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January 03, 2020, 06:01:16 PM
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This is a lot of work.

But  I have  2 farms I control

One has 560-590 th

other has 1100-1150th

total is about 1.70ph 

I get paid 0.00001761 a th x 1700 or about 0.029937btc a day that is  0.089811

nicehash  would be .0000202   or about 0.03434 a day that is  0.10302 for 3 days

If I did a 3 day rental of my gear  at  0.000019  x 1700  =   0.0323 x 3 =  .0969  the renter would save about 0.00612

I would make an extra 0.007089

your shot would be  about 140  to one for a block  at a cost of 0.0969 btc






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January 03, 2020, 07:07:46 PM
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I'm in for an extended run with similar odds and buy in if others are as well. My wife would kill me if I gambled 1.25 BTC. It's easier to get it by her if it's in smaller chunks haha...

Any other fools like me out there want to go for round 2 with lower hash rate and longer duration? Maybe 0.25 BTC each x 10. If my math is right that's 1.7PH for over 77 days and 1 in 6 odds.
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January 03, 2020, 07:20:09 PM
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I'm in for an extended run with similar odds and buy in if others are as well. My wife would kill me if I gambled 1.25 BTC. It's easier to get it by her if it's in smaller chunks haha...

Any other fools like me out there want to go for round 2 with lower hash rate and longer duration? Maybe 0.25 BTC each x 10. If my math is right that's 1.7PH for over 77 days and 1 in 6 odds.

Lets wait for the hash run we are doing now to finish.


It could last longer or less then 77 days as we would adjust it every difficulty.
 
   I would not want huge coin up front. As that is a lot to ask.

It would be steady. As my uptime is over 95%

I need to figure out a good price point.

 I may start a specialty thread under pools as it may not be fair to use this thread.  I would be assured of a small profit on the rentals even if a block is not hit. I also don't want ck to get zero if I make a few bucks.

 Although the only place it is fair to mine on if renting the hash would be solo.ckpool.

Have to think it over. Maybe do 10 day rentals inside of each diff adjustment.  Give me some time to figure it out.

Just a thought.



I rather nicehash does not get a cut and me and ck get something.

Have to figure a good way to structure idea.

I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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January 03, 2020, 07:42:35 PM
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I'm in for an extended run with similar odds and buy in if others are as well. My wife would kill me if I gambled 1.25 BTC. It's easier to get it by her if it's in smaller chunks haha...

Any other fools like me out there want to go for round 2 with lower hash rate and longer duration? Maybe 0.25 BTC each x 10. If my math is right that's 1.7PH for over 77 days and 1 in 6 odds.

Lets wait for the hash run we are doing now to finish.


It could last longer or less then 77 days as we would adjust it every difficulty.
 
   I would not want huge coin up front. As that is a lot to ask.

It would be steady. As my uptime is over 95%

I need to figure out a good price point.

 I may start a specialty thread under pools as it may not be fair to use this thread.  I would be assured of a small profit on the rentals even if a block is not hit. I also don't want ck to get zero if I make a few bucks.

 Although the only place it is fair to mine on if renting the hash would be solo.ckpool.

Have to think it over. Maybe do 10 day rentals inside of each diff adjustment.  Give me some time to figure it out.

Just a thought.



I rather nicehash does not get a cut and me and ck get something.

Have to figure a good way to structure idea.

I understand and agree with your points and concerns. I don't want to mine anywhere else other than ckpool solo for this endeavor.
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January 03, 2020, 08:10:49 PM
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I understand and agree with your points and concerns. I don't want to mine anywhere else other than ckpool solo for this endeavor.
I second this motion.

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January 03, 2020, 08:53:59 PM
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You should look at the MRR market place nice hash can be a serious pain when the bidding wars start also I found that rentals go much further on https://www.miningrigrentals.com/ and there's a good chance of being credited back some funds for each rental you do if the speed is not 100% on point which I though was quite a nice touch from them.

they also have the affiliate system (wink wink) for some extra $$$ back when renting.

