and other propaganda should let people decide for themselves.
Nobody can force another to believe in God. Even for-real brainwashing doesn't stick. Are you sure about that? It seems to have worked on you... But in the foxholes... In times of great pain, fear, joy, or pleasure, all but a very few people acknowledge God. It is our nature to recognize God without proof.
The aphorismus, "there are no Atheists in foxholes", is really a backwards argument... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_no_atheists_in_foxholes#Notable_counterexamplesIt assumes that everyone in a foxhole is hiding, praying to God to save their life... The problem is... if Christians actually believed God would protect them from bullets, they would have no need for hiding in a foxhole... therefore, one can conclude, "there are no Christians in foxholes"... quite the opposite of your hypothesis (as always)
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February 18, 2016, 07:48:44 AM |
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Yeah, right - nuggets. Still, you people with the flat earth and God exists and other propaganda should let people decide for themselves.
Nobody can force another to believe in God. Even for-real brainwashing doesn't stick. Are you sure about that? It seems to have worked on you... It's called logic. As I have often shown, God logically exists. I am really curious as to why you are so against the logic that you would try to continuously deceive people into not understanding about God. But in the foxholes... In times of great pain, fear, joy, or pleasure, all but a very few people acknowledge God. It is our nature to recognize God without proof.
The aphorismus, "there are no Atheists in foxholes", is really a backwards argument... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_no_atheists_in_foxholes#Notable_counterexamplesIt assumes that everyone in a foxhole is hiding, praying to God to save their life... The problem is... if Christians actually believed God would protect them from bullets, they would have no need for hiding in a foxhole... therefore, one can conclude, "there are no Christians in foxholes"... quite the opposite of your hypothesis (as always) There aren't many Christians in the foxholes for a different reason that there aren't many atheists in the foxholes. There are a few people who are strong enough to resist God and maintain their atheism even in the face of the terror of death, even though God calls them, spiritually, in a strong way at that time, just to give them a final great chance. Christians are generally too smart to go to war. Let's hope you have changed before your final death time comes. Often death comes fast, and there is no time to change a strong anti-God attitude then. However, with your knowledge of God already what it is, you might be a whole lot nearer to Christianity, way down deep, than you know. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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April 18, 2016, 05:24:57 PM |
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This forum full of evolution theory lover. Tell me about the eyes creation. Darvin told us then when he thought about the eye, cold sweat come to him. Stop the bull shit and accept a Universal creator for all of us, which is GOD.
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April 18, 2016, 08:59:41 PM |
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This forum full of evolution theory lover. Tell me about the eyes creation. Darvin told us then when he thought about the eye, cold sweat come to him. Stop the bull shit and accept a Universal creator for all of us, which is GOD.
I wouldn't mind if God exists. We were all created in his image. That makes God a pussy loving perverted alcoholic addicted to tequila that smokes joints occasionally and loves to gamble. God and I would get along pretty well. lol
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April 19, 2016, 01:36:44 AM |
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This forum full of evolution theory lover. Tell me about the eyes creation. Darvin told us then when he thought about the eye, cold sweat come to him. Stop the bull shit and accept a Universal creator for all of us, which is GOD.
The main question of everybody who don't belive God exists: " Where are God is and why he didn't show himself to people?" I really want to be a believer but i can't.
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April 27, 2016, 01:59:12 AM |
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THOMAS the believer, do you read the bible? there's a scientific proof that GOD really exist,just try to research , The noah's ark, the bible says earth is round, science says it is flat , hundred years of study, science says earth is round
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April 27, 2016, 02:17:44 AM |
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If he existed then he would be a mean spirited kid that has a odd sense of humor. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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April 27, 2016, 02:30:42 AM |
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I am sorry but I disagree with some of the comments proving that god exists. If you read the bible, it says to have faith. So why are we looking for proof when we just need a little faith? There can not be a simpler answer than that.
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April 27, 2016, 03:36:24 AM |
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I am sorry but I disagree with some of the comments proving that god exists. If you read the bible, it says to have faith. So why are we looking for proof when we just need a little faith? There can not be a simpler answer than that.
The Bible doesn't say to have blind faith in God's existence. Rather, it says to have faith in the things that He tells us. We all know in our hearts that God exists. Science simply proves it scientifically. Faith is faith in the things that He tells us, especially about Jesus salvation. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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April 27, 2016, 05:10:42 AM |
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Yeah, right - nuggets. Still, you people with the flat earth and God exists and other propaganda should let people decide for themselves.
Nobody can force another to believe in God. Even for-real brainwashing doesn't stick. Are you sure about that? It seems to have worked on you... It's called logic. As I have often shown, God logically exists. I am really curious as to why you are so against the logic that you would try to continuously deceive people into not understanding about God. But in the foxholes... In times of great pain, fear, joy, or pleasure, all but a very few people acknowledge God. It is our nature to recognize God without proof.
The aphorismus, "there are no Atheists in foxholes", is really a backwards argument... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_are_no_atheists_in_foxholes#Notable_counterexamplesIt assumes that everyone in a foxhole is hiding, praying to God to save their life... The problem is... if Christians actually believed God would protect them from bullets, they would have no need for hiding in a foxhole... therefore, one can conclude, "there are no Christians in foxholes"... quite the opposite of your hypothesis (as always) There aren't many Christians in the foxholes for a different reason that there aren't many atheists in the foxholes. There are a few people who are strong enough to resist God and maintain their atheism even in the face of the terror of death, even though God calls them, spiritually, in a strong way at that time, just to give them a final great chance. Christians are generally too smart to go to war. Let's hope you have changed before your final death time comes. Often death comes fast, and there is no time to change a strong anti-God attitude then. However, with your knowledge of God already what it is, you might be a whole lot nearer to Christianity, way down deep, than you know. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) If the TRUE Christians believed that God would protect them from bullets, no bullets can harm to the true Christians ,AMEN
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April 27, 2016, 05:47:05 AM |
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I think God works via miracles and science works via proof. It doesnt jive.
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