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December 27, 2015, 10:40:02 PM
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LOL, How things have changed.

I don't know, I personally find it rather disconcerting if users in the chain can be identified. For example, it wouldn't be enough for me to simply get bitcoins at an exchange, send them to a random address, and then use them from that point on. Your identity would still be linked. However, given the public nature of the transactions, I'm not sure if there is any way around this.

I'm sure somebody somewhere would/will be happy to sell you bitcoins anonymously; just put cash and a bitcoin receiving address in an envelope and mail it.  The exchange (who you'd have to trust to actually send you the coins) takes the cash and send coins to the address.  They have no idea who you are, and your identity isn't linked to the coins.

Well, it isn't linked to the coins until you forget to turn on TOR or I2P before spending coins on something illegal.  Or you remain completely and utterly anonymous right up until you spend coins on something physical and have it shipped to your home address.  Or you arrange to have contraband "dead dropped" somewhere, and you get arrested when you go to pick it up.

None of which have anything to do with Bitcoins, and all of which seem to me to be more likely ways of getting into trouble than somebody managing to figure out that "transaction for purchase of illegal stuff" is linked to "Gavin purchased a bunch of Bitcoins from Bobby's Discount Bitcoin Emporium" last year.


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December 28, 2015, 07:20:40 AM
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If you are looking for more resources talking about bitcoin being not anonymous, you can have a look here: http://www.bitcoinisnotanonymous.com/


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December 28, 2015, 10:25:44 AM
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If you are looking for more resources talking about bitcoin being not anonymous, you can have a look here: http://www.bitcoinisnotanonymous.com/




Nice link

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December 29, 2015, 02:09:19 PM
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Xmr is certainly a poor vehicle for speculation lately, as its value is remarkably stable.  This only improves its qualifications as a transactional medium and store of value, where its long term value proposition lies.

In other news, the bottom appears to be in on wheat, with very clear timing signals, and I am doubling long.

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day.  Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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December 29, 2015, 03:03:20 PM
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Xmr is certainly a poor vehicle for speculation lately, as its value is remarkably stable.  This only improves its qualifications as a transactional medium and store of value, where its long term value proposition lies.

In other news, the bottom appears to be in on wheat, with very clear timing signals, and I am doubling long.

How do you do that, do you buy futures?
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December 29, 2015, 06:53:32 PM
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How do you do that, do you buy futures?

Futures, swaps, futures options or swap options are all feasible and each has its place.  In this case, I prefer a complex ratio option on the futures, to gain on both premium and speculation, but YMMV.  If you wish to start speculating on soft commodities, I suggest Interactive Brokers for U.S. / U.K. punters.  $10k will open a U.S. futures speculation account, but 30k is easier to work with.  When starting I suggest no more than 2x leverage, and no option trades, until you are have endured one or two adverse 5 sigma moves.  Which, counter-intuitively, should not take but a few months, given current market stresses, and the totally broken state of the primary global market risk measures (interest rates). If you are new to this, keep in mind that everything about the system is designed to take your money.  You will be a guppy amongst the sharks, until you can grow some teeth.  Then you will be a teeny, tiny little shark, amongst the great whites.

Up from 467 to 475½ now, intraday.  I will scale down a bit at 480, then let the rest of my exposure ride for a week or two, if the monkey is right.





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December 30, 2015, 02:42:00 AM
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Xmr is certainly a poor vehicle for speculation lately, as its value is remarkably stable.  This only improves its qualifications as a transactional medium and store of value, where its long term value proposition lies.

The bolded part of your quote makes me happy. Merchant adoption and wider use is my focus right now. I suspect 0.9 will help with both of these goals

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December 30, 2015, 02:47:34 AM
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Xmr is certainly a poor vehicle for speculation lately, as its value is remarkably stable.  This only improves its qualifications as a transactional medium and store of value, where its long term value proposition lies.

The bolded part of your quote makes me happy. Merchant adoption and wider use is my focus right now. I suspect 0.9 will help with both of these goals

Any idea when 0.9 might come out

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December 30, 2015, 08:10:11 AM
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How do you do that, do you buy futures?

