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August 17, 2012, 04:10:41 PM
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how do I send a bet to 50% odd multiple times?

i tried doing it but it says cannot send to a duplicate address

im doing it in my pc wallet not online

You are using the standard Satoshi client on your PC?

In the Send Coins tab, you can click the "Add recipient" button at the bottom and add more bets to the same address I believe. Or is that what you already tried?
Would there be any reason to send multiple bets to the same dice in the same transaction? Wouldn't they have the same number? so pay the same as if you just put it into one bet... but with double the return fee?

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August 17, 2012, 06:37:19 PM
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hi,

how do I send a bet to 50% odd multiple times?

i tried doing it but it says cannot send to a duplicate address

im doing it in my pc wallet not online

You are using the standard Satoshi client on your PC?

In the Send Coins tab, you can click the "Add recipient" button at the bottom and add more bets to the same address I believe. Or is that what you already tried?
Would there be any reason to send multiple bets to the same dice in the same transaction? Wouldn't they have the same number? so pay the same as if you just put it into one bet... but with double the return fee?

Trying to bypass the max bet limit.
BTW, that doesn't work Wink
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August 18, 2012, 03:35:08 PM
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LOL yeah that trick used to work but no longer Smiley
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August 20, 2012, 04:26:54 AM
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UPDATE AUG 19, 2012: SatoshiDICE is releasing IPO shares
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101902.0

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August 21, 2012, 02:10:30 PM
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Gamma SatoshiDICE Pass Through is now up and running Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102181.msg1119046#msg1119046
We will enable you to buy shares without having a account on MPex, all the reward with none of the hazzle!
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August 22, 2012, 02:36:06 PM
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and I've gambled away my last 2BTC, darn you SD!! =p
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August 22, 2012, 05:31:07 PM
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What kind of wait should i expect for a bet that shows
Payment TX Status: UNKNOWN

Processed time: 2012-08-20 21:12:49
Outcome: WIN

http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=9ecaa63fa49649208972517c9971b59857bd3357f3d03d349464f44277764819

Huh

These "sticky" bets occur occassionally, but they all process. Please PM me if it takes more than 24 hrs from now. My apologies for the delay.

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August 22, 2012, 10:28:55 PM
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hi,

how do I send a bet to 50% odd multiple times?

i tried doing it but it says cannot send to a duplicate address

im doing it in my pc wallet not online

I believe that a transaction with multiple outputs to the same address would be creating two duplicate payments as far as Bitcoin is concerned. Both transaction outputs would be contained in a transaction with the same hash, and one could be spent, but not the other (much the same as the duplicate coinbase bug). You can multisend to all the different bet addresses at once though, and if you hit 0 on max bets you might even bust the house.

The code to comment out is at lines 950-952 of bitcoinrpc.cpp if you want to try to send some invalid transactions at satoshidice for shits and giggles.
 
You can bet that it's below 50% and bet that it's above 50% at the same time by just keeping your money and send me 1.9% of what you wanted to bet for the advice.
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August 23, 2012, 04:10:29 PM
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I believe that a transaction with multiple outputs to the same address would be creating two duplicate payments as far as Bitcoin is concerned. Both transaction outputs would be contained in a transaction with the same hash, and one could be spent, but not the other (much the same as the duplicate coinbase bug). You can multisend to all the different bet addresses at once though, and if you hit 0 on max bets you might even bust the house.

The code to comment out is at lines 950-952 of bitcoinrpc.cpp if you want to try to send some invalid transactions at satoshidice for shits and giggles.
 
You can bet that it's below 50% and bet that it's above 50% at the same time by just keeping your money and send me 1.9% of what you wanted to bet for the advice.

There's nothing in the protocol to stop you sending two outputs to the same address.  What you say about only one of the two being spendable is completely wrong, since when you spend an output you refer to the transaction ID and the output number.  That uniquely identifies the output you're spending.

The satoshi client doesn't allow you to send 2 outputs to the same address, but presumably other clients do, since we see such bets all the time being sent to satoshidice.

You can't bet "above 50%" at satoshidice.  All bets are "lessthan X".

Here's an example transaction:
http://blockexplorer.com/t/3RmgrQ7WPK

Notice how all 4 outputs have since been spent.

And here it is at satoshidice:
http://www.satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=400bea64815ce2035310f7caebdf5c3ce0ddd36bff11aece85ab20baa8b47496

Only 2 of the 3 bets were accepted, since the 3rd would have put it over the max bet allowed (0.05 BTC).  So there's (now) no benefit to sending multiple bets to the same address.  It used to be a way to avoid the maximum bet limit, but that has since been fixed, as shown in the previous link.

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August 23, 2012, 04:58:32 PM
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Pardon me for not reading the entire thread if this is in here:

Suggested feature: I'd like to accept tips via SD. I would get a unique address via SD for the bet I want (ie less than 4000), and a payout address.