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January 03, 2020, 09:25:55 PM
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Down for jumping into round 2..
if there is a list
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January 03, 2020, 09:51:35 PM
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mrr is more expensive.

everyone is over 0.00002393

https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/sha256

 
"Hashrate
Price/TH/Day
Min. Rental Hours
Max. Rental Hours
default | available 
2.5PHS ReadDescription! FastUP! diff > 1000000
97.48   2.50P   0.00002394   3hrs
(0.00763088)
48hrs
(0.122094)
Rent Now!
5.0PHS ReadDescription! FastUP! diff > 1000000
97.14   5.00P   0.00002394   3hrs
(0.01526175)
48hrs
(0.244188)
Rent Now!
3.0PHS ReadDescription! FastUP! diff > 1000000
96.87   3.00P   0.00002394   3hrs
(0.00915705)
48hrs
(0.1465128)
Rent Now!
SHARig3
88.11   11.00P   0.00002395   3hrs
(0.03358988)
24hrs
(0.268719)
Rent Now!
SHARig2
86.89   5.00P   0.00002395   3hrs
(0.01526813)
24hrs
(0.122145)
Rent Now!
xnonce T-9
99.92   11.50T   0.00002417   3hrs
(0.00003544)
14hrs
(0.00016538)
Rent Now!
Antminer10
100.00   14.00T   0.00002418   3hrs
(0.00004315)
24hrs
(0.00034524)
Rent Now!"


right now the fools club is paying 0.0000189

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January 03, 2020, 09:57:12 PM
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mrr is more expensive.

everyone is over 0.00002393

https://www.miningrigrentals.com/rigs/sha256


right now the fools club is paying 0.0000189

Look at it with LTC as the option.
I find it can be cheaper sometimes depending on a few factors.

Good luck guys hope you kill one before your rentals run out!

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January 04, 2020, 12:34:22 AM
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we still are mining
"bestever": 1616494087505

I keep my fingers crossed for you!
Happy new Year to all of you!

Come on move you stubborn best share!!!
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January 04, 2020, 01:22:52 AM
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We have about 9 hours left at about 10 ph

I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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January 04, 2020, 06:03:36 AM
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I'm in for an extended run with similar odds and buy in if others are as well. My wife would kill me if I gambled 1.25 BTC. It's easier to get it by her if it's in smaller chunks haha...

Any other fools like me out there want to go for round 2 with lower hash rate and longer duration? Maybe 0.25 BTC each x 10. If my math is right that's 1.7PH for over 77 days and 1 in 6 odds.

Lets wait for the hash run we are doing now to finish.


It could last longer or less then 77 days as we would adjust it every difficulty.
 
   I would not want huge coin up front. As that is a lot to ask.

It would be steady. As my uptime is over 95%

I need to figure out a good price point.

 I may start a specialty thread under pools as it may not be fair to use this thread.  I would be assured of a small profit on the rentals even if a block is not hit. I also don't want ck to get zero if I make a few bucks.

 Although the only place it is fair to mine on if renting the hash would be solo.ckpool.

Have to think it over. Maybe do 10 day rentals inside of each diff adjustment.  Give me some time to figure it out.

Just a thought.



I rather nicehash does not get a cut and me and ck get something.

Have to figure a good way to structure idea.

count me in with some hashpower, i average around 400Th
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January 04, 2020, 01:46:48 PM
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 I am on my alt account

Well ck runs the pool he only collects if a block hits.
Miners only collect if a block hits.

Nicehash  makes risk free coin with every rental.
So if I put up 1.6ph
and chillfactor puts up .4ph

we have a constant 2.0ph mining

If it costs 0.00002000 x 2000 = 0.04 + 3% or  0.0412 daily at nicehash

If 2.0 ph earns

0.00001761 x 2000 = 0.03522

if we charge 0.00002 x 2000 = 0.04

Nicehash gets zero


renters save 0.0012 a day or 8.76 usd

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get 0.04-0.03522 = 0.00478 a day profit.  34.90 usd if coins are 7300

lot of work for  43 usd a day

 Need to think about it.

If I had 4ph it could be worth it.


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January 04, 2020, 05:53:30 PM
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I might be interested in throwing my hashpower in depending on the deal. By the end of next week I'll have about 1.3ph.

It looks like there should be enough margin for everyone to be happy.

For instance:

renters pay actual expected (currently about 0.01778 0.01852BTC/day/ph).

Philipma1957 gets 1% of the rental fee for doing all the work, 99% gets paid out to hash providers.

ck already gets paid 1% of reward if a block is hit.

So hash providers effectively get a PPS with only 1% fee for the rental period.

Renters pay 0 fee, only pay 1% to ck when block is hit.

The rental period would just need to be long enough and total hashrate large enough to make it worth it for Philipma1957. Or could adjust the fees up so it is worth it for Philipma1957.


edit: Just realized the BTC/day/ph I calculated above still included a 4% pool fee, actual expected earning without a pool fee would be 0.01852BTC/day/ph at current diff and 0.2BTC transaction fees per block.

