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May 13, 2017, 02:04:17 AM
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Creationist websites haven't yet heard about cosmic background radiation, as I see. Keep believing in your nothing, but keep out of scientific discussions, you obviously understand as much as a brain damaged donkey would.

Notice the lack of one of the basic laws of science in this quoted post^^^... cause and effect.

For a fact, at least after background radiation reaches earth, cause and effect interact with it. Since we have seen nothing contradictory to cause and effect, and since the universe is one, cause and effect applies to cosmic background radiation while it is still in transit to Earth.

But, why should we stop a troll in his tracks? Let him keep on blabbing.

Cool
As I stated above, creationist websites don't teach you about cosmic background radiation since... I don't even know what the fuck you believe cosmic background radiation helps for, but I'll just be a cool guy and make it clear for you little donkey: the CMB, the cosmic microwave background is the trail left by the creation of our universe, to be more explicit, the Big Bang, or the voodoo thing you creationist, apologist donkeys fail to properly understand. But bare this in mind, I do not even pretend you understand or give credit to the Big Bang, I know it seems impossible for idiots who believe the universe was created 6000 years ago or so. Sleep tight little one, the Big DuDu in the sky might send you to hell if you don't.

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May 13, 2017, 02:21:26 AM
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I dont mean to offend those who are science fanatics and athiests. Im not an expert in God's words or the Bible but if analyze the Bible very well you can see the connections of the events from the old through the new testament, one example is the predictions made that did come true. There are many evidences and proof written the Bible that shows its legitimacy, and what does science wants? Proof right? There also circumstances as far as my knowledge in the Bible is concerned that science and the Bible had connections. And we cant explain God through science because God is the greatest scientist who personally made science ( in my belief ) and all the creatures in such a complex manner that only He can understand.
It's good that you are not an expert in the Bible, because if you would have claimed to be one, that would really offend human kind. The bible has huge inconsistencies and its legitimacy stands for it as a work of art, not a work of science or at least an informative book. It's nice to read it, the poetry is really well written but that's all, I also like Shakespeare. If you wonder about inconsistencies, you can start with the age of the universe, the 6000 years...

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May 13, 2017, 03:32:22 AM
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God definitely exists as no human being is not being able to handle this whole nature. Nature exists due to God or we can say that nature is god.
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May 13, 2017, 06:06:53 AM
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Creationist websites haven't yet heard about cosmic background radiation, as I see. Keep believing in your nothing, but keep out of scientific discussions, you obviously understand as much as a brain damaged donkey would.

Notice the lack of one of the basic laws of science in this quoted post^^^... cause and effect.

For a fact, at least after background radiation reaches earth, cause and effect interact with it. Since we have seen nothing contradictory to cause and effect, and since the universe is one, cause and effect applies to cosmic background radiation while it is still in transit to Earth.

But, why should we stop a troll in his tracks? Let him keep on blabbing.

Cool
As I stated above, creationist websites don't teach you about cosmic background radiation since... I don't even know what the fuck you believe cosmic background radiation helps for, but I'll just be a cool guy and make it clear for you little donkey: the CMB, the cosmic microwave background is the trail left by the creation of our universe, to be more explicit, the Big Bang, or the voodoo thing you creationist, apologist donkeys fail to properly understand. But bare this in mind, I do not even pretend you understand or give credit to the Big Bang, I know it seems impossible for idiots who believe the universe was created 6000 years ago or so. Sleep tight little one, the Big DuDu in the sky might send you to hell if you don't.

I forgot.

Scientists have their theories and guesses. But you were there.

LOL!

Cool

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May 13, 2017, 06:34:08 AM
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Creationist websites haven't yet heard about cosmic background radiation, as I see. Keep believing in your nothing, but keep out of scientific discussions, you obviously understand as much as a brain damaged donkey would.

Notice the lack of one of the basic laws of science in this quoted post^^^... cause and effect.

For a fact, at least after background radiation reaches earth, cause and effect interact with it. Since we have seen nothing contradictory to cause and effect, and since the universe is one, cause and effect applies to cosmic background radiation while it is still in transit to Earth.

But, why should we stop a troll in his tracks? Let him keep on blabbing.

