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Hello, i'm new to mining and looking that kano.is is the best pool around the other pool based on the review. I'm still in the learning phase and finally got myself one S5 Antminer. I already mined for about 1 day, and already make wallet, and already change the wallet for payout to my wallet, the rewards for me already showed up, but my bitcoin balance still not have any change. Is that because of the block is not 'mature' yet? and can somebody explain what is the 'mature' block means? or am i missed when the 5nd phase already over? i start around 11:AM yesterday, and now my clock showed 5:43 PM. Thank you for your time  go to this spot on the kano.is web site show us what you have ... there you go ... My notes sais the last block payout is 422688. You should get a payout with the next block we find. See last paragraph of https://www.kano.is/index.php?k=payout. 5nd is the "N Range" on your screenshot. You get rewarded for the speed you average (or your shares relative to pool total shares) over that time. Keep your miner mining over that entire time and your "Your N Avg" will stabilize and reward per block found will be more consistent. |
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July 30, 2016, 05:59:36 PM |
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After sleeping more than 13 hours, I wake to find we are still block-less for the mining day.  Our block stats are looking pretty sad. After this next block is finally found, they will look even sadder.  To top that off, the center board of one of my miners appears to have died. I've rebooted a few times without success. Not feeling well enough to go into the hot miner room to mess with it right now. Grrrr. Need a mini block spree to make this day less unprofitable. Maybe I should just go back to sleep and manifest blocks in my dreams...  |
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July 30, 2016, 06:05:38 PM |
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If I were some wild conspiracy nut, I might think that as more S9's are pointed at our pool, that our luck has gone sour.
It certainly seems to have. Last extended period of bad luck it was rentals, this time it's S9's. Maybe we are just having some bad luck? During the rental conspiracy I jumped ship. As luck would have it we started hitting blocks and I missed out on a good profit. Won't happen again with me. Luck is luck and it changes, it can't be good all the time. |
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July 30, 2016, 06:18:29 PM |
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If I were some wild conspiracy nut, I might think that as more S9's are pointed at our pool, that our luck has gone sour.
It certainly seems to have. Last extended period of bad luck it was rentals, this time it's S9's. Maybe we are just having some bad luck? During the rental conspiracy I jumped ship. As luck would have it we started hitting blocks and I missed out on a good profit. Won't happen again with me. Luck is luck and it changes, it can't be good all the time. Yup, you are totally right.. Glad you agree that it's the rentals and the S9's.. Smart man we've got over there..  |
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July 30, 2016, 06:24:30 PM |
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LOL. Seriously. What is the recent influx of MORONS renting HUGE amounts on NH/WH but and at ridiculously high prices.. |
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July 30, 2016, 06:25:48 PM |
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If I were some wild conspiracy nut, I might think that as more S9's are pointed at our pool, that our luck has gone sour.
It certainly seems to have. Last extended period of bad luck it was rentals, this time it's S9's. Maybe we are just having some bad luck? During the rental conspiracy I jumped ship. As luck would have it we started hitting blocks and I missed out on a good profit. Won't happen again with me. Luck is luck and it changes, it can't be good all the time. Well, I did say I wasn't a conspiracy nut.  Just waiting on the luck to change.... |
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July 30, 2016, 06:31:34 PM |
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Yay, block!
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July 30, 2016, 06:33:05 PM |
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Block! And a nice Fat one!
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July 30, 2016, 06:34:07 PM |
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Yay, block!
Finally. So I guess the large rentals went poof and here goes a block..  |
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July 30, 2016, 06:48:31 PM |
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Yup. Correlation, but not causation. I used to teach Research Methods in grad school.  Onward and upward, Junior Birdmen!...uh, mine on!... |
To infinity and beyond...on two 741s and one of only 3...nope, make that 4...full nodes in Hawaii...on <30A. (I have other gear on the Hoth ice planet)
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July 30, 2016, 06:50:53 PM
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Well, 25 days of lower luck. I haven't seen this here before (recently), but I am sure that it is within what is stat possible.