Futures, swaps, futures options or swap options are all feasible and each has its place.  In this case, I prefer a complex ratio option on the futures, to gain on both premium and speculation, but YMMV.  If you wish to start speculating on soft commodities, I suggest Interactive Brokers for U.S. / U.K. punters.  $10k will open a U.S. futures speculation account, but 30k is easier to work with.  When starting I suggest no more than 2x leverage, and no option trades, until you are have endured one or two adverse 5 sigma moves.  Which, counter-intuitively, should not take but a few months, given current market stresses, and the totally broken state of the primary global market risk measures (interest rates). If you are new to this, keep in mind that everything about the system is designed to take your money.  You will be a guppy amongst the sharks, until you can grow some teeth.  Then you will be a teeny, tiny little shark, amongst the great whites.

Up from 467 to 475½ now, intraday.  I will scale down a bit at 480, then let the rest of my exposure ride for a week or two, if the monkey is right.


You are full of it..
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December 30, 2015, 08:17:43 AM
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Xmr is certainly a poor vehicle for speculation lately, as its value is remarkably stable.  This only improves its qualifications as a transactional medium and store of value, where its long term value proposition lies.

The bolded part of your quote makes me happy. Merchant adoption and wider use is my focus right now. I suspect 0.9 will help with both of these goals

Any idea when 0.9 might come out

The last estimate/guess I heard of was Mid January:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3ycn36/any_guesses_as_to_when_the_next_version_of_monero/cycbxic


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December 30, 2015, 08:45:10 AM
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You are full of it..
Bearish wheat, are we?

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December 30, 2015, 11:59:39 AM
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DASH is now back to where it was before the btc pump, monero soon to go below .001...

Conspiracy theory , monero developers (ponny, smooth) are on someone's payroll to stagnate development, postpone the release of updates submitted by others for as long as they can.



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December 30, 2015, 12:06:31 PM
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Conspiracy theory , monero developers are on someone's payroll to stagnate development, postpone the release of updates submitted by others for as long as they can.

Pay someone to develop something you don't want anybody to use? Genius!  Roll Eyes
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December 30, 2015, 12:08:49 PM
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DASH is now back to where it was before the btc pump, monero soon to go below .001...

Conspiracy theory , monero developers (ponny, smooth) are on someone's payroll to stagnate development, postpone the release of updates submitted by others for as long as they can.





No it isn't, DASH was floating between 0.01 and 0.011 before the BTC run-up. The XMR/DASH has been relatively stable over time, floating somewhere between 1:5 - 1:6. However, seems to be breaking out a bit currently. Hopefully we can manage to get back into that area.

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December 30, 2015, 02:20:59 PM
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Hopefully we can manage to get back into that area.

Well,  if anyone actually starts using d I can't imagine it will take very long to clarify the quality of its privacy assurances, and their socio-contextual epistemics.

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December 30, 2015, 03:11:16 PM
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DASH 0.0094 , XMR 0.00102
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December 30, 2015, 04:00:12 PM
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DASH 0.0094 , XMR 0.00102

That's some serious pump for dash with high volume , lets see how much of that goes into new masternodes.

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December 30, 2015, 04:28:01 PM
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monero developers (ponny, smooth) are on someone's payroll to stagnate development

Shit, primer- you weren't supposed to tell anyone about paying us.
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December 30, 2015, 05:39:30 PM
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DASH 0.0094 , XMR 0.00102

That's some serious pump for dash with high volume , lets see how much of that goes into new masternodes.

Thats the brilliant part of the dash scam.  So much liquidity is locked in masternodes and not available for trading on exchanges that it drastically reduces downward pressure on price.

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December 30, 2015, 06:56:10 PM
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0.0097 XBT has been an area of resistance then support then resistance for Dash going back to September 2014 if not earlier. If it is not broken on the upside it will simply mean more resistance in this area. What is significant is that there has been no impact at all on the price of XMR unlike what happened in March of this year when a sudden drop in the price of Dash led to an immediate rise in the price of XMR. My take is that the price of XMR will be driven by its own fundamentals rather than what happens with Dash.

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