Cool
As I stated above, creationist websites don't teach you about cosmic background radiation since... I don't even know what the fuck you believe cosmic background radiation helps for, but I'll just be a cool guy and make it clear for you little donkey: the CMB, the cosmic microwave background is the trail left by the creation of our universe, to be more explicit, the Big Bang, or the voodoo thing you creationist, apologist donkeys fail to properly understand. But bare this in mind, I do not even pretend you understand or give credit to the Big Bang, I know it seems impossible for idiots who believe the universe was created 6000 years ago or so. Sleep tight little one, the Big DuDu in the sky might send you to hell if you don't.

I forgot.

Scientists have their theories and guesses. But you were there.

LOL!

Cool
Not really, you are the only ones who claim to hold the truth, poisoning everything.

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May 13, 2017, 06:38:45 AM
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Creationist websites haven't yet heard about cosmic background radiation, as I see. Keep believing in your nothing, but keep out of scientific discussions, you obviously understand as much as a brain damaged donkey would.

Notice the lack of one of the basic laws of science in this quoted post^^^... cause and effect.

For a fact, at least after background radiation reaches earth, cause and effect interact with it. Since we have seen nothing contradictory to cause and effect, and since the universe is one, cause and effect applies to cosmic background radiation while it is still in transit to Earth.

But, why should we stop a troll in his tracks? Let him keep on blabbing.

Cool
As I stated above, creationist websites don't teach you about cosmic background radiation since... I don't even know what the fuck you believe cosmic background radiation helps for, but I'll just be a cool guy and make it clear for you little donkey: the CMB, the cosmic microwave background is the trail left by the creation of our universe, to be more explicit, the Big Bang, or the voodoo thing you creationist, apologist donkeys fail to properly understand. But bare this in mind, I do not even pretend you understand or give credit to the Big Bang, I know it seems impossible for idiots who believe the universe was created 6000 years ago or so. Sleep tight little one, the Big DuDu in the sky might send you to hell if you don't.

I forgot.

Scientists have their theories and guesses. But you were there.

LOL!

Cool
Not really, you are the only ones who claim to hold the truth, poisoning everything.

Well, thank you  Cheesy

Since you were not there,
and since science only theorizes about this,
but since cause and effect, universal entropy, and complex universe are science law,
background radiation doesn't have anything to do with it.

Thanks again.

Cool

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May 13, 2017, 02:23:03 PM
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Creationist websites haven't yet heard about cosmic background radiation, as I see. Keep believing in your nothing, but keep out of scientific discussions, you obviously understand as much as a brain damaged donkey would.

Notice the lack of one of the basic laws of science in this quoted post^^^... cause and effect.

For a fact, at least after background radiation reaches earth, cause and effect interact with it. Since we have seen nothing contradictory to cause and effect, and since the universe is one, cause and effect applies to cosmic background radiation while it is still in transit to Earth.

But, why should we stop a troll in his tracks? Let him keep on blabbing.

Cool
As I stated above, creationist websites don't teach you about cosmic background radiation since... I don't even know what the fuck you believe cosmic background radiation helps for, but I'll just be a cool guy and make it clear for you little donkey: the CMB, the cosmic microwave background is the trail left by the creation of our universe, to be more explicit, the Big Bang, or the voodoo thing you creationist, apologist donkeys fail to properly understand. But bare this in mind, I do not even pretend you understand or give credit to the Big Bang, I know it seems impossible for idiots who believe the universe was created 6000 years ago or so. Sleep tight little one, the Big DuDu in the sky might send you to hell if you don't.

I forgot.

Scientists have their theories and guesses. But you were there.

LOL!

Cool
Not really, you are the only ones who claim to hold the truth, poisoning everything.

Well, thank you  Cheesy

Since you were not there,
and since science only theorizes about this,
but since cause and effect, universal entropy, and complex universe are science law,
background radiation doesn't have anything to do with it.

Thanks again.

Cool
I said I do not expect you to understand the trails that the Big Bang left, so don't struggle to come with your brainless arguments. However, what I would expect you to do is not be ashamed with your faith, which you are. Religion and science do not go along because religion is based solely on revelation and faith. Yes, religious people have no choice but to admit scientific discoveries, but however, what they do with it is take it for granted and use it in their advantage by claiming 'that is another evidence of how majestic is God'. In common terms we call that bullshit. Worse than bullshit is the fact that people like you are ashamed and afraid of sticking with faith, and try to take on science entering a battle that they will lose each and every time.

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May 13, 2017, 07:53:50 PM
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Creationist websites haven't yet heard about cosmic background radiation, as I see. Keep believing in your nothing, but keep out of scientific discussions, you obviously understand as much as a brain damaged donkey would.

