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June 12, 2012, 08:03:01 AM
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I have 12 transactions from 6/7/2012 that are still sitting unconfirmed in my wallet. The transaction IDs are not found on blockexplorer or blockchain.info, and the transaction ID on the payment sitting in my wallet does not match the transaction ID of the payment on Satoshidice.

MY SEND:           79c61ac77c36439f32cdc172e15a1666f7f35f5b3e16e4597491c474647ed3d7
MY RECEIVE:   18e77ef82e9be9fa82afd72c9da0e36d9d49ce03e44d02f1a55fcd8515ea65ac
SD PAYMENT TX:   d2768db6562c0231da78188c282748b0b4219064792221ff6e32266ca07f01c1

MY SEND:           02636cacb8efe6b8c4005c3a7afb6a55c0458344d7ce54da53c6f85efb8855c8
MY RECEIVE:   7f1fe410a0209a82c476751e21cb124415219c37477c507acca4eda937134bdb
SD PAYMENT TX:   ad1d52e036cd1d030a1436ec82a845110fb0a3cc27fe31adcd18fa2aa76ae56a

MY SEND:           4aac9912301e5ef52d96521948d1f1be3a5385f004232ea85d4c15b696009fbf
MY RECEIVE:   b6d43e7f22d0eac61071ac1abee93e6665cb179aaa87ccc88705bee86ce1e45a
SD PAYMENT TX:   512d71e7fe2a673c467862264d40accb0b99ad5245756878d72920c1d73e0c47

MY SEND:           255795f7ab00c0b1d96304c525fcc907c22326bdc7dc9eeacb6e9bf704fdf720
MY RECEIVE:   1faa2d9e7911679856294efd7a0494877622b14ae7797ee4a0e0b5e1217567c2
SD PAYMENT TX:   1194903667fcbe9b601386ba34c90e3a63c6388288f6d50d1f4011a93acd7858

MY SEND:           801be45e210a1d57c7982d7cd74ea8212ba66ce1a7dad33daeaf976243c35b4e
MY RECEIVE:   2ccefa0ea4d43df5308fad136cf717a1dbfa8ef228342980a7b9f8f1aa1ca7b8
SD PAYMENT TX:   1aac64d6e8294e06a08669e09e5ac98c4d64eeab6c0ed2de4cc1c98926a92c29

MY SEND:           236ff462fda8b65a0e909ce1d8811dd5880f3319e776d004c02aaaf1602bd6f6
MY RECEIVE:   4a50653c48bd9bf61aa978a9c80031a549141856a753b710c747839421f59f76
SD PAYMENT TX:   c443f91ab6c7e0bfe9e0848c7163daaa215b28caee124d8069786a5c1513be5f

MY SEND:           6ddcf6628a07a95397fa79c564773f041233b110e7e5405623d452ea22e5dc04
MY RECEIVE:   d1c1f056c7edb6088dda96d2ac4efc331c5f1a3ba49baa75de46d687813560e4
SD PAYMENT TX:   05eb31104533837395bc118672fa04432ca495a081ea904f05270e1f9d5d5b80

MY SEND:           c72108131b8d0f3d8e4d92da78ab77d6f3cc15621a1063eea8fb6d161cd00a9f
MY RECEIVE:   21a961b04202f57380aee647411498f7a9269fbc2bb5250df37a5ab870c3f881
SD PAYMENT TX:   7c02f1e7bc54eacc3c180b8ada456e9d9729a214705d2ba495507f10289cb419

MY SEND:           e88a3b6a444fd68921867d2a887e766b9376839a872d784a0df371573551c008
MY RECEIVE:   d7262d7ef08dacfdfc163659f23ea43fac6b78ae5cbfe714a9ac0cb0b8275f00
SD PAYMENT TX:   e3b6962c26edb09c2be5da8040a896e013d78724791a2579f3b73dd30b191511

MY SEND:           45e8ef83c2b0a067930d57954912a23f57ff8ec1f16900c64d344e2ce82ad243
MY RECEIVE:   029da454bffbd3a6b53be671a1916885ac1c6abbc5f9121c1f632ae141b470c5
SD PAYMENT TX:   b36b2f0497ce216eb3e96a618307ac8affe15bbf75d2f45b794dde7e8485b9f4

MY SEND:           c57b438160d2f57a00bfaa6da900512c0697090dd55850c028ffae5da2005916
MY RECEIVE:   37d5ca061bc8d2746c9189494337b352c49b38e44edb003fc6bbd5f34ec5f23f
SD PAYMENT TX:   7d887c5e3ebb60c385b0b84ce7279ff3846bdd8d71181825175818b556c9fcf2

MY SEND:           8a155cfbb23b91c60c83bf54edd2b308567c7db1143a2c0ed4cf628747fc400f
MY RECEIVE:   672dfbb0d521c3d15f080d59e702e2af75bb0a05d3fd97f7544c1e06559d7e10
SD PAYMENT TX:   0f7f022b49bf817d7a5175d978b9b3e34509e63d1a722f169fb654bb8c7eebb3

"MY SEND" is the transaction ID of my bet placed to SatoshiDice.
"MY RECEIVE" is the transaction ID of the return payment I received from SatoshiDice (all of which are still unconfirmed).
"SD PAYMENT TX" is the transaction ID that SatoshiDice claims the payment should have had.

