[XMR] Monero Speculation

[Hueristic]

Basically all I see this doing is pushing Moneros timeline back a few years but when it pops out on its own it will explode and not return. Which is not a big deal as all the original holders have all made their investment returns (except idiots like me and those that got scammed).

Exactly. Monetary status will emerge from economic realities, not marketing and exchange listings. The race is to building an unstopable and uncensorable protocol, not who can secure the best backroom deals for exchange listings with their pre-mine. Anyone use verge on PornHub yet?   The monero devs are squarely focused on what matters: hardening the protocol.

We are watching the nascent steps of this monetary status emerge in literal slow motion. It's going to be painful sometimes. Such is the nature of watching exponential growth from a human perspective fixed to about 0.2 seconds.

Chinese police bust a World Cup gambling ring with more than $1 billion in cryptocurrency

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17569006/world-cup-gambling-ring-china-police-cryptocurrency


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[Billy Bunter]

I wish to fuck FP would stay off Twitter sometimes. He's never as funny as he thinks he is.

https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1018059146254405632

Fluffy's tweets are hilarious!  Go be humorless, salty, and easily offended somewhere else. 

Baliji and Naval have enjoyed their wealthy, thin-skinned asses being kissed by concentric circles of simpering yes-men for too long.

They have become hyper-entitled and too brittle to appreciate perfectly normal banter and good-natured ribbing from their peers, and thus must be taken down a notch or two, back to the level of the rest of us mere mortals (but still well above buffoons like Vinny).

In this post-Enlightenment Judeo-Christian/Greco-Roman society and culture, we have strong traditions of self-deprecation and calling out our figurative 'naked emperors' on their bullshit.  That invaluable feedback is why we Men of the West are able to produce and enjoy nice things.  IOW, laugh at yourself, or others will do it for you.

If you want a caste system where having money makes you an irreproachable Brahmin, go live in a miserable Hindoo shit-hole like India (AKA ancestral home of the Srinivasan and Ravikant clans).

Baliji's insufferable virtue-signaling and Sage Guru Naval's New Age Hustle and rank hypocrisy ("I block the outraged" LOL) are ripe for satire.  Fluffy & Friends are doing us all a favor and providing great lulz in the process.

I understand he's free to do as he wants and that it's too fucking bad if I don't like it.

I still think it's juvenile and serves little purpose.

That's because you are an Eternal September noob.  Try reading some older threads from the Blockchain Wars and you'll discover the power of Toxicity(tm) and Trolling won critical battles for public opinion against XT, Classic, Unlimited, and S2X despite self-identified 'mature' people *EXACTLY* like you crying endlessly and pouting about propriety, maturity, and decorum.

#LookAtMeImIcebreaker

As usual, you take far too long to spew the same old same old. The degree of anger it must take to actually sit down and compose such a diatribe in response to my comment is truly astounding.

Brevity. Wit. It's not hard.

[Febo]

I wish to fuck FP would stay off Twitter sometimes. He's never as funny as he thinks he is.

https://twitter.com/balajis/status/1018059146254405632

So you think he should get few more dogs to spend more time walking them and less for Twitter?

He reminds me of the boys who would sit at the back of the class and make jokes at the expense of others. Boys who have an overwhelming need for applause and attention.

I suspect it's my age. I can't get my head around the idea that spending one's time and energy on Twitter in order to indulge in the current circle jerk, is a proper use of a grown man's day.

And yes, I understand he's not the leader of Monero. I understand he's free to do as he wants and that it's too fucking bad if I don't like it.

I still think it's juvenile and serves little purpose.

Well. If we focus to the Coinbase CTO guy. It seems to me he was not happy they were called on their 5 coins pre announcement.    Kraken also called them out: https://twitter.com/krakenfx/status/1017933203875622914  Maybe he will also block Kraken.  To me Coinbase CTO acted immature.


On more general, yes you are right. But people are different. I act different you act different he act different.

[iCEBREAKER]

As usual, you take far too long to spew the same old same old. The degree of anger it must take to actually sit down and compose such a diatribe in response to my comment is truly astounding.

Brevity. Wit. It's not hard.

Way to miss the obvious self-parody saturating every word of my post.  It's like you were born without a sense of humor and are unable to properly operate a sarcasm detector, even when aided with clues in giant red letters.

No wonder Fluffy's funny magical crypto tweets make you clutch your pearls before collapsing onto the nearest fainting couch, weeping softly for the appalling lack of good manners on The Internet.

Have you ever participated on any other threads?  No?  Try to get out more.

I'm sure Deepak Navikant has some appropriately mealy-mouthed platitude regarding the value of opinion diversity you could peruse rather than keep being "truly" astounded by your own lack of reading comprehension and context awareness.  

Monero runs on comedy and Fluffy is our Chief Entertainment Officer. If you can't handle that, perhaps the Dash community would be a better fit and more able to accommodate your sensitivities.