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July 30, 2016, 07:24:45 PM |
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I'm off in search of Avalon 6's. Two A6s gives about 7THs on 2010W. I can manage two of them here on my power, by retiring the six S3s (will give me a net increase of about 4.5THs). Get a bit ahead (again), and get some more A6s to send to Labrador (providing a new Avalon hasn't come out by then); they charge by the KWH, so an A6 can still make money there. I'm thinking this choice will (1) alleviate my sense of guilt in supporting BiteMe, (2) keep me from wearing out my French press waiting for the pricing/avail on S9s, and (3) give me a bit of breathing room whilst waiting for LYT to (hopefully) come out with some good news. Mining on...  |
To infinity and beyond...on two 741s and one of only 3...nope, make that 4...full nodes in Hawaii...on <30A. (I have other gear on the Hoth ice planet)
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July 30, 2016, 08:16:51 PM |
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I apologize for my pissy mood in some of my last posts over the past few days. I've been ill since Thursday. My friends cat has brought fleas into my house and I'm battling an infestation. And then I've got a dead board in one of my miners. Couple all that with our lack of blocks and I haven't been in the best of moods. I'll do better. I promise! Let's get some BLOCKS!!!! Some green ones would be a nice start on recovery! |
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July 30, 2016, 08:51:34 PM |
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Hello, i'm new to mining and looking that kano.is is the best pool around the other pool based on the review. I'm still in the learning phase and finally got myself one S5 Antminer. I already mined for about 1 day, and already make wallet, and already change the wallet for payout to my wallet, the rewards for me already showed up, but my bitcoin balance still not have any change. Is that because of the block is not 'mature' yet? and can somebody explain what is the 'mature' block means? or am i missed when the 5nd phase already over? i start around 11:AM yesterday, and now my clock showed 5:43 PM. Thank you for your time What is your native language? If it is what I think I could direct you to my explanation of the payout system in simple words. If not, try searching this topic, it has been explained in English several times here. |
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July 30, 2016, 09:30:03 PM |
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Will an S9 be able to pay for itself under its lifetime ?
I might be stupid, but when I count on it I come to the conclusion that an S9 is so expensive and produces to little so it wont be able to pay for itself for a very long time.
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July 30, 2016, 09:41:43 PM |
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Will an S9 be able to pay for itself under its lifetime ?
I might be stupid, but when I count on it I come to the conclusion that an S9 is so expensive and produces to little so it wont be able to pay for itself for a very long time.
Definitely. IF it ever does. And about "Correlation, but not causation", this is invalid as an action or occurrence can cause or be caused by another. So for anyone to drone out someone's idea of a relation between (for example) MUCH lower and longer block times vs 2 years of averages is like putting a towel over your head so the monstter can not see you...  Just like, if you step out of your house, you MIGHT get hit by a bus.. Or be pooped on by a bird. |
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July 30, 2016, 10:10:26 PM |
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Will an S9 be able to pay for itself under its lifetime ?
I might be stupid, but when I count on it I come to the conclusion that an S9 is so expensive and produces to little so it wont be able to pay for itself for a very long time.
At current prices, not considering electric cost it's almost 1000 blocks to pay itself off. If you look at our block history that should only take about 64 weeks. So barring a nice btc price increase it doesn't look very promising. |
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July 30, 2016, 10:23:49 PM |
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Hope y'all are being facetious...'cuz I was...  Anyway...I've got enough data now to figure how things are going to look, at least for me. I've got three S7s in Labrador that are running at a 50% overhead, including power and psu's, based on the pool's production since the halving. Those particular units were ROI already, so that's a moot question in this instance. An S9 would run at the same absolute overhead as an S7, but produces around 12THs, v. 4THs. The math isn't complicated. It will make money on a monthly basis, as do the S7s. The problem, of course, is in the ROI. Until Bitmain gets the cost down on the S9, I'm looking at running A6s instead. If I ran an S9 at the datacentre, it would take (given spot staying stable) around ten months for ROI. |
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July 30, 2016, 10:37:42 PM |
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Will an S9 be able to pay for itself under its lifetime ?
I might be stupid, but when I count on it I come to the conclusion that an S9 is so expensive and produces to little so it wont be able to pay for itself for a very long time.
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July 30, 2016, 10:38:50 PM |
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Hope y'all are being facetious...'cuz I was... Anyway...I've got enough data now to figure how things are going to look, at least for me. I've got three S7s in Labrador that are running at a 50% overhead, including power and psu's, based on the pool's production since the halving. Those particular units were ROI already, so that's a moot question in this instance. An S9 would run at the same absolute overhead as an S7, but produces around 12THs, v. 4THs. The math isn't complicated. It will make money on a monthly basis, as do the S7s. The problem, of course, is in the ROI. Until Bitmain gets the cost down on the S9, I'm looking at running A6s instead. If I ran an S9 at the datacentre, it would take (given spot staying stable) around ten months for ROI. Am I missing something in my math? S9s run ~$2000. 13T/s gets you ~.003/block. That's ~1000 blocks for roi. Where do you get your 10 months from? |
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