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Author Topic: SatoshiDICE.com - The World's Most Popular Bitcoin Game  (Read 398495 times)
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February 06, 2013, 06:22:04 AM
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It really does make no difference because the numbers are truely random and are used only once for each game- you can't bet against another player, only against the house, so it wouldn't catch on.

Your argument is similar to saying that we don't need the 'red' bet on a roulette table, since there's no difference between 'red' and 'black'.

Mathematically that's true, but players like to feel like they have some control.  If you feel the lucky number is going to be high next time you play, wouldn't you like to be able to play "over 32767" instead of "lessthan 32768"?

And how many people would bet each way (both over and less than x) and think they have a fool proof way of beating the house? It might take over from martingale strategies.

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February 06, 2013, 04:09:30 PM
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It really does make no difference because the numbers are truely random and are used only once for each game- you can't bet against another player, only against the house, so it wouldn't catch on.

Your argument is similar to saying that we don't need the 'red' bet on a roulette table, since there's no difference between 'red' and 'black'.

Mathematically that's true, but players like to feel like they have some control.  If you feel the lucky number is going to be high next time you play, wouldn't you like to be able to play "over 32767" instead of "lessthan 32768"?

That's the exact reason why I suggested it. While mathematically it makes no difference, the unaware gambler may misinterpret this as something they can use to their advantage which may lead to more volume.
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February 06, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
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Ah nice - help people 'feel' better about their delusions Smiley

The whole premise of any kind of gambling seems to be "we'll pay you .98 times what we should, according to the true odds of you winning".  That's clearly a bad deal for the gambler, but once we've somehow decided that it's OK to offer a bad deal to people who are (willing|mathematically challenged enough) to take it, I don't see how offering two different ways of taking the same deal is any worse than offering just the one.

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February 06, 2013, 10:26:34 PM
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Ah nice - help people 'feel' better about their delusions Smiley

The whole premise of any kind of gambling seems to be "we'll pay you .98 times what we should, according to the true odds of you winning".  That's clearly a bad deal for the gambler, but once we've somehow decided that it's OK to offer a bad deal to people who are (willing|mathematically challenged enough) to take it, I don't see how offering two different ways of taking the same deal is any worse than offering just the one.

Sigh, having to explain a post ...

It really does make no difference because the numbers are truely random and are used only once for each game- you can't bet against another player, only against the house, so it wouldn't catch on.

Your argument is similar to saying that we don't need the 'red' bet on a roulette table, since there's no difference between 'red' and 'black'.

Mathematically that's true, but players like to feel like they have some control.  If you feel the lucky number is going to be high next time you play, wouldn't you like to be able to play "over 32767" instead of "lessthan 32768"?

In case you had some idea that those highlighted quotes were anything else ... no they are delusions.

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February 09, 2013, 12:13:24 AM
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I have bets over 2 hours old that have 10+ confirmations and the responses are coming in, but only 1 every 10-20 mins.

wtf is going on? I have fee set to .0005 so it shouldn't be related to that.

There is one address that is betting A TON every few seconds, probably botting and almost all the bets are 1+ btc.
It's almost like you're getting DDOS'd with bets.

Is anyone else experiencing this? I mess around on dice quite a bit but it's really getting so slow I don't think I'm going to be able to play anymore.

A couple weeks ago I could put in a bet, get a response in 5-10 seconds and go again. Lately it's been taking at least 5 mins for responses.
Even a 2-3 minute round trip really takes all the fun out of it and I don't think people will keep playing as much if it stays this way.
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February 09, 2013, 12:22:43 AM
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I have bets over 2 hours old that have 10+ confirmations and the responses are coming in, but only 1 every 10-20 mins.

wtf is going on? I have fee set to .0005 so it shouldn't be related to that.

There is one address that is betting A TON every few seconds, probably botting and almost all the bets are 1+ btc.
It's almost like you're getting DDOS'd with bets.

Is anyone else experiencing this? I mess around on dice quite a bit but it's really getting so slow I don't think I'm going to be able to play anymore.

A couple weeks ago I could put in a bet, get a response in 5-10 seconds and go again. Lately it's been taking at least 5 mins for responses.
Even a 2-3 minute round trip really takes all the fun out of it and I don't think people will keep playing as much if it stays this way.

