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July 29, 2018, 01:52:24 PM
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Ffs...  Is the Dash vs Monero thing still alive?  I think it has been proven that all negative said about Monero was all FUD and nonesense.  I even fell for it back in the day when it was under 5 bucks.  5 BUCKS!  I would have held starting back then if only I knew better instead trading in and out of it.

Not really--dash just sort of gave up on the privacy narrative. I think ICEbreaker still pushes it, but he's like that Japanese soldier stuck on an island for thirty years who thought WWII was still ongoing.

Which makes me wonder: what is Dash's USP these days?

"Better than Bitcoin!" "Decentralized goverance!" seem the reasons given, though how either survive the least bit of scrutinity is beyond me. TBH I always thought Evan should just be honest and say, "Look, idiots will pay you money to use the network, more than they pay miners, so just buy, set up a masternode and watch the greater fools rush in."

Though then the reality sets-in that it's a game of stake holder chicken, so maybe not the best sales pitch.


Yes - I'd forgotten those points. They all seem so quaint these days.

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July 29, 2018, 01:57:40 PM
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I'll admit it. I've woken up to better-looking charts.

it’s gotta start going up soon doesn’t it?
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July 29, 2018, 02:03:18 PM
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I'll admit it. I've woken up to better-looking charts.

it’s gotta start going up soon doesn’t it?

One would hope (pray?)

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July 29, 2018, 03:50:46 PM
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Ffs...  Is the Dash vs Monero thing still alive?  I think it has been proven that all negative said about Monero was all FUD and nonesense.  I even fell for it back in the day when it was under 5 bucks.  5 BUCKS!  I would have held starting back then if only I knew better instead trading in and out of it.

Not really--dash just sort of gave up on the privacy narrative. I think ICEbreaker still pushes it, but he's like that Japanese soldier stuck on an island for thirty years who thought WWII was still ongoing.

Oh shit, that was a good analogy! Smiley

I'll admit it. I've woken up to better-looking charts.

it’s gotta start going up soon doesn’t it?

Inevitably.

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July 29, 2018, 07:35:01 PM
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Ffs...  Is the Dash vs Monero thing still alive?  I think it has been proven that all negative said about Monero was all FUD and nonesense.  I even fell for it back in the day when it was under 5 bucks.  5 BUCKS!  I would have held starting back then if only I knew better instead trading in and out of it.

I know that cryptokwuk is just trolling. He dont care and he know that Monero is best anon coin out there. But I will correct anyone that post those research papers and claim there was a bug or a flaw in Monero. It was not! That is how Monero worked back then. Later it got developed to what is now and Monero will continue to develop.  We should not say one year from now that Monero had a flaw or a bug in 2018  because back then there was no Kovri and someone could somehow find your IP when you are making a Monero transaction. 

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July 29, 2018, 07:41:09 PM
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XMR is a potential coin and has incredible price increases in 2017. I am still investing in XMR now. Surely the end of this year, the price of XMR will increase to $ 390 again. Hopefully, my prediction is correct
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July 29, 2018, 08:56:02 PM
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If they work as per theory, zk-snarks offer a larger anonymity set.  Only time will tell if defects of design or implementation, or of covert intent, demolish this merit.
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July 29, 2018, 09:32:54 PM
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If they work as per theory, zk-snarks offer a larger anonymity set.  Only time will tell if defects of design or implementation, or of covert intent, demolish this merit.

Well as an investor, I'm not hodling anything that has no way to audit the supply--a value overflow incident with zcash would be a death knell to your savings and you wouldn't even know it until someone started dumping their magically fun bucks on exchanges.

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July 29, 2018, 09:34:58 PM
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how much lower do you think it will go?
are we running out of hopium?
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July 29, 2018, 11:28:24 PM
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If they work as per theory, zk-snarks offer a larger anonymity set.  Only time will tell if defects of design or implementation, or of covert intent, demolish this merit.

Well as an investor, I'm not hodling anything that has no way to audit the supply--a value overflow incident with zcash would be a death knell to your savings and you wouldn't even know it until someone started dumping their magically fun bucks on exchanges.


