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I don't hate them, but I don't see the point. I understand that SOME are attracted by these, but those type of miners aren't the ones planning to stick around because of the "cool design". If you've read the posts and I'm sure you have, a lot of miners are looking for the frequent payouts and that is something you can't control even with more hash, unless you had a significant amount of hash power, you may be able to sway some more chances (still luck). I also understand this is what you're hoping to accomplish with a different design, but I'm used to the Kano site and I have no problems with it. I do think it wouldn't be such a bad idea to have something like this to work in conjunction with Kano such as minergain, ckpool status, etc. I just personally don't feel like it would make the slightest difference in keeping people in the pool. Not to mention the smaller payouts if we were to say double the hash rate. I'll admit I'm cynical about the idea, but I feel it's for good reason. Just my opinion, nice graphics though. EDIT: I would like to clarify that I am for more hash power, but I also understand that it is not a direct correlation to increases our block count. I don't want to "hate" on these ideas and discourage anyone. I'm just waiting for an approach that makes the most sense and I believe Kano would know best on how to achieve that. On that note, If Kano has any suggestions that may help, it would be great to share.
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Alright everyone... If you've got hate in your heart...let it out. I am by no means a graphic designer but we've all been saying we need to do SOMETHING to spread the word. I've come up with a few graphics and as of now I'm just wanting input or if you can do it better then by all means, please do it better. I just wanted to do something because my measly hashrate is not doing anything apparently I haven't discovered a single block. So please give me your thoughts and let's think of ways to spread the word. If someone can let me know the specific sizes these images need to be I don't mind creating banners, signatures, whatever you need to spread the Kano word. Without further ado...I will be adding images one by one and editing the post to see which ones actually post and which you have to follow the link for. This is a great start! I've been promoting for a couple of weeks, and everything helps. Great work!
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February 20, 2018, 09:17:28 PM |
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I don't hate them, but I don't see the point. I understand that SOME are attracted by these, but those type of miners aren't the ones planning to stick around because of the "cool design". If you've read the posts and I'm sure you have, a lot of miners are looking for the frequent payouts and that is something you can't control even with more hash, unless you had a significant amount of hash power, you may be able to sway some more chances (still luck). I also understand this is what you're hoping to accomplish with a different design, but I'm used to the Kano site and I have no problems with it. I do think it wouldn't be such a bad idea to have something like this to work in conjunction with Kano such as minergain, ckpool status, etc. I just personally don't feel like it would make the slightest difference in keeping people in the pool. Not to mention the smaller payouts if we were to say double the hash rate. I'll admit I'm cynical about the idea, but I feel it's for good reason. Just my opinion, nice graphics though. My idea would be to target the millions of workers on Antpool that just aren't taking the time to realize there are other options. So many people I'm sure, just leave their rigs on Antpool because it's bitmain. Bitmain pushes the pool on their site, so I don't see why we couldn't take out some ad space somewhere. I'll chip in on the first run at Minergain if he's open to posting it. But imagine if a graphic were posted on some of these difficulty sites where people track it, or on the bitcoin news sites, any exposure is better than none IF and only if your goal is to bring more people in. Get people talking. Minergain let me know what some ad space would run on your page and we'll work something out. Again, I know this isn't the fix for what some would argue isn't even broken. I'm happy here at Kano or else I wouldn't be here like many of you. I enjoy the community, even though we argue, we don't see eye to eye, and everyone has their own opinion. But what I can suggest is, if I'm helping a newb anywhere on Bitcointalk in some other random thread and have a signature banner etc. pointing them to Kano, where I mine, they may just ask about it. They might finally google PPLNS and realize there are other options. Who knows, but it's worth a shot. I'm simply trying to bring ideas to life. Someone here said we needed graphics. I also have no qualms with the site, which is why two of the graphics have a strikingly similar color style to them from the kano site. *tip of the hat* It won't look weird if they saw the graphic color scheme first, it would all tie together.
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perfectplus174
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February 20, 2018, 09:22:18 PM |
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So for example, this is off the top of my head, but if some of the larger players (or anyone for that matter) was willing to VOLUNTARILY pay a VERY SLIGHTLY extra fee percentage (say roughly .01% or whatever) to be redistributed (god, I hate the way that sounds) to the smaller miners --OR-- an even smaller percentage that could go to a random lucky miner under and over a certain terahash or time frame commitment , it may be interesting enough for others to stick around to hit that second lottery. This would be a completely voluntary program to those who wished to donate back to the pool community. I for one would be on board. Just an idea......though I don't have any cool graphics to back it up.
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February 20, 2018, 09:23:21 PM |
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Alright everyone... If you've got hate in your heart...let it out. I am by no means a graphic designer but we've all been saying we need to do SOMETHING to spread the word. I've come up with a few graphics and as of now I'm just wanting input or if you can do it better then by all means, please do it better. I just wanted to do something because my measly hashrate is not doing anything apparently I haven't discovered a single block. So please give me your thoughts and let's think of ways to spread the word. If someone can let me know the specific sizes these images need to be I don't mind creating banners, signatures, whatever you need to spread the Kano word. Without further ado...I will be adding images one by one and editing the post to see which ones actually post and which you have to follow the link for. First one is hard to read IMO, rest are fine.