Notice the lack of one of the basic laws of science in this quoted post^^^... cause and effect.

For a fact, at least after background radiation reaches earth, cause and effect interact with it. Since we have seen nothing contradictory to cause and effect, and since the universe is one, cause and effect applies to cosmic background radiation while it is still in transit to Earth.

But, why should we stop a troll in his tracks? Let him keep on blabbing.

Cool
As I stated above, creationist websites don't teach you about cosmic background radiation since... I don't even know what the fuck you believe cosmic background radiation helps for, but I'll just be a cool guy and make it clear for you little donkey: the CMB, the cosmic microwave background is the trail left by the creation of our universe, to be more explicit, the Big Bang, or the voodoo thing you creationist, apologist donkeys fail to properly understand. But bare this in mind, I do not even pretend you understand or give credit to the Big Bang, I know it seems impossible for idiots who believe the universe was created 6000 years ago or so. Sleep tight little one, the Big DuDu in the sky might send you to hell if you don't.

I forgot.

Scientists have their theories and guesses. But you were there.

LOL!

Cool
Not really, you are the only ones who claim to hold the truth, poisoning everything.

Well, thank you  Cheesy

Since you were not there,
and since science only theorizes about this,
but since cause and effect, universal entropy, and complex universe are science law,
background radiation doesn't have anything to do with it.

Thanks again.

Cool
I said I do not expect you to understand the trails that the Big Bang left, so don't struggle to come with your brainless arguments. However, what I would expect you to do is not be ashamed with your faith, which you are. Religion and science do not go along because religion is based solely on revelation and faith. Yes, religious people have no choice but to admit scientific discoveries, but however, what they do with it is take it for granted and use it in their advantage by claiming 'that is another evidence of how majestic is God'. In common terms we call that bullshit. Worse than bullshit is the fact that people like you are ashamed and afraid of sticking with faith, and try to take on science entering a battle that they will lose each and every time.

I had hoped you would understand that the trails couldn't have been left by the big bang, because it never existed. Well, it exists after a fashion in the imagination of some scientists. But scientific law proves that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
while big bang is only theory.

Why don't you come right out and admit that you have a religion going for yourself in theories that are not known to be fact? At the same time, science fact has knowledge going for itself in proof that God exists.

Cool

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May 13, 2017, 08:59:18 PM
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Creationist websites haven't yet heard about cosmic background radiation, as I see. Keep believing in your nothing, but keep out of scientific discussions, you obviously understand as much as a brain damaged donkey would.

Notice the lack of one of the basic laws of science in this quoted post^^^... cause and effect.

For a fact, at least after background radiation reaches earth, cause and effect interact with it. Since we have seen nothing contradictory to cause and effect, and since the universe is one, cause and effect applies to cosmic background radiation while it is still in transit to Earth.

But, why should we stop a troll in his tracks? Let him keep on blabbing.

Cool
As I stated above, creationist websites don't teach you about cosmic background radiation since... I don't even know what the fuck you believe cosmic background radiation helps for, but I'll just be a cool guy and make it clear for you little donkey: the CMB, the cosmic microwave background is the trail left by the creation of our universe, to be more explicit, the Big Bang, or the voodoo thing you creationist, apologist donkeys fail to properly understand. But bare this in mind, I do not even pretend you understand or give credit to the Big Bang, I know it seems impossible for idiots who believe the universe was created 6000 years ago or so. Sleep tight little one, the Big DuDu in the sky might send you to hell if you don't.

I forgot.

Scientists have their theories and guesses. But you were there.

LOL!

Cool
Not really, you are the only ones who claim to hold the truth, poisoning everything.

Well, thank you  Cheesy

Since you were not there,
and since science only theorizes about this,
but since cause and effect, universal entropy, and complex universe are science law,
background radiation doesn't have anything to do with it.

Thanks again.

Cool
I said I do not expect you to understand the trails that the Big Bang left, so don't struggle to come with your brainless arguments. However, what I would expect you to do is not be ashamed with your faith, which you are. Religion and science do not go along because religion is based solely on revelation and faith. Yes, religious people have no choice but to admit scientific discoveries, but however, what they do with it is take it for granted and use it in their advantage by claiming 'that is another evidence of how majestic is God'. In common terms we call that bullshit. Worse than bullshit is the fact that people like you are ashamed and afraid of sticking with faith, and try to take on science entering a battle that they will lose each and every time.

