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August 11, 2018, 10:32:11 PM
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The patterns we have relied on when early adopter "whales" with no trading specialization were able to pump and dump reliably are no longer in control of the market.

I disagree.  The major p&d cycle that made us wealthy is still there, and will remain there until the adoption curve slows significantly.  That has happened in several coins, but has not yet happened in Monero.  It has to rise simply because the fundamental value continues to rise.

I was thinking in terms of the broader market, specifically bitcoin which seems to be driving the prevailing crypto currency down trend. My theory is a suspicion at best, based on analysis of pedestrian information sources, and is clearly unsubstantiated. I would love to have access to the data at the big exchanges. I am happy to be corrected and defer to you analysis.
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The patterns we have relied on when early adopter "whales" with no trading specialization were able to pump and dump reliably are no longer in control of the market.

I disagree.  The major p&d cycle that made us wealthy is still there, and will remain there until the adoption curve slows significantly.  That has happened in several coins, but has not yet happened in Monero.  It has to rise simply because the fundamental value continues to rise.

I was thinking in terms of the broader market, specifically bitcoin which seems to be driving the prevailing crypto currency down trend. My theory is a suspicion at best, based on analysis of pedestrian information sources, and is clearly unsubstantiated. I would love to have access to the data at the big exchanges. I am happy to be corrected and defer to you analysis.

It's almost obvious that in addition to global market manipulation that is going on there are a lot of net sellers in the world of ICO projects. That influences the markets the most and helps the bears to rule so easily. But regarding to Monero that can not be sustained for too long. As usually it will rise wild as it used to in unexpected time.  All we need is patience. I do not sell any single XMR before it goes to the moon. ICOs got more than 8 billion dollars just in the last quarter. They received them mostly in ETH and BTC. They had to sell some. No other options to operate especially in a downtrend. Soon we will have a lot of dead coins again and less options to invest for gain. Monero will be one of the few to survive.

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August 12, 2018, 03:18:57 AM
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I'm betting I'm not the only one who has been disillusioned that CCs are a hedge against money devaluation--seems Turkey's problems are our problems as well. My guess is that the market is derived by how much investor money can be allocated for high risk investments and not consumer demand, so maximalist's thumping their Bibles and claiming that BTC will overtake the dollar is extra funny for me today. People don't run to the experimental technology in times of chaos, they run to the side of whoever has the most thermal nuclear weapons and aircraft carriers.

I really think this is the last accumulation point before the institutions will just rule the entire market starting Q1 2019. I think Monero is getting stomped by those new Hybrid FPGA's and those miners are going to regret not holding. they are trying ROI instead of holding for the next leg up.



Doesn't matter I still buy every week I can, 3 weeks since january I didn't buy I bought something else to try to roll over for m0ar XMR and 2 of them boned me. Cheesy

I also think it is interesting to note that BTC has coincidentally been falling in direct proportion to tethers not being created. Smiley





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It's almost obvious that in addition to global market manipulation that is going on there are a lot of net sellers in the world of ICO projects. That influences the markets the most and helps the bears to rule so easily. But regarding to Monero that can not be sustained for too long. As usually it will rise wild as it used to in unexpected time.  All we need is patience. I do not sell any single XMR before it goes to the moon. ICOs got more than 8 billion dollars just in the last quarter. They received them mostly in ETH and BTC. They had to sell some. No other options to operate especially in a downtrend. Soon we will have a lot of dead coins again and less options to invest for gain. Monero will be one of the few to survive.

agreed;
it seems that we are "digesting" the big 2017 ICOs, who have drained many newcomers and thus changed the landscape, without bringing much innovation.
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August 12, 2018, 03:21:05 PM
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Interesting slide about the cryptocurrencies Bitmain claims to hold in the context of their IPO: https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1028426579158884352

Monero isn't explicitly mentioned, although Bitmain probably used to mine monero with their Antminer X3 I think.

Perhaps off-topic here, but I think it's also interesting to point out that they acquired 179,450 BCC between 31-DEC-17 and 31-MAR-18. That's more than the total amount of bcc that have come into circulation in that period  Shocked
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Interesting slide about the cryptocurrencies Bitmain claims to hold in the context of their IPO: https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1028426579158884352

Monero isn't explicitly mentioned, although Bitmain probably used to mine monero with their Antminer X3 I think.

Perhaps off-topic here, but I think it's also interesting to point out that they acquired 179,450 BCC between 31-DEC-17 and 31-MAR-18. That's more than the total amount of bcc that have come into circulation in that period  Shocked


Like half million XMR was mined in time that Bitman mined Monero with ASIC. At best if not sold any could get half of that half million.   But for sure they have plenty of XMO

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August 12, 2018, 04:16:17 PM
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It's almost obvious that in addition to global market manipulation that is going on there are a lot of net sellers in the world of ICO projects. That influences the markets the most and helps the bears to rule so easily. But regarding to Monero that can not be sustained for too long. As usually it will rise wild as it used to in unexpected time.  All we need is patience. I do not sell any single XMR before it goes to the moon. ICOs got more than 8 billion dollars just in the last quarter. They received them mostly in ETH and BTC. They had to sell some. No other options to operate especially in a downtrend. Soon we will have a lot of dead coins again and less options to invest for gain. Monero will be one of the few to survive.

agreed;
it seems that we are "digesting" the big 2017 ICOs, who have drained many newcomers and thus changed the landscape, without bringing much innovation.