XMR rich list for sale Wink weeeee

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July 30, 2018, 01:44:19 AM
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If they work as per theory, zk-snarks offer a larger anonymity set.  Only time will tell if defects of design or implementation, or of covert intent, demolish this merit.

Well as an investor, I'm not hodling anything that has no way to audit the supply--a value overflow incident with zcash would be a death knell to your savings and you wouldn't even know it until someone started dumping their magically fun bucks on exchanges.


XMR rich list for sale Wink weeeee

C'mon man. Really? I'll escrow. Smiley

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https://bitinfocharts.com/top-100-richest-monero-addresses.html

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July 30, 2018, 02:31:54 AM
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If they work as per theory, zk-snarks offer a larger anonymity set.  Only time will tell if defects of design or implementation, or of covert intent, demolish this merit.

Well as an investor, I'm not hodling anything that has no way to audit the supply--a value overflow incident with zcash would be a death knell to your savings and you wouldn't even know it until someone started dumping their magically fun bucks on exchanges.


XMR rich list for sale Wink weeeee

C'mon man. Really? I'll escrow. Smiley

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escrow? lol ...bitcoins' inherit "web-of-trust" characteristics ~ needs no escrow ( read satoshi whitepaper ) Wink weeee

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July 30, 2018, 05:42:51 AM
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Ffs...  Is the Dash vs Monero thing still alive?  I think it has been proven that all negative said about Monero was all FUD and nonesense.  I even fell for it back in the day when it was under 5 bucks.  5 BUCKS!  I would have held starting back then if only I knew better instead trading in and out of it.

Not really--dash just sort of gave up on the privacy narrative. I think ICEbreaker still pushes it, but he's like that Japanese soldier stuck on an island for thirty years who thought WWII was still ongoing.

Dash is still a scam.  You are still a fraud if you see fraud and don't cry fraud.  Silly shaming tactics from a 2014 noob won't change those facts.

More to the point, Dash still occasionally spikes above XMR in market cap and Dash is still trying to fix their broken version of coinjoin.

Then there is the question of whether this massive cringe-thread is a Poe mocking Toknormal or truly a magnificent display of insufficiently medicated autism.

Breaking! If My Theory is Correct, Fair Value Completely Exposes Monero/Dash Market Manipulation!

IMO it's a Poe.  The "Breaking!" is too on-the-nose, as is thethrowaccount21's heavy-handed satire of Toknormal ("a mental").

CoinFairValue?  LOL.  Okay, which one of you guys did this?  Cheesy


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July 30, 2018, 08:17:45 AM
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Ffs...  Is the Dash vs Monero thing still alive?  I think it has been proven that all negative said about Monero was all FUD and nonesense.  I even fell for it back in the day when it was under 5 bucks.  5 BUCKS!  I would have held starting back then if only I knew better instead trading in and out of it.

Not really--dash just sort of gave up on the privacy narrative. I think ICEbreaker still pushes it, but he's like that Japanese soldier stuck on an island for thirty years who thought WWII was still ongoing.

Dash is still a scam.  You are still a fraud if you see fraud and don't cry fraud.  Silly shaming tactics from a 2014 noob won't change those facts.

More to the point, Dash still occasionally spikes above XMR in market cap and Dash is still trying to fix their broken version of coinjoin.

Then there is the question of whether this massive cringe-thread is a Poe mocking Toknormal or truly a magnificent display of insufficiently medicated autism.

Breaking! If My Theory is Correct, Fair Value Completely Exposes Monero/Dash Market Manipulation!

IMO it's a Poe.  The "Breaking!" is too on-the-nose, as is thethrowaccount21's heavy-handed satire of Toknormal ("a mental").

CoinFairValue?  LOL.  Okay, which one of you guys did this?  Cheesy


That was a good read, thank you!

Fucking Dash, it's such dogshit.

How do you feel about XMR/BTC - USD drops I can handle, the XMR/BTC rate is insulting at this stage...
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Ffs... Is the Dash vs Monero thing still alive?  I think it has been proven that all negative said about Monero was all FUD and nonesense.  I even fell for it back in the day when it was under 5 bucks.  5 BUCKS!  I would have held starting back then if only I knew better instead trading in and out of it.

Not really--dash just sort of gave up on the privacy narrative. I think ICEbreaker still pushes it, but he's like that Japanese soldier stuck on an island for thirty years who thought WWII was still ongoing.