I had hoped you would understand that the trails couldn't have been left by the big bang, because it never existed. Well, it exists after a fashion in the imagination of some scientists. But scientific law proves that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
while big bang is only theory.

Why don't you come right out and admit that you have a religion going for yourself in theories that are not known to be fact? At the same time, science fact has knowledge going for itself in proof that God exists.

Cool
Science has nothing to do with any God, nor is this a battle of who was there or not. You weren't there, nobody was there, not even the hebrews who wrote the old testament. However, while science admits to not knowing many things, you dumb asses claim to know, so you are the only ones who got a religion going for themselves. Science is pretty accurate, even regarding Big Bang, it was predicted a Background radiation would be found, but again, I have no expectances of you.

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May 13, 2017, 10:46:58 PM
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I had hoped you would understand that the trails couldn't have been left by the big bang, because it never existed. Well, it exists after a fashion in the imagination of some scientists. But scientific law proves that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
while big bang is only theory.

Why don't you come right out and admit that you have a religion going for yourself in theories that are not known to be fact? At the same time, science fact has knowledge going for itself in proof that God exists.

Cool
Science has nothing to do with any God, nor is this a battle of who was there or not. You weren't there, nobody was there, not even the hebrews who wrote the old testament. However, while science admits to not knowing many things, you dumb asses claim to know, so you are the only ones who got a religion going for themselves. Science is pretty accurate, even regarding Big Bang, it was predicted a Background radiation would be found, but again, I have no expectances of you.

Yet, I have shown the scientific proof that God exists. Even if you can't understand the proof, you can Google the science laws that make up the elements of the proof, and see that they exist.

Here you are, dragging in the Hebrews and their religion, again. Does everything have to be religion for you?

The math regarding big bang might be reasonably accurate in itself, but there are all kinds of things that are possible that, if one of them were added to BB theory, the whole thing would collapse. As I have said, even if a form of big bang were PROVEN to be possible, that still wouldn't PROVE that the universe was formed that way.

The fact that there are at least 3 major forms of BB theory shows that big bang is simply something scientists play with. Drop the silly big bang idea. Get down to the facts of science law as listed in my links, above, and see how the universe was created.

We may not know much about God, but the fact that there is intelligence and emotion in the universe that He created, shows that He exists as a sentient being.

Cool

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May 14, 2017, 12:13:45 AM
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I had hoped you would understand that the trails couldn't have been left by the big bang, because it never existed. Well, it exists after a fashion in the imagination of some scientists. But scientific law proves that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
while big bang is only theory.

Why don't you come right out and admit that you have a religion going for yourself in theories that are not known to be fact? At the same time, science fact has knowledge going for itself in proof that God exists.

Cool
Science has nothing to do with any God, nor is this a battle of who was there or not. You weren't there, nobody was there, not even the hebrews who wrote the old testament. However, while science admits to not knowing many things, you dumb asses claim to know, so you are the only ones who got a religion going for themselves. Science is pretty accurate, even regarding Big Bang, it was predicted a Background radiation would be found, but again, I have no expectances of you.

Yet, I have shown the scientific proof that God exists. Even if you can't understand the proof, you can Google the science laws that make up the elements of the proof, and see that they exist.

Here you are, dragging in the Hebrews and their religion, again. Does everything have to be religion for you?

The math regarding big bang might be reasonably accurate in itself, but there are all kinds of things that are possible that, if one of them were added to BB theory, the whole thing would collapse. As I have said, even if a form of big bang were PROVEN to be possible, that still wouldn't PROVE that the universe was formed that way.

The fact that there are at least 3 major forms of BB theory shows that big bang is simply something scientists play with. Drop the silly big bang idea. Get down to the facts of science law as listed in my links, above, and see how the universe was created.

We may not know much about God, but the fact that there is intelligence and emotion in the universe that He created, shows that He exists as a sentient being.

Cool
You have shown no scientific proof of a God, nobody has. You've shown proof of laws of physics and nature that exist and have already been proven. As for the religion thing, everything is religion when it involves God since Gods came up through religion, that's the main story, the revelation. Also, as I was saying, you are too ashamed to bring religion into discussion, because that is already a lost battle. So what are you, in the end? Because you are not a scientist and you also deny your religion, basically denying your god. You should make up for something, otherwise you're just a babbling donkey.

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May 14, 2017, 12:35:14 AM
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I had hoped you would understand that the trails couldn't have been left by the big bang, because it never existed. Well, it exists after a fashion in the imagination of some scientists. But scientific law proves that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
while big bang is only theory.

