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[dooglus]

House edge is about to be temporarily raised to 3% from 1.5%.

For how long and what purpose?

When I saw that message I thought "they must be losing a lot and need to recover some of their losses" and went to track down etotheipi's thread where he posts statistics about satoshidice and how much they are up or down.

I found it here: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=80312 but it hasn't been updated since 11th June (at which point the house was down 700 BTC).

Then I downloaded the script that he uses to generate that report with a view to making an up-to-date report, but I couldn't get it to run.

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[Gladamas]

Someone created a max bid thread for Satoshidice: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86353

[dooglus]

Then I downloaded the script that he uses to generate that report with a view to making an up-to-date report, but I couldn't get it to run.

I figured it out.  I posted an update here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg982716#msg982716

It looks like the house is 215 BTC down, hence the increasing house edge.

[dooglus]

The "lessthan 64000" bet has a maximum bet of -154.5618 BTC.  If I bet negative bitcoins, does the house have a -3% edge?



Also, the banner at the top of the page still says "over 98% breakeven odds", which is apparently no longer true.

[koin]

and what purpose?

maybe because there is no other protection against mining attacks than to make it unprofitable?

here's the tactic.  if i mine, i make sure each block that i mine double spends all my losing bets that haven't confirmed.

with 1.5% house edge a lone miner might be profitable doing this with anything over a couple percent of mining capacity.   with a 3% house edge now you'ld need a much bigger chunk.

[forexmasterja]

How often are the UNKOWN Transactions updated and resent ?

[Fredyy]

My transaction has not been processed!

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/10370227/09c0eb6102a8190b8261e0f03ec557ce81a2e37e87231199b4195cd2f0264279
http://www.satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=09c0eb6102a8190b8261e0f03ec557ce81a2e37e87231199b4195cd2f0264279
http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=09c0eb6102a8190b8261e0f03ec557ce81a2e37e87231199b4195cd2f0264279

[forexmasterja]

I also have 2 transactions i'm waiting on -

1. http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=853d1cf498d7d3430d654ada849aae90fbbc2b93a38e58d0747f02d40d7010db

2. http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=30236f199039dd2ff5d979d6f96e7c47d3fdb38de9a66060c0e3d5f1ab1c01fa

[dooglus]

There are 8 bets which are more than a week old and which haven't yet been spent in a block.  Every bet should be used to fund (part of) the transaction that's sent back to the bettor.  What happened to these 8?

968a692ab98b1f275c635c76be003ab1db9740d0b62f338b270115342ca42f5b (output 1) 0.10000000 BTC
ad4866a91ce24c624f3582aa87b19cd8e55361c31315b9d79d80084730697c14 (output 0) 0.10000000 BTC
bea477ad898c961642876207e65c0f7700581e3c839987e5de151dd640a7eaa0 (output 1) 0.04000000 BTC
010bc3ccaab3394915e6e1ecd026c126572f21501d6d89ca5efc7f3970df554d (output 3) 2.30000000 BTC
0e67d2804b78cd32fcac334b807b62bff7d4d0d3d7af293a42d80a29be031f0a (output 1) 0.03906250 BTC
021f5d99ad2ddbaeacd2be982343e1994ebdf5a6e86fe1cc95c29a0533ba6b9f (output 1) 0.43847759 BTC
5e2c6e2e1cffed5f800e696dc3ab50bb6f99afa2e85940c0ce337fbae9e26354 (output 1) 0.02000000 BTC
103dd3e7eea4e7ba208afa2ecf7d150decbb794b30ba8d740fe36070da50441f (output 1) 0.01000000 BTC

[Fredyy]

My transaction has not been processed!

