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December 10, 2012, 08:30:59 PM
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I just tried running my daily satoshidice analysis script and it failed due to what looks like a bug at satoshidice.

It seems satoshidice is ignoring some bets.  For example, here's a transaction that bets 1 satoshi on all 27 satoshidice bets:

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/35990938

and here's the corresponding entry at satoshidice.com:

http://www.satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=019db000be71e7b53a90df9f45f5b466cc387d65c737e7ab2cd27dac69c39014

Notice that satoshidice only thinks there's 19 bets in that transaction.  It misses 8 of them.  Usually even when it's slow to pay out some of the bets in a transaction it at least lists them as 'unknown' or 'pending'.  But in this case it doesn't even list the missing 8 bets.

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December 10, 2012, 08:37:18 PM
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I would support SatoshiDice just keeping the "Below Min" bets as donations.  I don't have a problem at all with it.  It would make this kind of attack expensive and obsolete.


This actually is a good idea.

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December 10, 2012, 08:48:19 PM
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I would support SatoshiDice just keeping the "Below Min" bets as donations.  I don't have a problem at all with it.  It would make this kind of attack expensive and obsolete.


This actually is a good idea.

It's a good idea so long as they give some notice.  If I was running a bot that sent thousands of 0.001 bets when they suddenly and without notice changed the min bet to 0.01 last week I would be pretty pissed.

I would suggest returning the bets as "under min" for a week or two whenever the min bet is increased, and only after then keeping those bets.

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December 10, 2012, 09:11:49 PM
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Is there something wrong with SatoshiDice today? I am not getting my payout until 1-2 confirmations...

... I've made a change such that once the available funds drops below a certain point Satoshidice will only process bets that meet our isLegit() check.  This check passes if the transaction is confirmed or if the transaction and all its UNCONFIRMED parents are known by Satoshidice and have a fee of at least 0.0005 BTC and if the depth of unconfirmed parents is less than 8.  ...

I find that if you enclose a 0.0005 fee, then bets pay out pretty quickly.

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December 10, 2012, 09:24:32 PM
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It's a good idea so long as they give some notice.  If I was running a bot that sent thousands of 0.001 bets when they suddenly and without notice changed the min bet to 0.01 last week I would be pretty pissed.

I would suggest returning the bets as "under min" for a week or two whenever the min bet is increased, and only after then keeping those bets.

Well in fairness if you're using an undocumented feature which ceases to work you can be as pissed as you want but it's still how things go. Not that I don't agree with the principle of giving notice, just saying.

Something will have to be done at any rate, I think.

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December 10, 2012, 09:30:52 PM
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It seems satoshidice is ignoring some bets.

Maybe now they're ignoring all tiny bets.

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/36036145 is a transaction where none of the bets have been processed at all.

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December 11, 2012, 01:18:04 AM
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It seems satoshidice is ignoring some bets.

Maybe now they're ignoring all tiny bets.

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/36036145 is a transaction where none of the bets have been processed at all.
Then don't bet tiny amounts. Problem solved.
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December 11, 2012, 08:26:29 PM
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I've been playing a little today for the fun of it.  Any idea why this bet seems to be completely ignored?  Ive made bets after this and they all processed fine.  It was only a bet of .04 so its not like I'm waiting on a huge payout or something!

http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=3a94450bd49309a3c62aa5ad589b8e37c13e8ae9f8987117e63e28050c87d9e3

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December 11, 2012, 08:39:02 PM
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I've been playing a little today for the fun of it.  Any idea why this bet seems to be completely ignored?  Ive made bets after this and they all processed fine.  It was only a bet of .04 so its not like I'm waiting on a huge payout or something!

http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=3a94450bd49309a3c62aa5ad589b8e37c13e8ae9f8987117e63e28050c87d9e3

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This transaction didn't reach SD. U r supposed to wait until it's included into a block.
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December 11, 2012, 08:47:52 PM
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Yeah I just came to update that it came through just a couple of minutes ago.

Ive never had that happen before.  Next time I know just to be a little more patient!

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December 13, 2012, 07:11:04 AM
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Im assuming satoshidice ran out of money hence the delays in payout's then they raised the min's to screw all the small time martingaler's and bring the pot back up i could be *completely* wrong but it would appear that way

either way im stopping playing till the min's go back down ..

SD has not "ran out of money." November was actually one of the best months yet for house returns.


I'd be willing to be December will be as well...