Why don't you come right out and admit that you have a religion going for yourself in theories that are not known to be fact? At the same time, science fact has knowledge going for itself in proof that God exists.

Cool
Science has nothing to do with any God, nor is this a battle of who was there or not. You weren't there, nobody was there, not even the hebrews who wrote the old testament. However, while science admits to not knowing many things, you dumb asses claim to know, so you are the only ones who got a religion going for themselves. Science is pretty accurate, even regarding Big Bang, it was predicted a Background radiation would be found, but again, I have no expectances of you.

Yet, I have shown the scientific proof that God exists. Even if you can't understand the proof, you can Google the science laws that make up the elements of the proof, and see that they exist.

Here you are, dragging in the Hebrews and their religion, again. Does everything have to be religion for you?

The math regarding big bang might be reasonably accurate in itself, but there are all kinds of things that are possible that, if one of them were added to BB theory, the whole thing would collapse. As I have said, even if a form of big bang were PROVEN to be possible, that still wouldn't PROVE that the universe was formed that way.

The fact that there are at least 3 major forms of BB theory shows that big bang is simply something scientists play with. Drop the silly big bang idea. Get down to the facts of science law as listed in my links, above, and see how the universe was created.

We may not know much about God, but the fact that there is intelligence and emotion in the universe that He created, shows that He exists as a sentient being.

Cool
You have shown no scientific proof of a God, nobody has. You've shown proof of laws of physics and nature that exist and have already been proven. As for the religion thing, everything is religion when it involves God since Gods came up through religion, that's the main story, the revelation. Also, as I was saying, you are too ashamed to bring religion into discussion, because that is already a lost battle. So what are you, in the end? Because you are not a scientist and you also deny your religion, basically denying your god. You should make up for something, otherwise you're just a babbling donkey.

Do you understand the math behind big bang? Can you explain it? Can you begin to show where the "proof" in it is? No? I didn't think so.

There is nothing wrong with not being able to understand the proof for God. Lots of folks will not be able to understand the simple explanation. It's just like not being able to understand the math for big bang.

But here is the difference. The proof for God is backed up by scientific laws, while big bang is completely theory. And you know this.

The point? You would rather accept the make-believe science theory for big bang, yet you won't accept the scientific laws that show God.

For you it isn't about determining which is right. What it is about is accepting the laws/facts or accepting the theories/unknowns.

For you it is accepting the religion rather than the knowledge. And that is why you are constantly throwing religion into the mix.

Poor baby. You are so hung up on religion, that when the facts and knowledge stare you in the face, you would rather stick with your religion.

Cool

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May 14, 2017, 12:53:37 AM
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I had hoped you would understand that the trails couldn't have been left by the big bang, because it never existed. Well, it exists after a fashion in the imagination of some scientists. But scientific law proves that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
while big bang is only theory.

Why don't you come right out and admit that you have a religion going for yourself in theories that are not known to be fact? At the same time, science fact has knowledge going for itself in proof that God exists.

Cool
Science has nothing to do with any God, nor is this a battle of who was there or not. You weren't there, nobody was there, not even the hebrews who wrote the old testament. However, while science admits to not knowing many things, you dumb asses claim to know, so you are the only ones who got a religion going for themselves. Science is pretty accurate, even regarding Big Bang, it was predicted a Background radiation would be found, but again, I have no expectances of you.

Yet, I have shown the scientific proof that God exists. Even if you can't understand the proof, you can Google the science laws that make up the elements of the proof, and see that they exist.

Here you are, dragging in the Hebrews and their religion, again. Does everything have to be religion for you?

The math regarding big bang might be reasonably accurate in itself, but there are all kinds of things that are possible that, if one of them were added to BB theory, the whole thing would collapse. As I have said, even if a form of big bang were PROVEN to be possible, that still wouldn't PROVE that the universe was formed that way.

The fact that there are at least 3 major forms of BB theory shows that big bang is simply something scientists play with. Drop the silly big bang idea. Get down to the facts of science law as listed in my links, above, and see how the universe was created.

We may not know much about God, but the fact that there is intelligence and emotion in the universe that He created, shows that He exists as a sentient being.

Cool
You have shown no scientific proof of a God, nobody has. You've shown proof of laws of physics and nature that exist and have already been proven. As for the religion thing, everything is religion when it involves God since Gods came up through religion, that's the main story, the revelation. Also, as I was saying, you are too ashamed to bring religion into discussion, because that is already a lost battle. So what are you, in the end? Because you are not a scientist and you also deny your religion, basically denying your god. You should make up for something, otherwise you're just a babbling donkey.