[Billy Bunter]

As usual, you take far too long to spew the same old same old. The degree of anger it must take to actually sit down and compose such a diatribe in response to my comment is truly astounding.

Brevity. Wit. It's not hard.

Way to miss the obvious self-parody saturating every word of my post.  It's like you were born without a sense of humor and are unable to properly operate a sarcasm detector, even when aided with clues in giant red letters.

No wonder Fluffy's funny magical crypto tweets make you clutch your pearls before collapsing onto the nearest fainting couch, weeping softly for the appalling lack of good manners on The Internet.

Have you ever participated on any other threads?  No?  Try to get out more.

I'm sure Deepak Navikant has some appropriately mealy-mouthed platitude regarding the value of opinion diversity you could peruse rather than keep being "truly" astounded by your own lack of reading comprehension and context awareness.  

Monero runs on comedy and Fluffy is our Chief Entertainment Officer. If you can't handle that, perhaps the Dash community would be a better fit and more able to accommodate your sensitivities.

On reflection, I can see that I'm to blame for this unfortunate exchange between us. I had quite simply forgotten how easily triggered you are at the mere semblance of criticism of FP. (And yes, I completely missed the self-parody of your post. My apologies.)

Shake hands?

[tokeweed]

Basically all I see this doing is pushing Moneros timeline back a few years but when it pops out on its own it will explode and not return. Which is not a big deal as all the original holders have all made their investment returns (except idiots like me and those that got scammed).

Exactly. Monetary status will emerge from economic realities, not marketing and exchange listings. The race is to building an unstopable and uncensorable protocol, not who can secure the best backroom deals for exchange listings with their pre-mine. Anyone use verge on PornHub yet?   The monero devs are squarely focused on what matters: hardening the protocol.

We are watching the nascent steps of this monetary status emerge in literal slow motion. It's going to be painful sometimes. Such is the nature of watching exponential growth from a human perspective fixed to about 0.2 seconds.

Chinese police bust a World Cup gambling ring with more than $1 billion in cryptocurrency

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17569006/world-cup-gambling-ring-china-police-cryptocurrency


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The operators used BTC, ETH and LTC.  Lmao.  And it seems Monero's community hasn't spread the word quite well yet.  Curious if we would've even heard of it if XMR was used...

[Febo]

Basically all I see this doing is pushing Moneros timeline back a few years but when it pops out on its own it will explode and not return. Which is not a big deal as all the original holders have all made their investment returns (except idiots like me and those that got scammed).

Exactly. Monetary status will emerge from economic realities, not marketing and exchange listings. The race is to building an unstopable and uncensorable protocol, not who can secure the best backroom deals for exchange listings with their pre-mine. Anyone use verge on PornHub yet?   The monero devs are squarely focused on what matters: hardening the protocol.

We are watching the nascent steps of this monetary status emerge in literal slow motion. It's going to be painful sometimes. Such is the nature of watching exponential growth from a human perspective fixed to about 0.2 seconds.

Chinese police bust a World Cup gambling ring with more than $1 billion in cryptocurrency

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17569006/world-cup-gambling-ring-china-police-cryptocurrency


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The operators used BTC, ETH and LTC.  Lmao.  And it seems Monero's community hasn't spread the word quite well yet.  Curious if we would've even heard of it if XMR was used...

It is interesting that after all this years there seems to be so little interest for Monero in China. There is huge interest in Bitcoin but way less for Monero and we would sort of expect there will be because of China political and economic system.

[Gaben.]

Basically all I see this doing is pushing Moneros timeline back a few years but when it pops out on its own it will explode and not return. Which is not a big deal as all the original holders have all made their investment returns (except idiots like me and those that got scammed).

Exactly. Monetary status will emerge from economic realities, not marketing and exchange listings. The race is to building an unstopable and uncensorable protocol, not who can secure the best backroom deals for exchange listings with their pre-mine. Anyone use verge on PornHub yet?   The monero devs are squarely focused on what matters: hardening the protocol.

We are watching the nascent steps of this monetary status emerge in literal slow motion. It's going to be painful sometimes. Such is the nature of watching exponential growth from a human perspective fixed to about 0.2 seconds.

Chinese police bust a World Cup gambling ring with more than $1 billion in cryptocurrency

https://www.theverge.com/2018/7/13/17569006/world-cup-gambling-ring-china-police-cryptocurrency


SHUM

The operators used BTC, ETH and LTC.  Lmao.  And it seems Monero's community hasn't spread the word quite well yet.  Curious if we would've even heard of it if XMR was used...

It is interesting that after all this years there seems to be so little interest for Monero in China. There is huge interest in Bitcoin but way less for Monero and we would sort of expect there will be because of China political and economic system.