I'm curious, can you guys (or someone) pull statistics for each one of your "bet addresses" to see just how far off their actual win percentage is from their win odds? If possible... I would love to see what they are from November 1 to present.
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December 13, 2012, 10:50:36 AM
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Im assuming satoshidice ran out of money hence the delays in payout's then they raised the min's to screw all the small time martingaler's and bring the pot back up i could be *completely* wrong but it would appear that way

either way im stopping playing till the min's go back down ..

SD has not "ran out of money." November was actually one of the best months yet for house returns.


I'd be willing to be December will be as well...

I'm curious, can you guys (or someone) pull statistics for each one of your "bet addresses" to see just how far off their actual win percentage is from their win odds? If possible... I would love to see what they are from November 1 to present.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1395418#msg1395418
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December 13, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
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Im assuming satoshidice ran out of money hence the delays in payout's then they raised the min's to screw all the small time martingaler's and bring the pot back up i could be *completely* wrong but it would appear that way

either way im stopping playing till the min's go back down ..

SD has not "ran out of money." November was actually one of the best months yet for house returns.


I'd be willing to be December will be as well...

I'm curious, can you guys (or someone) pull statistics for each one of your "bet addresses" to see just how far off their actual win percentage is from their win odds? If possible... I would love to see what they are from November 1 to present.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1395418#msg1395418

Awesome. Thanks!!!

And I'll publicly state my apology for not searching... For whatever reason, I didn't think such thing would already exist! haha
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December 14, 2012, 12:20:25 AM
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http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=16zvt8B&limit=100&min_bet=0&status=ALL

   Pay Status: UNKNOWN

You have to wait a little longer, if it takes longer than 24h you should contact the SD

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December 14, 2012, 01:26:58 AM
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http://satoshidice.com/lookup.php?tx=16zvt8B&limit=100&min_bet=0&status=ALL

   Pay Status: UNKNOWN

You have to wait a little longer, if it takes longer than 24h you should contact the SD

Thanks 2GOOG... How do I contact the SD? On the bottom of their site it says "BitcoinTalk.org"... haha

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December 14, 2012, 06:46:47 PM
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"UNKNOWN" payments have always ended up being paid in the past.  I've seen it take 4 or 5 days at worst.  I'm not sure that complaining about it has much effect, but it's hard to tell.

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December 14, 2012, 08:18:47 PM
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Hey, why the return transaction fee is 0.001 BTC, It takes from me 0.0005 and 0.0005 from SD is that correct.. or the whole 0.001 is from my winning  Huh

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December 14, 2012, 08:42:47 PM
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Hey, why the return transaction fee is 0.001 BTC, It takes from me 0.0005 and 0.0005 from SD is that correct.. or the whole 0.001 is from my winning  Huh

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If u included lessthan 512 that time u would get other lucky number. So be happy u didn't do that.
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December 14, 2012, 09:03:57 PM
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Hey, why the return transaction fee is 0.001 BTC, It takes from me 0.0005 and 0.0005 from SD is that correct.. or the whole 0.001 is from my winning  Huh

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If u included lessthan 512 that time u would get other lucky number. So be happy u didn't do that.

As a great Bulgarian footballer once said: "Sometime Lun, sometime Win", so you are right, but still with a lot of play you get the chance to win... sometimes Wink

As stated before, IMO it will be good to return the small bets for bellow 4000 addresses.

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December 15, 2012, 12:11:43 AM
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HELP! I'm missing "Winning's Transactions" AND I didn't get the normal 0.00000001 when you loose... Aghh... Do you guys know who I can talk with to get some help?

I've made a few bets, but they say "WON" as the status, but when I try to search for the "Payment" transaction, BlockChain.info says it doesn't exist!
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I'm not seeing the payments in my Bitcoin-QA Wallet program either...

Here are the transactions I'm talking about... Click on the "Payment TX:" link....

http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=b2a6d7b17d461cfc93008ba84087cb19290d850908cd0b4ec8d376c736aa244c
http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=7c38f7fc13f8b1012a9784092caee2e6093825b735769ca36475e79c9fa4d3e4
http://www.satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=b2a6d7b17d461cfc93008ba84087cb19290d850908cd0b4ec8d376c736aa244c

I didn't get any of these transactions from above..   Cry

BlockChain says that it doesn't exist... Hopefully this is just an error and this can be resolved, but I need to get a hold of these guys..



I'm getting a lot of these.. I'm going to stop playing until I see these drop into my wallet... I would love to get an explanation if this is normal activity or not... Does anyone else see this happen??

I hope, for your sake, that you don't have the same issue I (and several others) had a couple of months ago where they "lost" our transactions and basically said "get bent" when I attempted to produce proof of my winning bets through blockchain.info.

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