Do you understand the math behind big bang? Can you explain it? Can you begin to show where the "proof" in it is? No? I didn't think so.

There is nothing wrong with not being able to understand the proof for God. Lots of folks will not be able to understand the simple explanation. It's just like not being able to understand the math for big bang.

But here is the difference. The proof for God is backed up by scientific laws, while big bang is completely theory. And you know this.

The point? You would rather accept the make-believe science theory for big bang, yet you won't accept the scientific laws that show God.

For you it isn't about determining which is right. What it is about is accepting the laws/facts or accepting the theories/unknowns.

For you it is accepting the religion rather than the knowledge. And that is why you are constantly throwing religion into the mix.

Poor baby. You are so hung up on religion, that when the facts and knowledge stare you in the face, you would rather stick with your religion.

Cool
You know you're brain dead when you claim that your proof for God is backed up by scientific laws while the Big Bang is not. That's a whole different level of retard. Whatever you will say, you are the retard here mate, get used to it.

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May 14, 2017, 02:29:12 AM
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I had hoped you would understand that the trails couldn't have been left by the big bang, because it never existed. Well, it exists after a fashion in the imagination of some scientists. But scientific law proves that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
while big bang is only theory.

Why don't you come right out and admit that you have a religion going for yourself in theories that are not known to be fact? At the same time, science fact has knowledge going for itself in proof that God exists.

Cool
Science has nothing to do with any God, nor is this a battle of who was there or not. You weren't there, nobody was there, not even the hebrews who wrote the old testament. However, while science admits to not knowing many things, you dumb asses claim to know, so you are the only ones who got a religion going for themselves. Science is pretty accurate, even regarding Big Bang, it was predicted a Background radiation would be found, but again, I have no expectances of you.

Yet, I have shown the scientific proof that God exists. Even if you can't understand the proof, you can Google the science laws that make up the elements of the proof, and see that they exist.

Here you are, dragging in the Hebrews and their religion, again. Does everything have to be religion for you?

The math regarding big bang might be reasonably accurate in itself, but there are all kinds of things that are possible that, if one of them were added to BB theory, the whole thing would collapse. As I have said, even if a form of big bang were PROVEN to be possible, that still wouldn't PROVE that the universe was formed that way.

The fact that there are at least 3 major forms of BB theory shows that big bang is simply something scientists play with. Drop the silly big bang idea. Get down to the facts of science law as listed in my links, above, and see how the universe was created.

We may not know much about God, but the fact that there is intelligence and emotion in the universe that He created, shows that He exists as a sentient being.

Cool
You have shown no scientific proof of a God, nobody has. You've shown proof of laws of physics and nature that exist and have already been proven. As for the religion thing, everything is religion when it involves God since Gods came up through religion, that's the main story, the revelation. Also, as I was saying, you are too ashamed to bring religion into discussion, because that is already a lost battle. So what are you, in the end? Because you are not a scientist and you also deny your religion, basically denying your god. You should make up for something, otherwise you're just a babbling donkey.

Do you understand the math behind big bang? Can you explain it? Can you begin to show where the "proof" in it is? No? I didn't think so.

There is nothing wrong with not being able to understand the proof for God. Lots of folks will not be able to understand the simple explanation. It's just like not being able to understand the math for big bang.

But here is the difference. The proof for God is backed up by scientific laws, while big bang is completely theory. And you know this.

The point? You would rather accept the make-believe science theory for big bang, yet you won't accept the scientific laws that show God.

For you it isn't about determining which is right. What it is about is accepting the laws/facts or accepting the theories/unknowns.

For you it is accepting the religion rather than the knowledge. And that is why you are constantly throwing religion into the mix.

Poor baby. You are so hung up on religion, that when the facts and knowledge stare you in the face, you would rather stick with your religion.

Cool
You know you're brain dead when you claim that your proof for God is backed up by scientific laws while the Big Bang is not. That's a whole different level of retard. Whatever you will say, you are the retard here mate, get used to it.

The major difference being, I have shown the scientific laws. Can you do the same?

The scientific laws I show are such great scientific laws, that they are among the basics of universe operation. How about yours?

Do you think I am picking on you by asking this of you? Not at all. And, you might even be able to show some scientific laws for big bang. But do it. Don't just babble about it.