No loss, they were not cypherpunks but get rich quick schemers. Anyone that joins these bitconnect type scams is an idiot and didn't do any due diligence and I have no sympathy for them and will not miss them. We warn them and if they don't listen then they make their own bed and when they are crying because they are lying in it hopefully that is when they will realize why they are there.


Interesting slide about the cryptocurrencies Bitmain claims to hold in the context of their IPO: https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1028426579158884352

Monero isn't explicitly mentioned, although Bitmain probably used to mine monero with their Antminer X3 I think.

Perhaps off-topic here, but I think it's also interesting to point out that they acquired 179,450 BCC between 31-DEC-17 and 31-MAR-18. That's more than the total amount of bcc that have come into circulation in that period  Shocked

Here's a great article on it.

https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/bitmain-pre-ipo-investor-deck-reveals-huge-btc-for-bch-bitcoin-swap-are-they-going-broke-as-a-result/

I'd love to see bitmain die, I bet they are mining and dumping XMR right now with the first batch of those hybrid FPGA's. And thats why everyone elses orders got pushed back.

http://www.semiconnet.co.kr/channel_micro.html?menu=video_sub&com_no=771&video_id=8498&cate_no=11&cate_name=FPGA




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August 12, 2018, 04:52:12 PM
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I hope to soon post here a chart or table showing the amounts of moneros traded at any given price level (0-50k, 50-100k, etc.). In my opinion, monero has during all its exchange history been a rangebound coin. The all-time-weighted-average is about 400k, and most of the trade has been conducted at a narrow range of 300-500k. When the range is definitely broken, there is no knowing what the next trading range would be.

Despite the fact that this situation contributes to the inflow of newcomers to the crypto-currency market, to determine the future in the near future, the asset is very difficult

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I hope to soon post here a chart or table showing the amounts of moneros traded at any given price level (0-50k, 50-100k, etc.). In my opinion, monero has during all its exchange history been a rangebound coin. The all-time-weighted-average is about 400k, and most of the trade has been conducted at a narrow range of 300-500k. When the range is definitely broken, there is no knowing what the next trading range would be.

Despite the fact that this situation contributes to the inflow of newcomers to the crypto-currency market, to determine the future in the near future, the asset is very difficult

Interesting, is this account being run by a B0t? This quote gets replied to by b0ts alot. I wonder if it scans replies and reports responces that mention B*O*T's? Thats why I replied by spelling that with a "0"(zero) instead of a "o". Lets not give the b0t creators input on how to adjust them to avoid detection.

If it is then I would not have known if it had replied to a recent post, I would have just assumed it was not a native english speaker.

I don't have the time to research it's post history but if anyone else does then please post your findings.

I checked an indeed it looks like a bot that was started by a Russian speaker posting in a off topic section and then handed off. Reported.

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when do we go to mars?
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August 14, 2018, 12:54:01 AM
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when do we go to mars?

Come on. You should know this one.    We can only go to Mars when it gets closes to Earth. That is every 26 months. Until then all we can do now is wait! 

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when do we go to mars?

the rocket is refueling atm  Grin
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Shall we play a game

Why are Easter eggs being put out?

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Interesting slide about the cryptocurrencies Bitmain claims to hold in the context of their IPO: https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/1028426579158884352

Monero isn't explicitly mentioned, although Bitmain probably used to mine monero with their Antminer X3 I think.

Perhaps off-topic here, but I think it's also interesting to point out that they acquired 179,450 BCC between 31-DEC-17 and 31-MAR-18. That's more than the total amount of bcc that have come into circulation in that period  Shocked


Like half million XMR was mined in time that Bitman mined Monero with ASIC. At best if not sold any could get half of that half million.   But for sure they have plenty of XMO

In the recent IPO report of Bitmain, it seems Bitmain does not have mined any Monero.
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In the recent IPO report of Bitmain, it seems Bitmain does not have mined any Monero.

How would we know if that was true? 

Hang on... I suppose we could look it up in the Monero rich list... Wink


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August 14, 2018, 12:18:13 PM
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In the recent IPO report of Bitmain, it seems Bitmain does not have mined any Monero.

How would we know if that was true?  

Hang on... I suppose we could look it up in the Monero rich list... Wink



Or you can lookup their monero addresses they've left on their CN ASICs against public pools. But I bet they've mined and dumped as they were mining during bull market.

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when do we go to mars?

Just Mars?  XMR is gonna slap BTC behind the head and show what real crypto should be.  I mean BTC has made some unintended mistakes along the way but Monero is here to learn from them then avoid them.

The hard fork to break Bitmain's ASIC's is one good example.

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August 14, 2018, 02:23:20 PM
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I can't remember the last time I saw this much blood in the water.

I hope all these fucking Eth shitstains go down the drain and people stop buying that crap.

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August 14, 2018, 02:29:01 PM
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In the recent IPO report of Bitmain, it seems Bitmain does not have mined any Monero.

How would we know if that was true? 

Hang on... I suppose we could look it up in the Monero rich list... Wink



i bet they mined with asics before the fork Wink lol

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August 14, 2018, 02:31:05 PM
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I can't remember the last time I saw this much blood in the water.

I hope all these fucking Eth shitstains go down the drain and people stop buying that crap.

Yeah, it's a weird combination of pain and schadenfreude.
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