This is a total of 19.54851363 BTC.

I have completely re-downloaded the blockchain and rescanned, but the transactions remain unconfirmed and non-existent as far as blockchain.info and blockexplorer are concerned. However, the transaction IDs that Satoshidice claims they sent can be found on both sites, but the bitcoins are not in my wallet, and I do not see the transactions for them.

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June 12, 2012, 09:25:08 AM
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I have 12 transactions from 6/7/2012 that are still sitting unconfirmed in my wallet. The transaction IDs are not found on blockexplorer or blockchain.info, and the transaction ID on the payment sitting in my wallet does not match the transaction ID of the payment on Satoshidice.

Every one of your "MY SEND" payments does show in blockchain.info.  Each then shows in SatoshiDICE as CONFIRMED as well (meaning the payout has confirmed).

So SatoshiDICE looks to have properly received, and paid out to the origin address on each of those.

Now why you wouldn't see those as confirmed in your client, I have no idea.

Are you absolutely sure you have the latest block?  Currently it is block 184,160. (Shows in the bottom right, hover over the icon, for 0.6.2).

Take just the first transaction in your list.  Are you saying your client is at block 184,160 or greater and yet does not show a payment to that payout address for that specified payout amount (it should have at least 542 confirmations)?

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June 12, 2012, 10:17:51 AM
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I have 12 transactions from 6/7/2012 that are still sitting unconfirmed in my wallet. The transaction IDs are not found on blockexplorer or blockchain.info, and the transaction ID on the payment sitting in my wallet does not match the transaction ID of the payment on Satoshidice.

Every one of your "MY SEND" payments does show in blockchain.info.  Each then shows in SatoshiDICE as CONFIRMED as well (meaning the payout has confirmed).

So SatoshiDICE looks to have properly received, and paid out to the origin address on each of those.

Now why you wouldn't see those as confirmed in your client, I have no idea.

Are you absolutely sure you have the latest block?  Currently it is block 184,160. (Shows in the bottom right, hover over the icon, for 0.6.2).

Take just the first transaction in your list.  Are you saying your client is at block 184,160 or greater and yet does not show a payment to that payout address for that specified payout amount (it should have at least 542 confirmations)?

I am 100% sure my blockchain is updated. I know all of my sends are valid. The issue lies in the fact that the receive transactions that correlate to each one of those send transactions remains unconfirmed, and the transaction ID on those receives does not match the transaction ID that SatoshiDICE shows on their website for their payment back to me.

The receive transactions I have in my wallet do not appear on blockchain.info or blockexplorer.com, and the transactions for SatoshiDICE's payments to me do not appear in my wallet anywhere (I have checked, multiple times).

Things I have already done:
  • - Rescan my wallet
  • - Delete and re-download the entire blockchain
  • - Waited 3+ days for transactions to confirm (they have not)

I'm open to suggestions.

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June 12, 2012, 10:51:14 AM
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What client and version are you using?

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June 12, 2012, 11:31:23 AM
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What client and version are you using?

Satoshi Client 0.6.2

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June 12, 2012, 11:34:17 AM
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I'm open to suggestions.

I'm thinking that in addition to the invalid transactions (which will never confirm) that you might already have the valid ones that arrived, and just are overlooking because you also see the invalid ones.  [Sorry, re-reading your comment, you mention "many times".  So guess not.]  Those invalid ones are invalid.  They'll never confirm.  Sorry.   But if you got the valid ones, then your only problem is in trying to remove the invalid ones (there's a procedure that will do that).


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June 12, 2012, 11:39:12 AM
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I guess go back to the beginning.

Step 1. Make a backup of wallet.dat

Step 2.  Remove every file in the bitcoin folder except for wallet.dat

Step 3.  Launch bitcoin and let it download all the blocks again.

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If that still doesn't give you a solution, then you might try pywallet to export the private keys and import them elsewhere.

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June 12, 2012, 11:58:52 AM
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I guess go back to the beginning.

Step 1. Make a backup of wallet.dat

Step 2.  Remove every file in the bitcoin folder except for wallet.dat

Step 3.  Launch bitcoin and let it download all the blocks again.