Show some scientific laws for big bang, and explain how they work to prove big bang.

You sure are a bold little troll. I show the laws. You don't. But you keep on babbling like you have something to babble about. Come on, man. Be all that you can be and explain something about BB that isn't a bunch of theoretical unknowns.

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May 14, 2017, 03:18:42 AM
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I had hoped you would understand that the trails couldn't have been left by the big bang, because it never existed. Well, it exists after a fashion in the imagination of some scientists. But scientific law proves that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
while big bang is only theory.

Why don't you come right out and admit that you have a religion going for yourself in theories that are not known to be fact? At the same time, science fact has knowledge going for itself in proof that God exists.

Cool
Science has nothing to do with any God, nor is this a battle of who was there or not. You weren't there, nobody was there, not even the hebrews who wrote the old testament. However, while science admits to not knowing many things, you dumb asses claim to know, so you are the only ones who got a religion going for themselves. Science is pretty accurate, even regarding Big Bang, it was predicted a Background radiation would be found, but again, I have no expectances of you.

Yet, I have shown the scientific proof that God exists. Even if you can't understand the proof, you can Google the science laws that make up the elements of the proof, and see that they exist.

Here you are, dragging in the Hebrews and their religion, again. Does everything have to be religion for you?

The math regarding big bang might be reasonably accurate in itself, but there are all kinds of things that are possible that, if one of them were added to BB theory, the whole thing would collapse. As I have said, even if a form of big bang were PROVEN to be possible, that still wouldn't PROVE that the universe was formed that way.

The fact that there are at least 3 major forms of BB theory shows that big bang is simply something scientists play with. Drop the silly big bang idea. Get down to the facts of science law as listed in my links, above, and see how the universe was created.

We may not know much about God, but the fact that there is intelligence and emotion in the universe that He created, shows that He exists as a sentient being.

Cool
You have shown no scientific proof of a God, nobody has. You've shown proof of laws of physics and nature that exist and have already been proven. As for the religion thing, everything is religion when it involves God since Gods came up through religion, that's the main story, the revelation. Also, as I was saying, you are too ashamed to bring religion into discussion, because that is already a lost battle. So what are you, in the end? Because you are not a scientist and you also deny your religion, basically denying your god. You should make up for something, otherwise you're just a babbling donkey.

Do you understand the math behind big bang? Can you explain it? Can you begin to show where the "proof" in it is? No? I didn't think so.

There is nothing wrong with not being able to understand the proof for God. Lots of folks will not be able to understand the simple explanation. It's just like not being able to understand the math for big bang.

But here is the difference. The proof for God is backed up by scientific laws, while big bang is completely theory. And you know this.

The point? You would rather accept the make-believe science theory for big bang, yet you won't accept the scientific laws that show God.

For you it isn't about determining which is right. What it is about is accepting the laws/facts or accepting the theories/unknowns.

For you it is accepting the religion rather than the knowledge. And that is why you are constantly throwing religion into the mix.

Poor baby. You are so hung up on religion, that when the facts and knowledge stare you in the face, you would rather stick with your religion.

Cool
You know you're brain dead when you claim that your proof for God is backed up by scientific laws while the Big Bang is not. That's a whole different level of retard. Whatever you will say, you are the retard here mate, get used to it.

The major difference being, I have shown the scientific laws. Can you do the same?

The scientific laws I show are such great scientific laws, that they are among the basics of universe operation. How about yours?

Do you think I am picking on you by asking this of you? Not at all. And, you might even be able to show some scientific laws for big bang. But do it. Don't just babble about it.

Show some scientific laws for big bang, and explain how they work to prove big bang.

You sure are a bold little troll. I show the laws. You don't. But you keep on babbling like you have something to babble about. Come on, man. Be all that you can be and explain something about BB that isn't a bunch of theoretical unknowns.

