Scientific proof that God exists?

[BADecker]

1. It's proven in the high numbers of examples where complexity always produces something of equal or less complexity. You might suggest that there are a bunch of idiot people who produce offspring of the highest IQ order. However, the programming for such was already in their genes. In other words, high complexity produced low complexity with the ability to produce higher complexity than itself. But in general, there is no high complexity found that is higher than the complexity that preceded it. Such is part of entropy, which at its base, is reduction of complexity.

The idea of throwing a handful of sand into the air to produce complexity is a stupid idea. Rather, as the videos suggest, vibrations were cause to exist in the thing we call empty space, so that complexity was formed. Big Bang was a stab at trying to fathom something way too complex to fathom. Big Bang had no way to take the complexity of thought and all the fundamentals of the subconscious which uphold thought, into account... and a lot of other things, as well. Complexity alone suggests God. When it is combined with cause and effect and entropy, nothing could exist without God.

2. The water cycle has a maker because it is a machine. We simply don't clearly recognize who or where that maker is. Simply because we are too ignorant to find the maker, doesn't mean the cycle doesn't have a maker. Consider the Antikythera mechanism https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2008/dec/11/antikythera-first-computer. Just because we don't know who made it, doesn't mean it popped into existence without a maker. In fact, we don't even know which nation it sprang from for sure. However, it uses the machines of nature in its design and operation. And it is made of the stuff of nature, a machine of machines. We don't know of any machine that factually exists without having had a maker.

3. Nobody can imagine mass production without ever producing more than one of the same thing. While that part of the points wasn't meant to prove God, it certainly shows us a strange method for making similar things in great number, with everything being different although similar. What could do this? the 3 major religions of the world say that there is one God, and that God is one. It seems He has left the idea of "oneness" throughout all of nature, simply to point to Himself as existing.

The things that Nassim Haramein says are foundational. It's not that he is simply telling bedtime stories or something. The things he explains are things of science, things that science has found, that seem to go against possibly the foundations of things that Einstein said. Einstein suggested that space is empty. But there are too many scientific observations that show that space is essentially an elastic solid, made of moving vibrations as Haramein said. That's why Einstein's theories are still theories after nearly a hundred years. There are too many things of science against them.

1. It is not proven that complexity always produces something of equal or less complexity. For example, crystals self-organize from gas or liquid. Also, the life that comes from DNA is much more complex than the DNA itself.

2. I agree that it was wrong to say that the water cycle has no maker, but it is equally wrong to say that the water cycle has a maker. And, since you don't know that the water cycle has a maker, you can't say that every machine has a maker. Your premise is flawed and so your proof is invalid.

Space is not an elastic solid made of moving vibrations. That is nonsense.

Nassim Haramein explains nothing. He speaks only in metaphors, and states nothing that is actually real. Nothing he says can be shown to be true or false because everything he says is a metaphor. It is useless nonsense.

1. That life could even come from the DNA pattern is way more complex than the life itself. Or haven't you looked at the complexity?

Crystals might appear to self-organize, but they simply operate by cause and effect, like everything else. Or do you have proof that they don't?

2. The water cycle is a machine. There are two categories of machines, those we know the maker of, and those we don't know the maker of. There never has been any machine made that didn't have a maker, or do you have proof of no maker rather than an unknown maker?

Space is an elastic solid of a different kind than the kind of solid that we normally consider as solid. This is common knowledge to any scientist who considers wave movement. As waves of the ocean need the ocean material to move as waves, or as sound needs a substance to move through in sound wave form, even so space is a substance that makes itself available to energy waves (electromagnetic waves) so that they can be propagated. Saying it this way is even simpler than Haramein explains it.

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[odolvlobo]

1. That life could even come from the DNA pattern is way more complex than the life itself. Or haven't you looked at the complexity?

Crystals might appear to self-organize, but they simply operate by cause and effect, like everything else. Or do you have proof that they don't?

So then you agree that your statement that complexity always produces less complexity is false.

2. The water cycle is a machine. There are two categories of machines, those we know the maker of, and those we don't know the maker of. There never has been any machine made that didn't have a maker, or do you have proof of no maker rather than an unknown maker?

You can't claim that every machine has a maker because you don't know that the water cycle has a maker.

Space is an elastic solid of a different kind than the kind of solid that we normally consider as solid.

That's just nonsense. What kind of solid is it? What properties does it have that make it a solid?