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If that still doesn't give you a solution, then you might try pywallet to export the private keys and import them elsewhere.

I've done that (re-download block chain), but those transactions still show.

I can't seem to figure out how to export keys, or import them back (in bulk) into a new wallet using pywallet. Know of a tutorial anywhere?

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June 12, 2012, 12:22:01 PM
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If that still doesn't give you a solution, then you might try pywallet to export the private keys and import them elsewhere.

I've done that (re-download block chain), but those transactions still show.

With a clean memory pool after restarting and them not existing in any blocks in the blockchain, I don't understand how it would even know about those transactions to show them anymore even.

To get a look by someone who might know the details of how this can happen, would you consider posting this issue in the Technical Support board?
 - http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=4.0

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June 12, 2012, 12:45:14 PM
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Sounds like geebus is seeing the same problem I am.  Sure wish I knew what was going on exactly.  I've tried doing all the things he listed, and still missing bitcoins.
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June 12, 2012, 04:10:37 PM
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I realize satoshidice is sometimes slow... but for the past few days I always had to wait at least five minutes before I even know if I won or not. Often times it's even longer.

Is this just me? Or that happens to others too?

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June 12, 2012, 04:12:07 PM
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from my incredibly limited experience, that was the case for me, particularly when betting on the <32000. the <64000 paid out near instantly.
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June 12, 2012, 04:30:37 PM
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Since last night I'm waiting hours before I even know if I win or not.

One question: Can we use a sendmany transaction to bet in several numbers and save on transaction fees?

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June 12, 2012, 07:37:24 PM
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Since last night I'm waiting hours before I even know if I win or not.

One question: Can we use a sendmany transaction to bet in several numbers and save on transaction fees?


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June 12, 2012, 07:43:17 PM
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The receive transactions I have in my wallet do not appear on blockchain.info or blockexplorer.com, and the transactions for SatoshiDICE's payments to me do not appear in my wallet anywhere (I have checked, multiple times).

The thing is, the transactions on the SD site have been confirmed.  For example, your first bet was paid out here:

http://blockexplorer.com/tx/d2768db6562c0231da78188c282748b0b4219064792221ff6e32266ca07f01c1

The problem is probably that you have a conflicting transaction in your wallet which prevents this real transaction from showing up.

I think you'll need to remove the bad transactions from your wallet so the real ones can show up.

I've found pywallet's web interface to be great for doing that.

With a clean memory pool after restarting and them not existing in any blocks in the blockchain, I don't understand how it would even know about those transactions to show them anymore even.

The wallet.dat file holds transactions as well as private keys.  That's why you sometimes need '-rescan' - it tells bitcoin to not assume that it knows about all the transactions from old blocks, but to rescan the blockchain and add any relevant transactions to the wallet.

In this case we have too many transactions in the wallet and need to remove the bad ones.  Jeremy had a similar issue recently - I'll link you to his thread:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85689.0

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June 12, 2012, 07:46:27 PM
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Since last night I'm waiting hours before I even know if I win or not.

One question: Can we use a sendmany transaction to bet in several numbers and save on transaction fees?

Yes you can.  See the first point on http://www.satoshidice.com/advanced.php.

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June 12, 2012, 09:22:45 PM
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Slow doesn't begin to describe it. I've seen bets today sit (6) hours before returning......


Perhaps someone wasn't ready for this kind of popularity?
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June 12, 2012, 09:31:12 PM
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Also, look at this one: http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=d361a475d14d5e7c85bbb62571f660aee98f7aff5517441d6922fa9cc3a5daee

A sendmany transaction that processed the bets with 45min between each Roll Eyes

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June 12, 2012, 10:09:05 PM
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No idea if it is the reason, coz it depends on how the SatoshiDICE server works, however:

In bitcoind, an unconfirmed transaction may be lost if bitcoind restarts.
Unconfirmed transactions from other bitcoinds are stored in a memory pool so are lost when bitcoind stops.
Or, if for some reason the 0-confirm transaction didn't make it to the bitcoind (networks aren't perfect) it wont know about it (though rare)
This also means that if bitcoind wasn't running when the transaction was sent out, it won't know about it until either it ends up in a block, or some other 0-confirm transaction requires it and bitcoind requests it from another bitcoind.
i.e. it will eventually get the transaction back again since probably every other bitcoind still has it and eventually a block will include it.
But bitcoind may not find out about it until it lands in a block (which can be more than an hour on some rare occasions - or longer if some pools are ignoring processing the transaction)

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June 12, 2012, 10:15:41 PM
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Transaction ID: 1e11a050fd5a1d18fd63890f9ab4e60c9ce2231ad149d9b36cfee9edbce34b9b

Sent 2 hours ago, 14 confirmations so far. No record on SatoshiDice...

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