Cool
That is precisely what you did, you've shown some laws, you have not proved anything and you should know better then that. We don't live in caves anymore, any type of God proof would have been known by now by the entire world, especially by the different religions around the world. There is no God proof and whether you are a complete retard or just a hypocrite, the truth remains the same. Obviously, you are one of them, and it is neither arguable, nor debatable. I don't think you are picking on me and no I will not show you some scientific laws for the big bang. That is information a 12 year old kid could get with a quick google search, it logically stands at the basics of the Big Bang, otherwise, if it were only for mathematics, nobody would waste time actually tracing the Big Bang back when the universe was merely 450.000 years old. You may deny that evidence, but certainly it will not make it less true, it will simply make you even more retarded, if that is even possible. And for the last time, the ones that have to prove something, and we are talking about solid, powerful, concrete evidence, is you because you claim to know exactly who and when created the universe. That is a very serious claim and can only be backed up with such evidence. Stop wasting your time and go fucking pray, your faith would be much more respected than the bullshit that you keep posting in your links and the insolence of calling your waste of time 'scientific research', a great offence to any scientist who ever lived on this planet. You can keep acting like an apologist piece of shit, or you can start getting real. The 'science' bullshit won't work here, nor anywhere else.

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May 14, 2017, 07:51:49 AM
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If I was to be capable of proving to you that does God exist, what would that look? What truth of science would it be based when gathering information? Mathematics, physics, geology, etc. I ask since it seems to me that most Atheists expect the answer to be endowed in science. Or nothing. I had an issue outside about what I believed could be demonstrated by science, and it seems that science cannot solve the enigma; the philosopher's teaching is the more suitable tool.
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Arno Allan Penzias (born 26 April 1933) is an American physicist, radio astronomer and Nobel laureate in physics who is co-discoverer of the cosmic microwave background radiation, which helped establish the Big Bang theory of cosmology.
Arno Penzias believed that his research in astronomy showed that the universe exists as a result of a supernatural plan.


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"Astronomy leads us to an unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing and delicately balanced to provide exactly the conditions required to support life. In the absence of an absurdly-improbable accident, the observations of modern science seem to suggest an underlying, one might say, supernatural plan."

https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers#researchers_penzias
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There are already much proofs to be specific scientific proofs of god being a fake fairy tale story which is believe by some people,dont include me there because i still believe in god

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Arno Allan Penzias (born 26 April 1933) is an American physicist, radio astronomer and Nobel laureate in physics who is co-discoverer of the cosmic microwave background radiation, which helped establish the Big Bang theory of cosmology.
Arno Penzias believed that his research in astronomy showed that the universe exists as a result of a supernatural plan.


From Cosmoquotes:

"Astronomy leads us to an unique event, a universe which was created out of nothing and delicately balanced to provide exactly the conditions required to support life. In the absence of an absurdly-improbable accident, the observations of modern science seem to suggest an underlying, one might say, supernatural plan."

https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers#researchers_penzias

Yes, Arno Allan Penzias was Jewish, he believed in God, he also believed Jesus was not Messiah and a real Messiah ought to come one day and save us all from evil. He was raised Jewish, no scientific research could change his mind set, his dogmatic view of the world and it didn't really matter. He found traces of the Big Bang and he believed in God. The God thing remained a belief even when he said it might be a supernatural plan. The difference between him and Badecker, for example, is he didn't tell the world he found the proof for God, because he didn't. But the most important thing is that it is irrelevant that this physicist believes or not in God. He wasn't alone, Robert Woodrow Wilson was the co-discoverer, he did not believe in a God. Does that mean anything? No. The founder of the Big Bang theory was a catholic priest and he strongly believed this might collapse religion. The pope told him there would be no such thing, he could make it be a dogma in which everyone would have to believe in. Did it matter that he was a catholic priest? Did that change the truth of the theory? No, it did not. Truth acts the same everywhere, scientific discoveries are the same everywhere because they carry truth, based on evidence, on proof. However, something that does not act the same everywhere is religion, the one claiming to hold the truth. There you have a difference between religion and truth. What do you call something that does not act like truth and is not the same everywhere?

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May 14, 2017, 01:30:55 PM
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If I was to be capable of proving to you that does God exist, what would that look? What truth of science would it be based when gathering information? Mathematics, physics, geology, etc. I ask since it seems to me that most Atheists expect the answer to be endowed in science. Or nothing. I had an issue outside about what I believed could be demonstrated by science, and it seems that science cannot solve the enigma; the philosopher's teaching is the more suitable tool.
No, atheists do not expect God to be proved by science. They actually do not expect anything to prove God, since they don't believe in it. Nothing can, actually, prove God since the only way God proves himself is through revelation. Otherwise, even God claims it, it's a matter of pure faith and nothing else more. That is why this topic is flawed from the beginning, it's just deist or creationist topic. The only one keeping it alive and running is the deluded Badecker with his proof of cause and effect, this law of nature that nobody else has ever heard of before. We must kneel to him, because he finally discovered it! Bring in the Nobel Prize!

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