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February 20, 2018, 09:28:38 PM |
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Alright everyone... If you've got hate in your heart...let it out. I am by no means a graphic designer but we've all been saying we need to do SOMETHING to spread the word. I've come up with a few graphics and as of now I'm just wanting input or if you can do it better then by all means, please do it better. I just wanted to do something because my measly hashrate is not doing anything apparently I haven't discovered a single block. So please give me your thoughts and let's think of ways to spread the word. If someone can let me know the specific sizes these images need to be I don't mind creating banners, signatures, whatever you need to spread the Kano word. Without further ado...I will be adding images one by one and editing the post to see which ones actually post and which you have to follow the link for. First one is hard to read IMO, rest are fine. I will say for not being a graphic designer, these are actually pretty damn good and better than I could come up with, as far as that goes.
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Shazam!!!
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February 20, 2018, 09:36:10 PM |
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My idea would be to target the millions of workers on Antpool that just aren't taking the time to realize there are other options. So many people I'm sure, just leave their rigs on Antpool because it's bitmain. Bitmain pushes the pool on their site, so I don't see why we couldn't take out some ad space somewhere. I'll chip in on the first run at Minergain if he's open to posting it. But imagine if a graphic were posted on some of these difficulty sites where people track it, or on the bitcoin news sites, any exposure is better than none IF and only if your goal is to bring more people in. Get people talking.
Minergain let me know what some ad space would run on your page and we'll work something out. Again, I know this isn't the fix for what some would argue isn't even broken. I'm happy here at Kano or else I wouldn't be here like many of you. I enjoy the community, even though we argue, we don't see eye to eye, and everyone has their own opinion. But what I can suggest is, if I'm helping a newb anywhere on Bitcointalk in some other random thread and have a signature banner etc. pointing them to Kano, where I mine, they may just ask about it. They might finally google PPLNS and realize there are other options. Who knows, but it's worth a shot. I'm simply trying to bring ideas to life. Someone here said we needed graphics.
I also have no qualms with the site, which is why two of the graphics have a strikingly similar color style to them from the kano site. *tip of the hat* It won't look weird if they saw the graphic color scheme first, it would all tie together.
And this is EXACTLY what it's about! Taking back from the corporate monsters, who subliminally slip their pool into everything. When I made my signature back in December, that's what I was promoting for: Help the smaller pools, and the community they represent. If, and when, you hear back from Minergain, please let me know. I too, would like to contribute towards marketing Kano's pool. For now, I'm going to post the sh*t out of your banners on the groups I'm in on social media.
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February 20, 2018, 09:46:54 PM |
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So ... in an attempt to get some large miners on board I'll post this here now and then work out how to get the attention of said larger miners ... 10 BTC giveaway to LARGE minersAnyone with NON-RENTAL hash rate - i.e. their own miners, who shows on the rewards page a "Your N Avg" of exactly 9.5PH/s or more - yes a large miner - for any block that they find, will get a bonus 1 BTC block finder reward for up to a maximum of 3 blocks per miner. Total BTC I'll be giving out will be 10 BTC i.e. a total of ten 1 BTC block finder rewards. The bonus 1 BTC block finder reward will not be taken from the block reward to miners - i.e. no miners will be getting paid less due to the block finder reward. So how can a large miner get this 1, 2 or 3 BTC bonus reward?They have to ramp up to over 9.5PHs then find a block. Are there any quick ways to ramp up to 9.5PHs?Yep - if you have 20PHs then you'll ramp up to 9.5PHs in less than 2.5Nd i.e. twice as fast. Of course if you have more than that, the ramp to 9.5PHs will be faster again. Does this affect the ramp time?Yes, adding more hash rate to the pool reduces the time of the 5Nd ramp. e.g. at the moment assuming we were 50PH/s then adding another 10PH/s to the pool would reduce the ramp time by 20% If you know anyone on any bitmain pools or slush (which is probably now a bitmain pool also) with over 10PH then tell them about it ... and cryptostarusa can't get it
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February 20, 2018, 09:49:32 PM |
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So ... in an attempt to get some large miners on board I'll post this here now and then work out how to get the attention of said larger miners ... 10 BTC giveaway to LARGE minersAnyone with NON-RENTAL hash rate - i.e. their own miners, who shows on the rewards page a "Your N Avg" of exactly 9.5PH/s or more - yes a large miner - for any block that they find, will get a bonus 1 BTC block finder reward for up to a maximum of 3 blocks per miner. Total BTC I'll be giving out will be 10 BTC i.e. a total of ten 1 BTC block finder rewards. The bonus 1 BTC block finder reward will not be taken from the block reward to miners - i.e. no miners will be getting paid less due to the block finder reward. So how can a large miner get this 1, 2 or 3 BTC bonus reward?They have to ramp up to over 9.5PHs then find a block. Are there any quick ways to ramp up to 9.5PHs?Yep - if you have 20PHs then you'll ramp up to 9.5PHs in less than 2.5Nd i.e. twice as fast. Of course if you have more than that, the ramp to 9.5PHs will be faster again. Does this affect the ramp time?Yes, adding more hash rate to the pool reduces the time of the 5Nd ramp. e.g. at the moment assuming we were 50PH/s then adding another 10PH/s to the pool would reduce the ramp time by 20% If you know anyone on any bitmain pools or slush (which is probably now a bitmain pool also) with over 10PH then tell them about it ... and cryptostarusa can't get it Poor cryptostarusa will be sad
