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August 30, 2018, 06:18:21 PM
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Nice one thank you, even the uptrend is slightly argumented  Grin

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Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time and $25 billions already next year Shocked

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August 30, 2018, 06:49:58 PM
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Notice that in one model they have ADA increasing by 4270% and in another it's essentially worthless.  It's also hard to imagine that so many of these coins will be around or have any value in 5 years. The summary does claim that: "Currency and Privacy networks will be the largest beneficiaries, as most fundamental value will stem from store of value use cases"
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August 30, 2018, 06:50:47 PM
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Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time. Hmmm

I think they are understating the case, but what i find interesting is this -->


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August 30, 2018, 08:17:56 PM
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Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time. Hmmm

I think they are understating the case, but what i find interesting is this -->


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They see value of crypto mainly in crypto money so is logical that their back grounding is from banking.   Some figures are strange. They summed Monero marketcap wrong or they made mistake at price. I would not be surprised if they made so big mistake that actuall Monero prices are x10 times lower.

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August 30, 2018, 09:04:32 PM
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Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time. Hmmm

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They see value of crypto mainly in crypto money so is logical that their back grounding is from banking.   Some figures are strange. They summed Monero marketcap wrong or they made mistake at price. I would not be surprised if they made so big mistake that actuall Monero prices are x10 times lower.

Yeeeaaahh, well, what i personally find very interesting in the report, is the privacy factor they are taking into account!

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The largest upside we see in the entire cryptoasset market is in the Privacy sector. Although Privacy networks are newer entrants,we believe the network effects seen from the likes of BTC earlier on will be repeated within dominant coins here. Not only do these coins  target  the  same  large  and  lower  velocity  store  of  value  market as BTC  and  Currencies,  they present  a much  deeper  value proposition within those markets. As we stated above, the largest drivers of adoption within these networks will be continued pressure from capital controls, currency devaluation, and broader global turmoil. The use cases within the Privacy markets are incredibly sticky and feed on adoption, especially when regulators and law enforcement are making efforts to increase forensic penetration into public networks like BTC. Privacy networks do lack liquidity when compared to more commonly used Currencies, but they excel in and push the extremes of each use case within Currency networks.  Recently, we have already seen early signs of adoption by some of these cryptoassets; ransoms being posted to large corporations where even BTC could be tracked and was not the preferred method, money laundering, and asset shielding. Looking into the space, we believe the use cases that target the largest endmarkets will primarily use XMR (~60%) and ZEC (~20%). Despite developers and executives associated with these projects declining to comment upon illegal use (to avoid legal ramifications), the largest opportunity within the Privacy networks will be unlawful activities. Considering the nature of the use cases,  the Privacy market user  base will  most  likely  rely on networks  that  have  more  active  codebase  development, more resistance to centralized control (possibly through mining), a growing ecosystem, and growing user base. Not only is XMR far more active in codebase development (prior report,pg. 20) and resistant to centralized mining efforts, it is fungible. While ZEC has an easier time being traded in regulated markets (since it has privacy features by request, not by default), we believe this will be a setback to adoption by darker markets, which prefer networks that are fungible (where  more addresses use privacy than those which do not, making it more difficult to track down/blacklist tainted addresses). Only ~5% of the ZEC network uses “shielded” (or private) addresses currently, with the rest of the addresses being used for transactions functionally and technically no different than BTC.
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Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time. Hmmm

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They see value of crypto mainly in crypto money so is logical that their back grounding is from banking.   Some figures are strange. They summed Monero marketcap wrong or they made mistake at price. I would not be surprised if they made so big mistake that actuall Monero prices are x10 times lower.

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my money (about 3 bucks) is on Monero.
Whoa, high roller!
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Overall I think they are pessimistic. in 10 years all cryptomarket marketcap only 3.5T. But they are extremely optimistic about Monero Not that I mind but still.  $750 billions of Monero marketcap in 10 years time. Hmmm

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They see value of crypto mainly in crypto money so is logical that their back grounding is from banking.   Some figures are strange. They summed Monero marketcap wrong or they made mistake at price. I would not be surprised if they made so big mistake that actuall Monero prices are x10 times lower.

Figures don't lie but lairs figure. Cheesy

Yeeeaaahhh, that's a point  Roll Eyes Shocked Grin

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August 31, 2018, 07:39:15 AM
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The full analysis for lazies: https://research.bloomberg.com/pub/res/d37g1yWebn9LbRbS09rquSuSoDQ

In term of BTC they think XMR will reach ~0.04BTC in 1y, ~0.09BTC in 3y, ~0.18BTC in 5y and ~0.27BTC in 10y.
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August 31, 2018, 09:06:52 AM
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xmr going up?

no more cheap xmr to buy anymore!?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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xmr going up?

no more cheap xmr to buy anymore!?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Smells like it  Cheesy

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I think it's impossible to predict exact numbers like that. It's just funny to do this.
I think "researches" like this don't take into account human aspect/psychology and big events that are hard or almost impossible to predict. I. e. If the economic crisis would come and FIAT foundations would be doubted, we finally have working alternatives. And if people would recognize crypto currencies as an alternative for spending and also saving this can make a huge upward move in adoption (which also reflects in price). I can't think of any other asset/number which could also work for everyday use in today world.
On the other hand people could also be convinced that crypto is scam, shit, not working at all etc. but I think this can't happen on long term because of the strong supporters of crypto - who will never stop trusting blockchain (because they actually knows how it works). The only thing that could really threaten trust in blockchain is bug, programming failure.

xmr going up?
no more cheap xmr to buy anymore!?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
Yes.
Only god knows/time will show. Smiley

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I think it's impossible to predict exact numbers like that. It's just funny to do this.
I think "researches" like this don't take into account human aspect/psychology and big events that are hard or almost impossible to predict. I. e. If the economic crisis would come and FIAT foundations would be doubted, we finally have working alternatives. And if people would recognize crypto currencies as an alternative for spending and also saving this can make a huge upward move in adoption (which also reflects in price). I can't think of any other asset/number which could also work for everyday use in today world.
On the other hand people could also be convinced that crypto is scam, shit, not working at all etc. but I think this can't happen on long term because of the strong supporters of crypto - who will never stop trusting blockchain (because they actually knows how it works). The only thing that could really threaten trust in blockchain is bug, programming failure.

xmr going up?
no more cheap xmr to buy anymore!?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
Yes.
Only god knows/time will show. Smiley

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August 31, 2018, 10:01:06 AM
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xmr going up?

no more cheap xmr to buy anymore!?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

You still can buy before 0.27BTC Grin
You missed DOGE as well.
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August 31, 2018, 10:09:13 AM
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monero is my favorite coin, i like coinhive javascrypt to.

and i think monero have great pottential
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August 31, 2018, 10:30:40 AM
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xmr going up?

no more cheap xmr to buy anymore!?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

You still can buy before 0.27BTC Grin
You missed DOGE as well.

Yeeaaaahhh  Grin Tongue

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August 31, 2018, 12:50:56 PM
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Ya bitches going to the moon  Kiss

Wow, what a statement  Shocked

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August 31, 2018, 12:55:22 PM
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xmr going up?

no more cheap xmr to buy anymore!?  Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

You still can buy before 0.27BTC Grin
You missed DOGE as well.


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my money (about 3 bucks) is on Monero.
Whoa, high roller!

Well I could say I have thousands of Monero...  but who would believe that?
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