The bots kill this game for hoomans. Used to get responses in 1 second and you could actually see the history instead of just a flashing screen.
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February 09, 2013, 12:24:21 AM
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Sometimes instant sometimes long. depends on how much I bet I think.
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February 09, 2013, 12:28:20 AM
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The bots kill this game for hoomans. Used to get responses in 1 second and you could actually see the history instead of just a flashing screen.

It wouldn't be so bad if I could at least see the transaction on DICE in the history. I get them instantly when they send them, it's that they are not being processed for 45+ minutes.

It's not even fun anymore, just stressful Sad
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February 09, 2013, 01:20:35 AM
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The bots kill this game for hoomans. Used to get responses in 1 second and you could actually see the history instead of just a flashing screen.

It wouldn't be so bad if I could at least see the transaction on DICE in the history. I get them instantly when they send them, it's that they are not being processed for 45+ minutes.

It's not even fun anymore, just stressful Sad

I agree
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February 09, 2013, 02:01:47 AM
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The bots kill this game for hoomans. Used to get responses in 1 second and you could actually see the history instead of just a flashing screen.

It wouldn't be so bad if I could at least see the transaction on DICE in the history. I get them instantly when they send them, it's that they are not being processed for 45+ minutes.

It's not even fun anymore, just stressful Sad

I agree

Same here. I just went back to my SDICE wallet after about a week to send in a bet or two and it hasn't taken my first bet yet. It's been 10 minutes on a wait that's supposed to be a few seconds. Major bummer.
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February 09, 2013, 02:25:39 AM
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Hey guys, sorry for the play delays today. Server is running slowly. I don't think it's bot bets that are doing it, because the bet qty is not abnormal, and most days are higher than today actually.

We're tinkering around with some things and hope to have it improved shortly.
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February 09, 2013, 02:55:41 AM
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Yeah my bets aren't even coming back in any type of recognizable order which is ironic because the first 4 were larger bets (for me anyway) and the ones I'm getting once every 10-20 minutes were placed way afterwards.

Thanks for looking into it, I wish there was a secondary set of bet wallets to split the load.

Is the server that processes the bets the same as the site is displayed from?
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February 09, 2013, 03:12:10 AM
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This is weird, I'm getting them back one at a time at exactly 10 minute intervals. An I caught in some type of filter? My bets of 5, 2, 2, 2 are still no-shows, blockchain shows they went through as normal to the Duce address and alot of confirmation but they have never processed and it's been 5 hours now =\ they are getting skipped over by newer bets.
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February 09, 2013, 03:41:54 AM
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I've gotten one of the two bets I made back, but it's been 30 minutes since I got it. Not sure what happened to the other one.
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February 09, 2013, 03:47:52 AM
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Looks like it's starting to catch up to the backlog.

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February 09, 2013, 06:36:37 PM
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Looks like it's starting to catch up to the backlog.

Yep, we fixed a big problem last night. There had been a flurry of tiny transactions (perhaps meant as a DDoS of some kind) which was causing hangs for the database. Problem has been solved, and bets are running very quick right now. A bunch of stuck transactions also go cleared out from the past few days. Enjoy!

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February 09, 2013, 10:05:15 PM
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Looks like it's starting to catch up to the backlog.

Yep, we fixed a big problem last night. There had been a flurry of tiny transactions (perhaps meant as a DDoS of some kind) which was causing hangs for the database. Problem has been solved, and bets are running very quick right now. A bunch of stuck transactions also go cleared out from the past few days. Enjoy!

Would be interesting to trace the source ... as anyone with the time and the inclination could do Smiley

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February 10, 2013, 01:49:07 AM
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The site is very slow on me right now, bet counter/betcoins won/bets tab, do not show up
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February 10, 2013, 01:59:12 AM
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The site is very slow on me right now, bet counter/betcoins won/bets tab, do not show up

Same here

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February 11, 2013, 05:36:28 PM
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evoorhees,

Can you confirm that bets over a certain amount now do not process until 1 confirmation?

I seem to be able to get 1.00 btc to respond immediately on occasion, but anything north of that appears to get held until 1 confirmation.

Is that normal across the board or is there some type of filtering that causes this? I'm just wondering if there is something slowing me down so that I can play without waiting 10-15 mins between bets since I am usually betting over 1btc.

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