...so space is a substance that makes itself available to energy waves (electromagnetic waves) so that they can be propagated. Saying it this way is even simpler than Haramein explains it.

The existence of ether was disproved a long time ago.

[Mauser]

Still no scientific proof against the existence of God. Simply play-babies' theory stories and mumblings, as expected from jokers who believe in the religion of science, rather than understanding science.

God exists - there is evidence of it everywhere if you are religious or scientific.  God has no intelligence - god just is.  There is scientific proof the bible is wrong though. 

That is an interesting take on God and religion. I agree that the bible is just wrong because it is not old enough. If there was God 2000 years ago, then there also was a God 4000 years ago and much earlier too. I would like to the foul proof evidence that God exists though.

[BADecker]

1. That life could even come from the DNA pattern is way more complex than the life itself. Or haven't you looked at the complexity?

Crystals might appear to self-organize, but they simply operate by cause and effect, like everything else. Or do you have proof that they don't?

So then you agree that your statement that complexity always produces less complexity is false. - So you prove that you are wrong by not being able to explain what you mean.

2. The water cycle is a machine. There are two categories of machines, those we know the maker of, and those we don't know the maker of. There never has been any machine made that didn't have a maker, or do you have proof of no maker rather than an unknown maker?

You can't claim that every machine has a maker because you don't know that the water cycle has a maker. - There is no machine that has been proven to not have a maker. There are countless numbers of machines that have makers. In science, when the statistics are as high as they are for makers of machines, with zero statistics to oppose this, such is accepted as proof, scientifically.

Space is an elastic solid of a different kind than the kind of solid that we normally consider as solid.

That's just nonsense. What kind of solid is it? What properties does it have that make it a solid? - It's the solid that carries the vibes of energy that make up the elements. You do know that the elements and materials are simply energy vibrations, don't you? Space is full of them. The only reason we don't realize them is that they resonate at all kinds of "frequencies" that are different than the ones "materials" vibrate at.

...so space is a substance that makes itself available to energy waves (electromagnetic waves) so that they can be propagated. Saying it this way is even simpler than Haramein explains it.

The existence of ether was disproved a long time ago.

The existence of the ether as described in the past was disproved. Why? It was incomplete, based on what modern factual science has discovered. Haramein is simply showing the new description of the aether that scientifically fits what exists.

[odolvlobo]

There is no machine that has been proven to not have a maker. There are countless numbers of machines that have makers. In science, when the statistics are as high as they are for makers of machines, with zero statistics to oppose this, such is accepted as proof, scientifically.

I'll just focus on this one to save everyone a lot of unnecessary reading.

There is no machine that has been proven to not have a maker.

You claim that "every machine has a maker". In order to disprove that, I just need to provide a single example of a machine that doesn't support your claim. I don't need to prove the opposite.

The water cycle is such a machine. If you can't demonstrate the maker of the water cycle, then you can't say that every machine has a maker.

You might be able to get away with saying that most machines have makers, so a god might exist. But, you can't say that every machine has a maker, therefore a god exists.

There are countless numbers of machines that have makers. In science, when the statistics are as high as they are for makers of machines, with zero statistics to oppose this, such is accepted as proof, scientifically.

And there may be countless number of machines that can't be shown to have makers, but you just haven't bothered to consider them. So, your attempted use of statistics here is flawed. It's like claiming that all M&Ms are green because you simply ignore the other colors.

[usernameyaya]

I DO NOT believe that there's any scientific proof for God's existence! if there's some proof, it must not is scientific! maybe the one who carried that research believes God so firmly that he distorted the truth or there's some mistake or flaw in his research plan...
I believe in science and God is scientific in no circumstances.

[crypto mushroom]

Today's science is still far behind, it doesn't explain wisdom, love, conscience (what is in each of us, what we develop and what we strive for even if we do not know about it). We just need to combine modern science and faith (not religions, but faith - what is originally - love, conscience and any good).

[BADecker]

Still no scientific proof against the existence of God. Simply play-babies' theory stories and mumblings, as expected from jokers who believe in the religion of science, rather than understanding science.

God exists - there is evidence of it everywhere if you are religious or scientific.  God has no intelligence - god just is.  There is scientific proof the bible is wrong though. 

That is an interesting take on God and religion. I agree that the bible is just wrong because it is not old enough. If there was God 2000 years ago, then there also was a God 4000 years ago and much earlier too. I would like to the foul proof evidence that God exists though.

