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June 22, 2012, 07:01:35 PM |
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House edge is about to be temporarily raised to 3% from 1.5%.
For how long and what purpose? When I saw that message I thought "they must be losing a lot and need to recover some of their losses" and went to track down etotheipi's thread where he posts statistics about satoshidice and how much they are up or down. I found it here: https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=80312 but it hasn't been updated since 11th June (at which point the house was down 700 BTC). Then I downloaded the script that he uses to generate that report with a view to making an up-to-date report, but I couldn't get it to run.
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June 22, 2012, 08:20:09 PM Last edit: June 22, 2012, 09:19:22 PM by dooglus |
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Then I downloaded the script that he uses to generate that report with a view to making an up-to-date report, but I couldn't get it to run.
I figured it out. I posted an update here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg982716#msg982716It looks like the house is 215 BTC down, hence the increasing house edge.
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June 23, 2012, 05:16:19 PM |
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The "lessthan 64000" bet has a maximum bet of -154.5618 BTC. If I bet negative bitcoins, does the house have a -3% edge? Also, the banner at the top of the page still says "over 98% breakeven odds", which is apparently no longer true.
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June 23, 2012, 10:03:23 PM |
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and what purpose?
maybe because there is no other protection against mining attacks than to make it unprofitable? here's the tactic. if i mine, i make sure each block that i mine double spends all my losing bets that haven't confirmed. with 1.5% house edge a lone miner might be profitable doing this with anything over a couple percent of mining capacity. with a 3% house edge now you'ld need a much bigger chunk.
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June 24, 2012, 12:51:29 PM |
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How often are the UNKOWN Transactions updated and resent ?
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June 24, 2012, 02:13:23 PM Last edit: June 24, 2012, 05:08:59 PM by Fredyy |
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June 24, 2012, 10:55:28 PM |
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There are 8 bets which are more than a week old and which haven't yet been spent in a block. Every bet should be used to fund (part of) the transaction that's sent back to the bettor. What happened to these 8?
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June 25, 2012, 09:27:04 AM |
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There are 8 bets which are more than a week old and which haven't yet been spent in a block. Every bet should be used to fund (part of) the transaction that's sent back to the bettor. What happened to these 8? Rightnow i think, satoshidice really f*cked something up.
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June 25, 2012, 05:29:06 PM |
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Maybe this has been up before, but what's the point having hundreds of recent bets on the front page? It often jams my opera making the site (and my laptop) pretty much unusable. For Satoshi's sake, I hope the page is not dynamic... I have actually thought the same thing. Especially with CloudFlare they are losing a lot of the benifit. It is dynamic like a fox. Also, it is CloudFront, not CloudFlare.
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June 25, 2012, 05:32:56 PM |
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There are 8 bets which are more than a week old and which haven't yet been spent in a block. Every bet should be used to fund (part of) the transaction that's sent back to the bettor. What happened to these 8? Rightnow i think, satoshidice really f*cked something up. I haven't yet looked through all of these but on the ones I have checked the issue seems to be from this issue in BitcoinJ: http://code.google.com/p/bitcoinj/issues/detail?id=192I can probably process some of them through by hand while we try to work on a better solution. The bottom line is for whatever reason these transactions were created with inputs from unusual (but still valid) scripts.
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June 25, 2012, 05:34:48 PM |
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dooglus
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June 25, 2012, 05:49:34 PM |
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There are 8 bets which are more than a week old and which haven't yet been spent in a block. Every bet should be used to fund (part of) the transaction that's sent back to the bettor. What happened to these 8? I haven't yet looked through all of these but on the ones I have checked the issue seems to be from this issue in BitcoinJ: http://code.google.com/p/bitcoinj/issues/detail?id=192I can probably process some of them through by hand while we try to work on a better solution. The bottom line is for whatever reason these transactions were created with inputs from unusual (but still valid) scripts. The first 3 have weird input scripts (one paid to a pubkey, and two paid to anyone who could find an address with the correct 160 bit hash). The last 5 look pretty vanilla.
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June 25, 2012, 06:08:23 PM |
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The first 3 have weird input scripts (one paid to a pubkey, and two paid to anyone who could find an address with the correct 160 bit hash). The last 5 look pretty vanilla.
Yeah, those look fine. I'm reimporting all the blocks now, which will take some time. Maybe some transactions didn't make it into the database and thus didn't get processed. I have something to prevent that now but it might have happened.
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dooglus
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June 25, 2012, 06:41:17 PM |
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Yeah, those look fine. I'm reimporting all the blocks now, which will take some time. Maybe some transactions didn't make it into the database and thus didn't get processed. I have something to prevent that now but it might have happened.
If you let me know when the reimport has finished, and what block was the newest when you ran it, I'll let you know if any transactions are outstanding after that.
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June 25, 2012, 10:22:37 PM |
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June 25, 2012, 10:51:53 PM |
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Heh ... don't look now but SatoshiDICE just got even easier to use: - http://blockchain.info/walletFrom your Blockchain.info wallet, click Send Money, then on the left is "Games - Satoshi Dice". The balance will update with your win or loss, or you can click Transactions. It will update in real-time.
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June 26, 2012, 06:24:31 PM |
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OMG I just saw the Blockchain.info auto plugin for SatoshiDice!!! I didn't even request that he add it, but now I will have to send him money and hookers, cause that is the coolest thing ever. Way more fun that just playing from a desktop client.
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June 26, 2012, 06:26:14 PM |
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omg... why... now its easier for me to blow money... ungh... trying to save up for my island!
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