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February 20, 2018, 09:55:13 PM |
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So ... in an attempt to get some large miners on board I'll post this here now and then work out how to get the attention of said larger miners ... 10 BTC giveaway to LARGE minersAnyone with NON-RENTAL hash rate - i.e. their own miners, who shows on the rewards page a "Your N Avg" of exactly 9.5PH/s or more - yes a large miner - for any block that they find, will get a bonus 1 BTC block finder reward for up to a maximum of 3 blocks per miner. Total BTC I'll be giving out will be 10 BTC i.e. a total of ten 1 BTC block finder rewards. The bonus 1 BTC block finder reward will not be taken from the block reward to miners - i.e. no miners will be getting paid less due to the block finder reward. So how can a large miner get this 1, 2 or 3 BTC bonus reward?They have to ramp up to over 9.5PHs then find a block. Are there any quick ways to ramp up to 9.5PHs?Yep - if you have 20PHs then you'll ramp up to 9.5PHs in less than 2.5Nd i.e. twice as fast. Of course if you have more than that, the ramp to 9.5PHs will be faster again. Does this affect the ramp time?Yes, adding more hash rate to the pool reduces the time of the 5Nd ramp. e.g. at the moment assuming we were 50PH/s then adding another 10PH/s to the pool would reduce the ramp time by 20% If you know anyone on any bitmain pools or slush (which is probably now a bitmain pool also) with over 10PH then tell them about it ... and cryptostarusa can't get it Wow! Thank you Kano. Hopefully we can pick up another 75-100PH. This is an outstanding offer in my opinion.
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February 20, 2018, 10:02:50 PM |
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It's in the first post also.
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February 20, 2018, 10:15:23 PM |
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Good job, some are quite interesting. That said, It should be https://kano.is (not http)
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February 20, 2018, 10:26:24 PM |
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Thank you Kano! This is why I want to support your pool, your support is unrivaled! Hopefully, some more members will participate in some simple promoting, it's literally the least we could do for a great service YOU provide!
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February 20, 2018, 10:34:46 PM |
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So ... in an attempt to get some large miners on board I'll post this here now and then work out how to get the attention of said larger miners ... 10 BTC giveaway to LARGE minersAnyone with NON-RENTAL hash rate - i.e. their own miners, who shows on the rewards page a "Your N Avg" of exactly 9.5PH/s or more - yes a large miner - for any block that they find, will get a bonus 1 BTC block finder reward for up to a maximum of 3 blocks per miner. Total BTC I'll be giving out will be 10 BTC i.e. a total of ten 1 BTC block finder rewards. The bonus 1 BTC block finder reward will not be taken from the block reward to miners - i.e. no miners will be getting paid less due to the block finder reward. So how can a large miner get this 1, 2 or 3 BTC bonus reward?They have to ramp up to over 9.5PHs then find a block. Are there any quick ways to ramp up to 9.5PHs?Yep - if you have 20PHs then you'll ramp up to 9.5PHs in less than 2.5Nd i.e. twice as fast. Of course if you have more than that, the ramp to 9.5PHs will be faster again. Does this affect the ramp time?Yes, adding more hash rate to the pool reduces the time of the 5Nd ramp. e.g. at the moment assuming we were 50PH/s then adding another 10PH/s to the pool would reduce the ramp time by 20% If you know anyone on any bitmain pools or slush (which is probably now a bitmain pool also) with over 10PH then tell them about it ... and cryptostarusa can't get it Dang, that is a serious promotion!
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February 20, 2018, 10:51:41 PM |
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Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...
Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.
I guess not everyone agrees with you...
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February 20, 2018, 10:55:31 PM |
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I like this, I like this a lot!
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February 20, 2018, 10:59:55 PM |
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I guess that's one way to bring in the big dogs. Damn!!!
I still wouldn't mind paying a small amount more like raising the fee to .095 % to pay anyone who finds a block an extra reward. It could still be optional for whoever wanted to participate. Still just throwing simple ideas out there. I'm sure that could be coded in somehow? lol not my strong suit.
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February 20, 2018, 11:03:27 PM |
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Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool...
Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself.
I guess not everyone agrees with you... No I agree with Biffa. It's about getting the hash rate up a lot. While adding losta small miners means more hash rate, we don't want to fall behind the Diff rate rising, we want to get ahead of it a lot. The only way I can see that happening is getting a number of large miners on board - but that wont be a lot of miners. This will only attract a small number of miners, but make a big difference to the pool if we do get some. Biffa's idea works also, but I don't think everyone is trying to keep up with the Diff changes, so we need to keep ahead of them somehow.
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