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/10370227/09c0eb6102a8190b8261e0f03ec557ce81a2e37e87231199b4195cd2f0264279
http://www.satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=09c0eb6102a8190b8261e0f03ec557ce81a2e37e87231199b4195cd2f0264279
http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=09c0eb6102a8190b8261e0f03ec557ce81a2e37e87231199b4195cd2f0264279

I also have 2 transactions i'm waiting on -

1. http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=853d1cf498d7d3430d654ada849aae90fbbc2b93a38e58d0747f02d40d7010db

2. http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=30236f199039dd2ff5d979d6f96e7c47d3fdb38de9a66060c0e3d5f1ab1c01fa

There are 8 bets which are more than a week old and which haven't yet been spent in a block.  Every bet should be used to fund (part of) the transaction that's sent back to the bettor.  What happened to these 8?

968a692ab98b1f275c635c76be003ab1db9740d0b62f338b270115342ca42f5b (output 1) 0.10000000 BTC
ad4866a91ce24c624f3582aa87b19cd8e55361c31315b9d79d80084730697c14 (output 0) 0.10000000 BTC
bea477ad898c961642876207e65c0f7700581e3c839987e5de151dd640a7eaa0 (output 1) 0.04000000 BTC
010bc3ccaab3394915e6e1ecd026c126572f21501d6d89ca5efc7f3970df554d (output 3) 2.30000000 BTC
0e67d2804b78cd32fcac334b807b62bff7d4d0d3d7af293a42d80a29be031f0a (output 1) 0.03906250 BTC
021f5d99ad2ddbaeacd2be982343e1994ebdf5a6e86fe1cc95c29a0533ba6b9f (output 1) 0.43847759 BTC
5e2c6e2e1cffed5f800e696dc3ab50bb6f99afa2e85940c0ce337fbae9e26354 (output 1) 0.02000000 BTC
103dd3e7eea4e7ba208afa2ecf7d150decbb794b30ba8d740fe36070da50441f (output 1) 0.01000000 BTC

Rightnow i think, satoshidice really f*cked something up.

[fireduck]

Maybe this has been up before, but what's the point having hundreds of recent bets on the front page? It often jams my opera making the site (and my laptop) pretty much unusable. For Satoshi's sake, I hope the page is not dynamic...

I have actually thought the same thing. Especially with CloudFlare they are losing a lot of the benifit.

It is dynamic like a fox.  Also, it is CloudFront, not CloudFlare.

[fireduck]

My transaction has not been processed!

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/10370227/09c0eb6102a8190b8261e0f03ec557ce81a2e37e87231199b4195cd2f0264279
http://www.satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=09c0eb6102a8190b8261e0f03ec557ce81a2e37e87231199b4195cd2f0264279
http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=09c0eb6102a8190b8261e0f03ec557ce81a2e37e87231199b4195cd2f0264279

I also have 2 transactions i'm waiting on -

1. http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=853d1cf498d7d3430d654ada849aae90fbbc2b93a38e58d0747f02d40d7010db

2. http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=30236f199039dd2ff5d979d6f96e7c47d3fdb38de9a66060c0e3d5f1ab1c01fa

There are 8 bets which are more than a week old and which haven't yet been spent in a block.  Every bet should be used to fund (part of) the transaction that's sent back to the bettor.  What happened to these 8?

968a692ab98b1f275c635c76be003ab1db9740d0b62f338b270115342ca42f5b (output 1) 0.10000000 BTC
ad4866a91ce24c624f3582aa87b19cd8e55361c31315b9d79d80084730697c14 (output 0) 0.10000000 BTC
bea477ad898c961642876207e65c0f7700581e3c839987e5de151dd640a7eaa0 (output 1) 0.04000000 BTC
010bc3ccaab3394915e6e1ecd026c126572f21501d6d89ca5efc7f3970df554d (output 3) 2.30000000 BTC
0e67d2804b78cd32fcac334b807b62bff7d4d0d3d7af293a42d80a29be031f0a (output 1) 0.03906250 BTC
021f5d99ad2ddbaeacd2be982343e1994ebdf5a6e86fe1cc95c29a0533ba6b9f (output 1) 0.43847759 BTC
5e2c6e2e1cffed5f800e696dc3ab50bb6f99afa2e85940c0ce337fbae9e26354 (output 1) 0.02000000 BTC
103dd3e7eea4e7ba208afa2ecf7d150decbb794b30ba8d740fe36070da50441f (output 1) 0.01000000 BTC

Rightnow i think, satoshidice really f*cked something up.

