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May 05, 2012, 02:14:26 AM
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Here is an easier double spend attack:

5. Bet transaction that won't confirm: Intentionally construct a bet transaction that miners won't include in blocks due to fee rules.  Then after you see whether you won or lost, you have plenty of time to mine your own block that includes either the bet and payout transactions or a double spend of the bet transaction.  Of course not all miners follow identical rules so you may not have an arbitrarily long amount of time to mine the block, but it makes the attack much more feasible and profitable than if you had to mine the very next block.
The Bitcoin network protocol was designed to be extremely flexible. It can be used to create timed transactions, escrow transactions, multi-signature transactions, etc. The current features of the client only hint at what will be possible in the future.
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May 05, 2012, 12:59:50 PM
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Now I have to refresh the page everytime, are you thinking about adding ajax update of all results?

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May 06, 2012, 12:00:40 PM
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+1

Auto-update would be nice.
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May 06, 2012, 01:39:43 PM
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I think the less than 24000's max bet is wrong, it's more than the less than 32000's max bet:

lessthan 16000   1dice7fUkz5h4z2wPc1wLMPWgB5mDwKDx    24.4141%   4.063x   0.818%   99.182%   0.0010   55.8718
lessthan 24000   1dice7W2AicHosf5EL3GFDUVga7TgtPFn    36.6211%   2.708x   0.818%   99.182%   0.0010   100.1605
lessthan 32000   1dice8EMZmqKvrGE4Qc9bUFf9PX3xaYDp    48.8281%   2.031x   0.818%   99.182%   0.0010   99.5534

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May 06, 2012, 01:44:53 PM
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I think the less than 24000's max bet is wrong, it's more than the less than 32000's max bet:

lessthan 16000   1dice7fUkz5h4z2wPc1wLMPWgB5mDwKDx    24.4141%   4.063x   0.818%   99.182%   0.0010   55.8718
lessthan 24000   1dice7W2AicHosf5EL3GFDUVga7TgtPFn    36.6211%   2.708x   0.818%   99.182%   0.0010   100.1605
lessthan 32000   1dice8EMZmqKvrGE4Qc9bUFf9PX3xaYDp    48.8281%   2.031x   0.818%   99.182%   0.0010   99.5534

The max is based on the the prize multiplier and some modeling related to the win percentage.  Due to this, the numbers are not linear like you would expect.

In short, the max bet on 24000 might be higher because the system calculates it is safe to do so because people are less likely to win it and run the house out of money.

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May 06, 2012, 02:08:23 PM
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Seems it's down ?

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May 06, 2012, 02:23:51 PM
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Seems it's down ?

Yeah, I am rebuilding the wallet to try to include some transactions that got missed somehow.

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May 06, 2012, 02:47:51 PM
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Seems it's down ?

Yeah, I am rebuilding the wallet to try to include some transactions that got missed somehow.

Do you have an estimate on how long that will take?

(Not really being impatient, I just wanted an excuse to have this thread show up under "show new replies to your posts"  Grin)

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May 06, 2012, 02:52:58 PM
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Do you have an estimate on how long that will take?

The rebuild I just completed failed, so I'm guessing probably another hour.  Sorry.

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May 06, 2012, 03:05:26 PM
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Whew!

Glad to hear, I've been waiting quite a while now to find out if I won my last wager or not! Hoping I get my other wins back soon too...

Lost (11) 48000 bets in a row and finally won 2 at like 20BTC or so! ...been so long now I can't remember LOL


How much longer are you thinking? The site (and payouts) have been down for a couple of hours now  Shocked
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May 06, 2012, 03:48:48 PM
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wow you did, are you sure? that's really unlucky, I just ran a simulation, out of 10M rounds, it happened once....

Whew!

Glad to hear, I've been waiting quite a while now to find out if I won my last wager or not! Hoping I get my other wins back soon too...

Lost (11) 48000 bets in a row and finally won 2 at like 20BTC or so! ...been so long now I can't remember LOL


How much longer are you thinking? The site (and payouts) have been down for a couple of hours now  Shocked

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May 06, 2012, 04:30:59 PM
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Processing is coming back up now.  It will take a little bet to catch up but it is running through the transactions now.


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May 06, 2012, 05:14:01 PM
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I like it  Grin

Ive saved the addresses to my bitcoin spinner address book on my s2 and now I can do some lazy gambling in my spare time on the phone Smiley
Great work.

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May 06, 2012, 05:27:42 PM
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Is it blocked again? Cheesy

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May 06, 2012, 05:37:31 PM
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Is it blocked again? Cheesy

I seem to be waiting on my bets to show up, but they have been confirmed - possibly down ?

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May 06, 2012, 06:19:54 PM
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Is it blocked again? Cheesy

I seem to be waiting on my bets to show up, but they have been confirmed - possibly down ?

beep beep beep, here they come Cheesy

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May 06, 2012, 10:08:15 PM
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wow you did, are you sure? that's really unlucky, I just ran a simulation, out of 10M rounds, it happened once....

Whew!

Glad to hear, I've been waiting quite a while now to find out if I won my last wager or not! Hoping I get my other wins back soon too...

Lost (11) 48000 bets in a row and finally won 2 at like 20BTC or so! ...been so long now I can't remember LOL


How much longer are you thinking? The site (and payouts) have been down for a couple of hours now  Shocked

Sorry, I think I did win 1 small bet in between somewhere - I did lose like 11 out of 12 bets at 48000 though, then finally won a few after all that. Almost couldn't believe it and almost everytime it was just barely over 48000 Sad

Can't really complain though - it was the exact opposite yesterday, I couldn't lose! Just trying to get back to where I was and chasing my bets (damn Martingale... LOL)


Just curious, the past few days I have gotten (and seen) my bets within seconds, maybe a min or two tops - since last night it is taking more like 30-60 min between bets now. My last bet was sent 54 minutes ago and has 6 confirmations already...

Is this just because the site is so busy? Or will this speed up again in the future? It's agonizing waiting in the mean time (especially with larger 10-20BTC bets)!!


Anyways, I love the site! I'm hooked! Just wish it were a bit faster is all Wink
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May 06, 2012, 11:14:04 PM
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Yep, it's seems really slow now Tongue

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May 07, 2012, 03:28:27 AM
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the past few days I have gotten (and seen) my bets within seconds, maybe a min or two tops - since last night it is taking more like 30-60 min between bets now. My last bet was sent 54 minutes ago and has 6 confirmations already...

Is this just because the site is so busy? Or will this speed up again in the future? It's agonizing waiting in the mean time (especially with larger 10-20BTC bets)!!


Anyways, I love the site! I'm hooked! Just wish it were a bit faster is all Wink

Yep, it's seems really slow now Tongue

Seems fairly slow here as well, had the same slowdown last night before it picked up.

Perhaps the site uses send many to cut down on transaction spam ?

I really like the site, it generates shit loads of transactions for the btc network and I assume/hope all the players are paying transaction fee's.

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May 07, 2012, 03:45:23 AM
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Maybe they should use ZipConf.com to speed up their remissions.

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