The Bible starts out talking about God creating the heavens and the earth in the beginning. Moses probably wrote this between 1400 and 1500 BC, the start of the Bible. He wrote it according to God's instruction, but he had the info available from historical writings in Egypt, because he was a Hebrew who happened to be a top prince of Ancient Egypt for the first 40 years of his life.

The Old Testament of the Bible is a record of time back to the beginning. We have two witnesses to the timeline of the earth, listed in the Bible. These are the writings of Josephus from the first century AD, and the Septuagint O.T., originally from around 250 BC. Both were taken from the Hebrew of their days. Both are very similar in their timelines, the Septuagint being a translation of the Hebrew O.T. into Greek.

Why were the Ancient Hebrew people important? Because God took them from the nations of the world, and made them to be important, for His own purposes. They had to keep His words and laws. When they didn't, the Bible record shows how God became angry with them and punished them.

The reason they kept the writings of the Bible pure is because God promised that the Savior of the world would come to us all through them. However, God, Himself, directs the ways things are done, so that His Word is kept pure.

The latest original writings of books of the O.T. were done a little prior to 400 BC.


Part of the reason why there was a need for the Bible in the first place, was because the history record of the world was being corrupted. We can see this right now through modern theoretical science suggesting that the universe is billions of years old, and then through some willful people maintaining these wrong theoretical ideas as truth.

The Septuagint and Josephus both show that the Ancient Hebrew people understood the creation to have been done by God at a time that is only about 7,500 years in the past from our times. This record can be followed through the Bible, into the past, starting with the well-documented fall of Jerusalem to the Babylonians around 587 BC. It isn't easy to follow, but the info is there.

What is wrong with our science that suggests billions of years? Beyond about 5,000 years back, there is only assumption about how old things are. We can only date pottery back this far. There are flaws in carbon dating and other similar dating methods. There is controversy in the dates of the various ancient nations that are recorded in their timelines in their ancient writings on walls and clay tablets.

The Bible is a clear flowing, living record that goes back to Moses, and expresses the history of the world since the beginning, right down to times that we can follow until today. We don't have to believe the Bible record timeline. If we put down our desires to believe our theoretical science, we can see the Bible timeline facts.

[Call me Fada]

There's no point for this post, OP I understand we are all entitled to our opinions but we don't need any scientific evidence to prove a point if there's God or not.. it's crystal clear enough that there's a Good. Not just a Good but Almighty God. Our supreme Creator.  This is not acceptable to me..
Thank you.

[BADecker]

^^^ There's no point in talking about the hydrogen atomic status of the sun, either. After all, the sun is electric - https://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/.

But since most scientists keep on talking like the sun is nuclear, a few of us tell it like it is. Why not God consideration?

[Pachacouti]

C'mon bro's, I thought you could do better than that, I already stated, NO-ONE can either prove or disprove scientificley, the existance or non-existance of god, but read the last sentence of this post for the ONLY proof you will receive.

So many BRO's repeating the same old trash, again, to bury the truth's I have discovered, in the hope no-one reads what I wrote, but i get more response's from people who do NOT repeat the same old trash, the same old f(e)aces, using confuse and lose tactics, all to try to BURY the fact god'(s) exist.

It's like this. We are imprisoned on this earth. By the so called 'creator gods' - note they are not GOD.

Without GOD your new universe will be of utter darkness, the wiccan masonic goal. Note they agree the universe will be destroyed. This means they have to be somewhere ELSE in order to come back into the new universe they speak of, how insane is that?

Cant see what's eating you?

Those low life's that sacrifice babies to lucifer, Oh the audacity, bombing whatever they can in their search for the thousand years of peace that wont happen until they are all dead... oh, that's right, they already are. The corona virus is here for THEM, just like in war of the worlds. Nature fighting back.

Indigionous peoples all over the world being wiped out, while those charitable claim they are helping them, just as they always do before a stealth invasion, just pay attention, the protocols of zion clearly state they'll make us BEG for whatever it is they will make us BEG for. Of course the protocols are, wait for it, FAKE news... not...

Then there's the fact everyone on tv is specifically chosen due to siding with the desired responses... appearing seperate, but never devided in the past, until now. Now they have to maintain 2 meters distance... haha... wear your masks to hide the serpent smile, that comes with new muscles either side of chin, watch your business disappear, as well as your job. And your money. Oh by the way, watch the side effects of a vaccine that modifies your genetic structure, and does NOT prevent it spreading what so ever.

Bitcoin wont save you when the internet is turned off, will it? So many countries doing this now.