The logistics of coordinating a billion dollars worth of transaction volume something worth, in entirety, 2 billion dollars is hardly feasible for a market already risky enough such as gambling.

The time needed to exchange that much without significantly impacting a market that typically only sees a couple million dollars a day would probably leave many a gambler sick to the stomach.

So, point is, aside from technical underlying potential, there are many other legitimate reasons not to use monero.

Like if one group we're to lose a 50+million dollar bet (you know..about 5% of a billion) denominated in USD but exchanged through monero that would surely be a losing proposition even if the opposite were true and the sorry fellas won the first bet.

[dEBRUYNE]

"The first audit (by Kudelski Security) of Monero compatible Bulletproofs has, bearing a few minor issues, been successfully completed!"

https://twitter.com/monero/status/1018523174881890306

[phishead]

"The first audit (by Kudelski Security) of Monero compatible Bulletproofs has, bearing a few minor issues, been successfully completed!"

https://twitter.com/monero/status/1018523174881890306

More generally, the code base would likely benefit from fuzz testing and automated
static analysis.

Just curious what this is?  What sort of analyses would these tests do that they couldn't?

[rinus]

Anybody know where aminorix is? He is out?

[Hueristic]

"The first audit (by Kudelski Security) of Monero compatible Bulletproofs has, bearing a few minor issues, been successfully completed!"

https://twitter.com/monero/status/1018523174881890306

More generally, the code base would likely benefit from fuzz testing and automated
static analysis.

Just curious what this is?  What sort of analyses would these tests do that they couldn't?

Not sure about the automated part but static analysis should be part of any code review and fuzz is basically just going through a series of crap inputs to see if you can cause exceptions IIRC.

Always just hit enter for an input when just compiling your programs to test you error trap there. It's funny when you watch someone program crash when you just hit enter when it doesn't check for null. lol

[johnfoss]

Anybody know where aminorix is? He is out?

Possible he adjusted his future predictions and sold out, waiting for new generation blockchain projects to throw money at.

[iCEBREAKER]

I wish to fuck FP would stay off Twitter sometimes. He's never as funny as he thinks he is.

mere semblance of criticism of FP

Do you even know what the word "semblance" means? 


Fluffy's main job as CEO is to make sure whiny snowflakes like you are melted down into puddles of salt water.

But you already knew that...

FP's troll spurred me like few other things have done.

I think what upset me the most is that I feel that trolling is a form of bullying

[juragom]

If my opinion people have very good feelings, it is with about the current situation. Since this is a speculation of threads I would like to know what will be the most bullish event for us to xmr in the future.

[phishead]

If my opinion people have very good feelings, it is with about the current situation. Since this is a speculation of threads I would like to know what will be the most bullish event for us to xmr in the future.

When people in general realize that there is no need for some sort of stamp of "approval" from a centralized entity like a ledger, coinbase, etc. that will make things "bullish" for Monero.  In other words, when people realize that XMR is a chance for everyone to have their very own private, off shore, "Swiss bank account".

[7jaka7]

If my opinion people have very good feelings, it is with about the current situation. Since this is a speculation of threads I would like to know what will be the most bullish event for us to xmr in the future.

It's hard to tell... Check the news: https://www.monero.how/monero-news.
But I think most bullish event for XMR will be another bitcoin bubble, when BTC makes big moves also all altcoins do.
XMR was just added to Ledger, https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/8z2zz2/monero_has_successful_audit_of_their_bulletproofs/, new client... A lot of news but it doesn't reflect on it's price as much as other (company driven tokens/coins). Listen to this and you will understand it better (from 22 minute on): https://youtu.be/KqhRZfKRriU?t=21m58s.

[Billy Bunter]

I wish to fuck FP would stay off Twitter sometimes. He's never as funny as he thinks he is.

mere semblance of criticism of FP

Do you even know what the word "semblance" means?  


Fluffy's main job as CEO is to make sure whiny snowflakes like you are melted down into puddles of salt water.

But you already knew that...

FP's troll spurred me like few other things have done.

I think what upset me the most is that I feel that trolling is a form of bullying

Notwithstanding the possibility that I might be overlooking the 'obvious self-parody' of your response, I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that, to my offer of a hand shake, your response is a 'no'.

You're breaking my goddam heart, you know that?

[Febo]

Anybody know where aminorix is? He is out?

People take breaks from this forum. It is wise thing to do. You can see eh had not posted fro many months.

adjusted his future predictions and sold out

You dont sell your Monero before 2019 ends. That was the first rule of Monero.

It made mining very good. It's very valuable. Investing now is a bit scary. Used for privacy. This makes it worthwhile. I've had an amount last year

Investing now is much better then half year ago.  I was scared in December a lot where all this leads. Now I am total calmed down.

[kurious]

Well, a little green and a nice volume spike...

Over .020 again briefly - hope things are looking up.