Dash is still a scam.  You are still a fraud if you see fraud and don't cry fraud.  Silly shaming tactics from a 2014 noob won't change those facts.

More to the point, Dash still occasionally spikes above XMR in market cap and Dash is still trying to fix their broken version of coinjoin.

Then there is the question of whether this massive cringe-thread is a Poe mocking Toknormal or truly a magnificent display of insufficiently medicated autism.

Breaking! If My Theory is Correct, Fair Value Completely Exposes Monero/Dash Market Manipulation!

IMO it's a Poe.  The "Breaking!" is too on-the-nose, as is thethrowaccount21's heavy-handed satire of Toknormal ("a mental").

CoinFairValue?  LOL.  Okay, which one of you guys did this?  Cheesy

I'm not trying to shame you and "2014 noob" contradicts itself. I was speaking to the long dead Dash Vs. Monero rivalry and the fact that you still necro the Dash crashing Monero up thread. If your intent is to call out a scam maybe leave the Monero part out (and if it's satire, dress yourself in your own set of plaid pajamas and use pineapples for grenades)--as the rivalry was dead once dashers stopped claiming to be the number one privacy coin and adopted new narratives. I still call it a scam too, but I speak to their current "better than Bitcoin" and "decentralized governance" BS, and I don't go out of my way to hector them. TBH, I think giving them an enemy is the only thing focusing them away from their problems--problems that can't be solved by their oligarchy governance system.

There are plenty of coins that are scams, but I only call out the ones that go after Monero, once they cease and desists, i don't give a shit. I'm more foccused on the fact that maximalists have put themselves in an untentable position by claiming "decentralization" and "censorship resistance" every time they attack a "shitcoin," but anyone who knows the technology a little bit (even my 2014 noob self) reliezes that Monero out performs BTC in both respects by having asic resistance and choosing to not expand other forms of censorship by being a fungible currency. That's the fight i want because maximalists have made the blunder of making the argument about a coin's cypherpunkness and we all know who wins that award.


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July 30, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
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the XMR/BTC rate is insulting
Buy.
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July 30, 2018, 11:02:13 AM
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Monero is the only coin that gets me excited in this market now i really believe it will be top 5 in next few years, for now i can't see a better alternative than this.
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July 30, 2018, 11:03:09 AM
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I agree Monero is the best cryptocurrency in the market alongside bitcoin. But platform coins are somwhow earning more interest from the community. The market does not need too much platform coins and their value is too high in my opinion
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Some really good progress in the Dev Notes this week -
https://monerobase.com/article/monero_devmeeting_2018-07-29

Highlights

•   All Bulletproof(BP) audits have come in.
o   No major issues were found.
o   Some optimizations were suggested.
o   All signs point to BP's making it into the next scheduled protocol upgrade.

•   vtnerd has been working on a MessagePack(msgpack) encoding scheme to supplement JSON. 
o   MessagePack is binary and is generally faster to encode/decode than straight JSON.

•   vtnerd is continuing work on the ZeroMQ(0MQ) implementation.
•   MoneroMooo is working on a blockchain ancestry application that calculates the cardinal of an output's ancestry.
•   A lot of work is being performed on the GUI.
•   hyc's new/testing Proof of Work scheme, randomJS, has been rewritten in C++ and is being tested in Wownero.
•   Next meeting on August 12th.
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July 30, 2018, 02:06:02 PM
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I will tell you what Monero really need. Fucking rich underground sellers/buyers in major countries.

Like some VIP bitcoin elites that dealing only in cash. And I mean that ones that will not talk with you, if you not want sell/buy BTC above $1,000,000. For them matter just the real 1 day actual BTC value. They not invest in BTC. Is just easy way to move money.

That's why BTC is still so popular. These people doesn't care about technical stuff.

They happy if someone give them $100,000,000 in Columbia and buy BTC from them.
And then in Thailand after 20-30 minutes they sell the BTC to for around same price.

Security is not right now a concern for these "bad guys". Maybe some major busts will wake up this big drugs/narcos/weapons/traffic/lords... to stop using BTC for such transactions and start using Monero and price of Monero will skyrocket.
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