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September 12, 2018, 02:44:10 PM
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Quoting Vitalik Buterin from https://www.forbes.com/sites/rachelwolfson/2018/08/15/vitalik-buterin-on-the-state-of-ethereum-the-future-of-blockchain-and-google-trying-to-hire-him/ : "The Casper protocol is getting much closer to being finalized at this point. It’s just pending review on academic analysis"

For those who are not aware, Casper will introduce Proof of Stake instead of Proof of Work for ETH. So many GPU miners (especially on AMD chips) will naturally shift to XMR being the next most profitable coin to mine.

So my question is simple: what effect do you think will Casper have on the price of Monero?

Eth is proving time and a gain what a hyped POS coin it has always been and when the miners leave the price will just continue down the shitter as the Scam ICO's get shut down. So it should naturally turn people attention to solid projects such as this one.

I agree ETH looks overhyped. I invite everybody to look at http://bpeindex.com/ to understand how XMR is cheap at the moment...

No doubt Casper will attract GPU miners to Monero. But what do you think about the afflux of miners on the price of XMR (not ETH)? For example:

  • scenario1 = miners need to pay for their electricity bills in fiat, so they sell their mined XMR, which is driving the price down (miners sell, but don't buy)
  • scenario2 = miners need to pay for their electricity bills in fiat, but they sell their mined XMR at least at cost price which is ~143USD with current difficulty (~51,725,000,000) & $0.10 per KW/H & 1% pool fee. I know $0.10 per KW/H might sound high but I am including the whole cost. Watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLivTR3KBxs if you don't understand the global cost of mining for big farms
  • scenario3 = ?

I'd like to read various opinions of this community on this subject

Well, I might get the answer to my question even before the introduction of Casper as many miners switched to Monero since last week:


Let's sit and observe now.

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Monero is down right now like everything else. I'm checking MA50 with 4hours graphic, prices still hasn't touched ma50. If it goes below 0.01640 btc, it may go down more :/ I hope it recovers from there.

XMR did not lose so much in comparison with some other cryptocurrencies which are in the top-20. Moreover, Monero managed to show his best potential - recently it was growing well.
Monero is still very difficult to use by an ordinary user. The big chance for Monero is now. With the speculative market down. It should still prove useful as the main anonymous currency. The king of the dark net. The free currency.

However the available wallets are still very bad. The fees are high. And few use as a currency. Still, I believe in the project, but it's sad that they are wasting the best chance they could have.

The GUI wallet works very well. When bulletproofs come out fees will be cheaper   Shocked
Is there any ETA for bulletproofs?

Next fork IIRC, which is slated for OCT I think.


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People speculating on Monero may also be interested in the MoneroMarkets subreddit (unaffiliated)
Monero is a coin based upon the idea of complete privacy and security. It is a coin whose transactions are completely anonymous and untraceable making it one of the better privacy coins available out there. Even the amount sent can't be traced making it one of the better choices for black market.
Monero has one of the better development teams backing it which is another factor which makes it fit for investment. I think the coin has tremendous amount of potential to grow and you can easily expect it's value to be around 400-500$ by end of this year for sure.
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September 13, 2018, 12:31:21 PM
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I do not understand anything for this xmr I am constantly changing the price. I guess it's a coin that whales love so much. because the price change sometimes makes me dizzy.

You are right was $70 then $140 then back to $100. Easily to make a fortune out of it or lose almost everything. In just a month that was not even that turbulent.

And it seems we are going back to $140 again. Just usual weeks in crypto.

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September 13, 2018, 03:30:20 PM
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I do not understand anything for this xmr I am constantly changing the price. I guess it's a coin that whales love so much. because the price change sometimes makes me dizzy.

You are right was $70 then $140 then back to $100. Easily to make a fortune out of it or lose almost everything. In just a month that was not even that turbulent.

And it seems we are going back to $140 again. Just usual weeks in crypto.

It seems the XMR has hit the bottom. It is rising faster than BTC or BCH now.
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September 13, 2018, 05:11:14 PM
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Good to see XMR difficulty starting to move in the right direction.
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September 13, 2018, 05:16:10 PM
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Monero is a very good coin and what it most often uses for anonymous transactions speaks volumes. I believe that this is a coin when the growth of the market will necessarily increase in price.
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Number of Monero ATMs was on 8th Jully 71 and  18th August 80.


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Good to see XMR difficulty starting to move in the right direction.
very good coins for short-term investment, prices are stable,
and now monero seems to be going up again
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Shhh, I need to get a buy in. Smiley

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What does it tell us?
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The historical price of XMR with three random lines drawn on it.
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We got close to ZEC price again in last days, but did not get ahead. I dont believe Monero was ever more expensive then ZEC so far.  This was sort of destined to happen because of the emission. Doubt many here speculated it will not happen this long. Any ideas when Monero will get more expensive then ZEC?

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September 14, 2018, 06:48:50 PM
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September 14, 2018, 07:03:19 PM
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We got close to ZEC price again in last days, but did not get ahead. I dont believe Monero was ever more expensive then ZEC so far.  This was sort of destined to happen because of the emission. Doubt many here speculated it will not happen this long. Any ideas when Monero will get more expensive then ZEC?

I made a post here on April 22, 2018 where I recorded that the price of XMR > ZEC - at least on CMC. Didn't last long though.

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September 14, 2018, 07:10:23 PM
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We got close to ZEC price again in last days, but did not get ahead. I dont believe Monero was ever more expensive then ZEC so far.  This was sort of destined to happen because of the emission. Doubt many here speculated it will not happen this long. Any ideas when Monero will get more expensive then ZEC?
Probably soon (2-10 days). But we will see if the higher price will last. I am no expert in TA but it seems like they have pretty similar support levels (around $90-$100) so we will see which one will be stronger.
What do you think the consequences of this "flippening" may be?
BTW. Just saw this article today explaining how private ZCash really is.

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September 15, 2018, 01:06:34 AM
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We got close to ZEC price again in last days, but did not get ahead. I dont believe Monero was ever more expensive then ZEC so far.  This was sort of destined to happen because of the emission. Doubt many here speculated it will not happen this long. Any ideas when Monero will get more expensive then ZEC?

We're getting there.

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September 15, 2018, 01:43:58 AM
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We got close to ZEC price again in last days, but did not get ahead. I dont believe Monero was ever more expensive then ZEC so far.  This was sort of destined to happen because of the emission. Doubt many here speculated it will not happen this long. Any ideas when Monero will get more expensive then ZEC?

ZEC was pumped from before launch with insider trading on tokens before chain launch and has been artificially held up since. It will die a slow death but it will die as any non trustless system will.

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