The upside down pentagon seen in almost all truely terrorist countries is upside down. How many cops get away with murder? Look at their badge, they're goin down. Received lots of charity? For example, look at the american flag, the star intentionally slightly off center, making the star appear downwards, just like the cop badges, you see, in their upside down world, to them, this is the right way up, just like in the movie dark tower, the keyholes are, well, upside down, and here's the kicker... you did know that the retina's of the eye's show normal people the right way up earth, but wiccan masons no longer see with the eye's of body, so their world is upside down, science has proved this.

Just listen to those firstborn sacrificers pretend they loved their child who was gunned down. Ask them, why are you crying, your deal is done, you killed your child in the most cowardley way... you sent someone else to do it the minute you did your deal, so stop crying, shut up, be happy, now your deal is done! It's over, go have another... with someone else of course. Have some money to give back to these beast's called brethren.

I mean c'mon again, look to america, vote for deplorable clinton, or trump, both in the same party promoting the exact same policies, by being in the same party, how more stupid can you get yankee theif? Now you got a drug dealer for president, ah, the upside down morality of it all, it's just so wrong... God not listening? As the wiccan masons say, your just as guilty of their crimes by doing nothing.


Oh look, here I am, a true child of the light, antagonist to the dark brothers (of wiccan masonic witchcraft) taken from the emerald tablets.

Dont like it? Are the four still alive? ah well...

Scientific proof of god? Are you denied all service's for not BELIEVING in THEIR god JaBoulOn?

Test the theory, I did.

God IS listening, but he has no time for those who do nothing to help THEMSELVES.

Go(o)d always wins.

[BADecker]

^^^ As you stated, nobody can prove the existence or non-existence of God by not proving it.

Keep on talking in muddled ways about junk that doesn't really exist, and you will only prove how muddled your thinking is.

[We Are People]

God is everything. Those who think that God is only good are mistaken. God as goodness, love, etc. is just one side of God. God is both good and evil. God is me, God is you. We are just parts of one whole. Now for us this is incomprehensible, because it was conceived by ourselves for our development, and because it is fun to play the game for a character like me or you.

And for all this, no proof is needed, because I know that I am, and I know there is something around me. So I (God) exist.

[odolvlobo]

God is everything. Those who think that God is only good are mistaken. God as goodness, love, etc. is just one side of God. God is both good and evil. God is me, God is you.

That's a bunch of meaningless nonsense. Poetic perhaps, but otherwise it has no meaning.

[Pachacouti]

^^^ As you stated, nobody can prove the existence or non-existence of God by not proving it.

Keep on talking in muddled ways about junk that doesn't really exist, and you will only prove how muddled your thinking is.

Says the baby sacrificer that hopes jesus will destroy this galaxy, create another, and save him, without explaining where they go while the new one is being created. Says BADecker who believes a half human, half angel need's saving... Do I sound muddled to you? This is intentional, it's for those with eye's to see the truth hidden between the lines I write, knowing masons are pissed with me for revealing, in my earth monkey aquarian way, their TRUTH.

Muddled ways.... oh boy, seems you and your bum chums are ever so muddled with your clearly off topic answers, arguing about science as opposed to proof of GOD, arguing about masonic knowledge, taken from masonic books, those masons that cant even find a cure for a virus that's out to get them... notice the same names in this thread, always rinsing and repeating the same bullshit, none of which leads anyone to anywhere BUT finding proof. Not one of them has actually responded to paths that lead to the truth... always coming back to the same 'we know science, but cant prove anything other than our masonic' bullshit, bullshit FORCED on people in an education system designed for masonic paedo's to teach... confuse and lose, education.

Teaching what will never actually be used by 99% of those this education is forced on.

Notice not ONCE have any of these same NAMES, or members of this site, reacted positively to answers regarded as truth by the majority of human beings. Oh, and dont forget the science lol. Hear BADecker speak of living to three hundred years. That's easy, BREATH. (properly) Hear BADecker's answer to the sequoia tree's living for 10.000 years and more... (still waiting) Hear BADecker's answer to Pinus Longavious living in excess of 27.000 years (even these tree's are bored waiting on BADeckers answer...) Remember, according to his book, ALL living things DIED. He says nothing of the NEPHILIM that survived the flood, and to quote the bible, there were giant's in those day's, even AFTER the flood. He says nothing of the NEPHILIM, because the NEPHELIM are half human, half ANGEL. And he is scared of them. To afraid to speak of them, world ender's.