Have some dead Bitmain 17 series hashboards or full miners?
I'll buy them ... send me a PM with what you have and I'll make you an offer!
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January 04, 2020, 06:12:10 PM
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If we can get a small group of people to commit to a long term rental with payments at regular intervals, this could work for everyone. With some luck, it could even be profitable. I would like to participate if possible as a renter.  Grin
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January 04, 2020, 07:27:36 PM
Last edit: January 04, 2020, 10:24:04 PM by philipma1957
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I might be interested in throwing my hashpower in depending on the deal. By the end of next week I'll have about 1.3ph.

It looks like there should be enough margin for everyone to be happy.

For instance:

renters pay actual expected (currently about 0.01778BTC/day/ph).

Philipma1957 gets 1% of the rental fee for doing all the work, 99% gets paid out to hash providers.

ck already gets paid 1% of reward if a block is hit.

So hash providers effectively get a PPS with only 1% fee for the rental period.

Renters pay 0 fee, only pay 1% to ck when block is hit.

The rental period would just need to be long enough and total hashrate large enough to make it worth it for Philipma1957. Or could adjust the fees up so it is worth it for Philipma1957.


It is a question of  proper fee management.

We have almost finished  all 1.251 btc  we put in

we got 1.21  and paid  0.040 btc in fees to nicehash  
we did not get any guaranteed rates  worth while...  and almost always paid  a 10% premium on the hash.  Which means the 1.21 we got credit for in rentals was reduced to

  1.21 x .9 =  

1.089  out of 1.251  is close to 87.05%  bang for our buck    on this rental . close to a 13% take out on the rental

 so if 3 miners can offer 4ph at  a  5% take out it is

better for the players.

4 x 0.01778 = 0.07112 daily  with no fee

0.07112 x 1.05 = 0.074676  with 5% fee

0.07112 x 1.13 = 0.0803656  with 13% fee

so a 10 day is

 0.711200    0%  

 0.746760    5%    

 0.803656    13%


Let me check numbers better.. it could be feasable

to do a 10 day  4ph rental this way  still   early and needs planning.





almost done 2-3 hours left see below.

http://solo.ckpool.org/users/1MVzxXXtYuvmzGBT2ZiyrxXiEpUJ6Ttr1u

Edit it is over and out.  never did do more then that 1.6t share.

pulled 1.149T  shares in all.

In the case of 87%  1.149t shares

In  the case of  95% 1.254t shares

In the case of 100% 1.320t shares

so  this is costly due  demand jacking up pricing and nicehash fees

I see BTC as the super highway and alt coins as taxis and trucks needed to move transactions.
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January 05, 2020, 01:00:23 AM
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Dang. Swing and a miss. Story of my mining career! Is anyone interested in giving it another go? It's clearly a lot of work for Philip so I wouldn't expect him to do it again.

Anyone else we can trust with another 1.25 BTC? Perhaps one of the last 10 with someone else acting as a custodian of the BTC to ensure it's used properly? Don't want to wait another year to go again given the upcoming halving and difficulty increases...
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January 05, 2020, 11:19:36 AM
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I hoped you were successful guy. Nevertheless, You have done your best. I wish a better chance to you.

By the way, How you people, upload photo in this comments?

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January 05, 2020, 03:42:12 PM
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I hoped you were successful guy. Nevertheless, You have done your best. I wish a better chance to you.

By the way, How you people, upload photo in this comments?



use the free website  imgur.com

upload to the site then use direct link

https://i.imgur.com/MExXvvX.png


load images at 1600 size


once you have the link

write [img] the image link   [/ i m g]

dont use the spaces  in the end [/im g]

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January 05, 2020, 07:20:58 PM
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I would be happy to host the next paid round if people are interested I have been mining here for quite some time and am a active community member.

I think it would be an idea if we go forward to multi-sig funds for rentals with 2 members being signing party's this would add some security to the process?

I do think having a community effort at block breaking is a great idea I would also like to continue with the "free" group effort,  I have the spare time to put towards watching rentals  and the pool and am online almost 24/7.

Please feel free to vet me out and check my contributions to the pool and forum, I have also been a keen renter of power on the pool in the hunt for blocks so I understand the rental market's.

Let me know what you guy's think I would be more than happy to oblige.

Magic


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