My thinking is that a site operator gets more tips if there is a chance a 0.05 tip could turn into a 1+ btc tip for the tipper.

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August 23, 2012, 05:47:25 PM
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Pardon me for not reading the entire thread if this is in here:

Suggested feature: I'd like to accept tips via SD. I would get a unique address via SD for the bet I want (ie less than 4000), and a payout address.

My thinking is that a site operator gets more tips if there is a chance a 0.05 tip could turn into a 1+ btc tip for the tipper.
Wow that's a good idea. It could work several ways:

1. The tipper's tip could be split into a bet part and a non-bet part
1. a. The winnings could be sent to the tipper
1. b. The winnings could be sent to the tippee
2. Or, the tip could be sent entirely to the bet
2. a. The tippee could receive all the winnings
2. b. The tipper could receive part of the winnings

The question is, which one of these 4 would result in the most tips, and which one of these 4 would result in the tippee gaining the most money?
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August 23, 2012, 07:46:52 PM
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Can you check on this one for me?

http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=8cb0761977423b8a0829ebdef8365da4a96320f7f3b4aeef590aa44dc9662129
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August 23, 2012, 07:53:16 PM
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i also have a couple of bets that are stuck

http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=2688d8e5b3437af84e28117f28d9e81eef0ec77051fff7fe64579389a1576fb8

http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=2688d8e5b3437af84e28117f28d9e81eef0ec77051fff7fe64579389a1576fb8

and these two haven't even showed up on satoshidice yet..

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/16987554/91be828620bb1849203c570b2b4eec54a8d02d55d7bc19eb3df5db9ec53fd68c

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/16986953/41ea9bc671206ea6cd9d134c461217d977755f9430ec25294f3bd573a2a658ff

can someone check on them for me?
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August 23, 2012, 08:39:39 PM
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Apologies for the inconvenience of those stuck payments - please PM me if they are still stuck in 24 hrs (they all get unstuck eventually, some are just finicky).
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August 23, 2012, 08:42:00 PM
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There are only a few which have been stuck for more than 24 hours:

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6071357b4e24964f398de274e55c85cadaf33e1f54acaa284a7dfc23933feff3   0 191269 17:47:08 Jul-28-12         1.00000000 1dicegEA 14q94SKrm8W3yBzhi2BZ8xm8VJvPWcXAMG
18455d8b2020cef49579fa2f024375a43e242f4bb0c303cba526327944c65e46   0 191269 17:47:08 Jul-28-12         1.00000000 1dicegEA 14q94SKrm8W3yBzhi2BZ8xm8VJvPWcXAMG
accf0d01f0ee50ff12fc661345ea1c2608fc497aa3a7baf004f70f8210fae654   1 192798 17:28:18 Aug-07-12         0.40000000 1dicegEA 1DvHQKGENEjqKBj86JdhTjr5iK18hVr9HF
e636f45b62073dab7d1ec1533a02a707e1ec09064d38a583b567f68fa5077498   2 193937 17:44:47 Aug-14-12         0.10000000 1dice6Yg 1PDo5MEZ4uFcB6pCN21VXq4mQpkXnjGnUD


Notice the VayNert one has been stuck for over a month!

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August 23, 2012, 08:47:14 PM
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Apologies for the inconvenience of those stuck payments - please PM me if they are still stuck in 24 hrs (they all get unstuck eventually, some are just finicky).

no problem, it seems that 1 out of the 4 have been paid out.  Thanks for the prompt reply evoorhees! i just want them to clear so i can keep on playing!!
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August 24, 2012, 09:34:42 PM
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Apologies for the inconvenience of those stuck payments - please PM me if they are still stuck in 24 hrs (they all get unstuck eventually, some are just finicky).
Hey evoorhees, I've sent you a pm with the 2 links which are still stuck, please let me know.
Thanks
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August 30, 2012, 06:52:08 PM
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What is this new "progress game" thing? I don't really understand how it works, can you add a explanation to the page?

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August 30, 2012, 09:59:36 PM
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What is this new "progress game" thing? I don't really understand how it works, can you add a explanation to the page?

You should read http://www.satoshidice.com/progressive.php - that tells all about how the progressive game works.  There's a link to it in the 'learn more' section in the top right corner of the main SD page.

Basically, every 0.25 BTC you send to 1DiCestoZZ3mLsfgyT3FiLEhwv53Jx3sgj counts as one bet.  Each bet has a chance of winning the jackpot.  Currently the jackpot is 331.9929 BTC and each bet has a 0.04895% chance of winning it.  The jackpot will go up and the chance of winning will go down with each set of bets.

You can send any multiple of 0.25 BTC to the address to play multiple times with a single transaction, but I think you get very slightly worse odds that way than betting in single 0.25 amounts.

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September 06, 2012, 07:30:34 PM
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SatoshiDICE recently took the top spot  Wink  And 6 of the top 7 addresses in the world are SatoshiDICE.

http://blockchain.info/popular-addresses
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