BADecker wont admit, jesus was not the son of the one true god who can traverse the circle, as only he (that GOD) can. In fact, he wont admit that SET, a GOD of DEATH is a combination of THREE god's, Jahweh, (Jesus's father, and 7th from the throne of the almighty GOD who CAN traverse the circle, yahweh CANNOT traverse the circle.), BAAL, the cananite diety who DEMANDS child sacrifice, and cooked women in a brass bull, while alive, and ON, aka Osiris. The women were burnt for causing adam to eat the apple, correct? Man blaming woman for his eating of the apple, or quite simply, eating from the tree of knowledge. This is why women will never gain power if freemasonry has anything to say about it. Oh, but wait, now we have the women's version of freemasonry, lot's of little wiccan witch covens going by the names of Northern, or Eastern star, to name a few... lot's of little deplorable clintons being refused presidency over, well, anyone.

In the movie gods of egypt, GOD is killed by SET, and while set impails GOD on a spear, (just like jesus was, note the angle of spear) GOD state's this is impossible, no god can kill a god, to which SET replies, I'm not just ONE god. They dont put secret's like these in movies for just anyone with eye's to see and ear's to hear. They are publicly broadcasting their so called secret's, so proud have they become of their world domination, but hey, there's hope... pride comes before their fall.

And now for an empiracle truth. In the movie risen, jesus walks with the roman, up a hill, as they talk, a hoard of bat's circle them. THIS is a clue, jesus did a deal with the de'il, (as did the catholic church, sacrifing all their follower's in the hope of containing EVIL) and hence forsake'd his father. Vlad the impailer, aka, vlad dracul, aka dracula, is the queen of britains great great great great great grandfather. Hence ike's truthful claim to them being of a serpent race, for they gave away the higher monkey inelligence in exchange for the base serpent intelligence, both inherent in man. The monkey creates fear to save you from your base serpent intelligence which is the pure evil in man.

Notice how the serpent will stand by while it's young are devoured by another serpent, and do nothing.

The good thing is, they are of lower intelligence, and hence require technology.

It is TRUE that the masonic god, JABOULON is JAHWEH, BAAL, and ON.

And they know it.

This is proof of GOD alone.

But it's not scientific. Forget the bitcoiners claims to know science, reading from their brethrens books of lies.

Let them show proof without their brethrens books.

They CANT.

But I HAVE shown how to see proof for yourself.

The aliens you all seek, are naught but the oldest vampires.

The universe is mental.

And they are in YOUR mind.

[Renampun]

God is everything. Those who think that God is only good are mistaken. God as goodness, love, etc. is just one side of God. God is both good and evil. God is me, God is you.

That's a bunch of meaningless nonsense. Poetic perhaps, but otherwise it has no meaning.

I wonder where he or she got this poem 'lol'...
God is god and I or you are not god. If I am a god then I can teleport anywhere even to your place because God is miraculous and cannot be described by the mind.

[Pachacouti]

God is everything. Those who think that God is only good are mistaken. God as goodness, love, etc. is just one side of God. God is both good and evil. God is me, God is you.

That's a bunch of meaningless nonsense. Poetic perhaps, but otherwise it has no meaning.

I wonder where he or she got this poem 'lol'...
God is god and I or you are not god. If I am a god then I can teleport anywhere even to your place because God is miraculous and cannot be described by the mind.

Your nearly there! How does ESP work?

All points in time and space are connected.

Now read again what you wrote.

[Pachacouti]

I'd like to say god is in all of us, but those who have sold their soul have relegated themselves to NAUGHT.

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The BROS's like to describe themselves as seeing through the eye's of, or being god. Now those that have not sold their soul can take faith in the fact that when they die, they BECOME the god that those who sold their soul claim to be part of, until they die. Then they burn.

[BADecker]

^^^ As you stated, nobody can prove the existence or non-existence of God by not proving it.

Keep on talking in muddled ways about junk that doesn't really exist, and you will only prove how muddled your thinking is.

Says the baby sacrificer that hopes jesus will destroy this galaxy, create another, and save him, without explaining where they go while the new one is being created.

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Says the Bible, which is the Word of God.

Nobody can explain anything that is outside of the universe. Outside is so different that the word "different" doesn't have any meaning. If it were in the least bit understandable, it would be part of the universe, and not outside it.

    

[kay-cee]

Bible is just a book written by man, not word of god. Anybody that thinks otherwise is delusional.