I haven't yet looked through all of these but on the ones I have checked the issue seems to be from this issue in BitcoinJ:
http://code.google.com/p/bitcoinj/issues/detail?id=192

I can probably process some of them through by hand while we try to work on a better solution.  The bottom line is for whatever reason these transactions were created with inputs from unusual (but still valid) scripts.

[fireduck]

New feature: Progressive Games

They accumulate a jackpot until someone wins.

http://satoshidice.com/progressive.php

An example transaction:
http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=6cfa5722491e43d7a3657e74561129689352c946890de73d4807a54fc0a48a01

[dooglus]

There are 8 bets which are more than a week old and which haven't yet been spent in a block.  Every bet should be used to fund (part of) the transaction that's sent back to the bettor.  What happened to these 8?

968a692ab98b1f275c635c76be003ab1db9740d0b62f338b270115342ca42f5b (output 1) 0.10000000 BTC
ad4866a91ce24c624f3582aa87b19cd8e55361c31315b9d79d80084730697c14 (output 0) 0.10000000 BTC
bea477ad898c961642876207e65c0f7700581e3c839987e5de151dd640a7eaa0 (output 1) 0.04000000 BTC
010bc3ccaab3394915e6e1ecd026c126572f21501d6d89ca5efc7f3970df554d (output 3) 2.30000000 BTC
0e67d2804b78cd32fcac334b807b62bff7d4d0d3d7af293a42d80a29be031f0a (output 1) 0.03906250 BTC
021f5d99ad2ddbaeacd2be982343e1994ebdf5a6e86fe1cc95c29a0533ba6b9f (output 1) 0.43847759 BTC
5e2c6e2e1cffed5f800e696dc3ab50bb6f99afa2e85940c0ce337fbae9e26354 (output 1) 0.02000000 BTC
103dd3e7eea4e7ba208afa2ecf7d150decbb794b30ba8d740fe36070da50441f (output 1) 0.01000000 BTC

I haven't yet looked through all of these but on the ones I have checked the issue seems to be from this issue in BitcoinJ:
http://code.google.com/p/bitcoinj/issues/detail?id=192

I can probably process some of them through by hand while we try to work on a better solution.  The bottom line is for whatever reason these transactions were created with inputs from unusual (but still valid) scripts.

The first 3 have weird input scripts (one paid to a pubkey, and two paid to anyone who could find an address with the correct 160 bit hash).  The last 5 look pretty vanilla.

[fireduck]

The first 3 have weird input scripts (one paid to a pubkey, and two paid to anyone who could find an address with the correct 160 bit hash).  The last 5 look pretty vanilla.

Yeah, those look fine.  I'm reimporting all the blocks now, which will take some time.  Maybe some transactions didn't make it into the database and thus didn't get processed.  I have something to prevent that now but it might have happened.

[dooglus]

Yeah, those look fine.  I'm reimporting all the blocks now, which will take some time.  Maybe some transactions didn't make it into the database and thus didn't get processed.  I have something to prevent that now but it might have happened.

If you let me know when the reimport has finished, and what block was the newest when you ran it, I'll let you know if any transactions are outstanding after that.

[fireduck]

JSON document of bet options:
http://satoshidice.com/bet-options.php

[Stephen Gornick]

Heh ... don't look now but SatoshiDICE just got even easier to use:



 - http://blockchain.info/wallet

From your Blockchain.info wallet, click Send Money, then on the left is "Games - Satoshi Dice".

The balance will update with your win or loss, or you can click Transactions.  It will update in real-time.

[evoorhees]

OMG I just saw the Blockchain.info auto plugin for SatoshiDice!!! I didn't even request that he add it, but now I will have to send him money and hookers, cause that is the coolest thing ever. Way more fun that just playing from a desktop client. 

[runlinux]

omg... why... now its easier for me to blow money... ungh... trying to save up for my island!