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[Biodom]

so, maybe it is A7 that is messing things now with extra stales/invalids...or, it doesn't matter?

[-ck]

A7 owners...have you noticed that the A7s seem to be an order of magnitude higher on Stales than other hardware?  It's below the pool average for Invalids but it's something I've noticed.  I see the same thing with Kano's Worker Chart on his A7.

I've committed a fix for that on git. Canaan will include my fix in their next firmware 
It's harmless for the time being, just ignore the stales anyway.

[clgrissom3]

A7 owners...have you noticed that the A7s seem to be an order of magnitude higher on Stales than other hardware?  It's below the pool average for Invalids but it's something I've noticed.  I see the same thing with Kano's Worker Chart on his A7.

I've committed a fix for that on git. Canaan will include my fix in their next firmware 
It's harmless for the time being, just ignore the stales anyway.

Good to know that you guys are on top of things as usual!   I was not too worried about it as it is below the pool average for invalids...just one of those things I noticed while poking around (me being bored during some of these long blocks)

[kano]

so, maybe it is A7 that is messing things now with extra stales/invalids...or, it doesn't matter?

All blocks, stale or otherwise, show up in ckdb on the web page.

I purposely don't stop anything from being seen on the web page, but instead adjust the message/state if something went wrong and it's not a standard orphan, since ckdb will automatically flag a block that 'falls' out of the blockchain as an orphan.

There have been no stale blocks since: 421429 2016‑07‑19 15:37:45

[kano]

A7 owners...have you noticed that the A7s seem to be an order of magnitude higher on Stales than other hardware?  It's below the pool average for Invalids but it's something I've noticed.  I see the same thing with Kano's Worker Chart on his A7.

I've committed a fix for that on git. Canaan will include my fix in their next firmware  
It's harmless for the time being, just ignore the stales anyway.

Good to know that you guys are on top of things as usual!  I was not too worried about it as it is below the pool average for invalids...just one of those things I noticed while poking around (me being bored during some of these long blocks)

While invalids mean 'unrewarded' shares, they aren't counted in the ckdb hash rate stats, so if you are getting 6TH/s then that's what's been accepted and rewarded.

If they are 'hi' then they effectively have no 'expected' effect at all on your reward.
If they are 'dup' that just means the miner sent the same share more than once - which seems to be not uncommon with recent miners - my (and -ck's) changes in drivers to avoid that seem to be ignored by some others who write drivers

If they are 'stale' then that means they got to the pool too slow (after a block change) but that can be the result of things like: miner<->pool network, miner internal work management - reducing that will of course increase the reward

[Biodom]

so, maybe it is A7 that is messing things now with extra stales/invalids...or, it doesn't matter?

All blocks, stale or otherwise, show up in ckdb on the web page.

I purposely don't stop anything from being seen on the web page, but instead adjust the message/state if something went wrong and it's not a standard orphan, since ckdb will automatically flag a block that 'falls' out of the blockchain as an orphan.

There have been no stale blocks since: 421429 2016‑07‑19 15:37:45

I was not posting about stale blocks, rather commenting on others observations re stale/invalid shares.
In any case, you made everything clear in the followup post, thanks.

[solteykr]

Good day. newbie here. I've been mining in antpool for quite some time now. I have a 26TH mining rig that mines me 0.023btc a day these days. quick question. if i mine here "ckpool", how much can i mine a day? the same? i got antminer s7 and s9's. thanks.

The rewards you would get would vary, since Kano CK pays PPLNS which pays for blocks, unlike AntPool which pays per share. On average though, you should expect to earn more as the fees are lower and transaction fees are paid out as well. Because Kano is a smaller pool though, you'd be subject to more variance and lower rewards on some days, and higher on others.

Ok. will try kano. Thanks!

[solteykr]

Also keep in mind that because of the PPLNS method the first several payouts will be much lower than what you are expecting. Keep them pointed here and wait at least a week and see where you are at that point.

Thanks for the info.

[5h4do3]

shjo gotta be one of the nastiest 2 weeks on kano

[Biffa]

Thinkin we all need to eat summa this!:

[rwubbels]

shjo gotta be one of the nastiest 2 weeks on kano

Yeah... in theory everything balances out...
Just 3,5+ blocks per day from now on and we are back on 100%...  

Go BTClocks! 

[HerbPean]

Hashrate just exploded on the network

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

That's not funny !

[ZACHM]

Yeah, not cool.
They could have been more considerate and waited a couple days so they don't affect the diff change.

edit: Did it all get pointed to F2Pool? They have found 5 of the last 6 blocks.

[xxcsu]

Hashrate just exploded on the network

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

That's not funny !

Looks like Bitmain stopped selling they Antminer S9's for public in the past few weeks is not even was listed on they site , few days ago its there again , but sold out of course .

There is some rumors all over on the internet about Bitmain's new gigantic mining farm ,  it could potentially supply ~50% of the total bitcoin mining power . That exploded crazy hash rate jump can be a sign ... the part of the new farm is alive and under first phase testing .

https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/793675026402717698

use google translate : http://www.cybtc.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=16490

[tournamentdan]

Hashrate just exploded on the network

https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty

That's not funny !

Looks like Bitmain stopped selling they Antminer S9's for public in the past few weeks is not even was listed on they site , few days ago its there again , but sold out of course .

There is some rumors all over on the internet about Bitmain's new gigantic mining farm ,  it could potentially supply ~50% of the total bitcoin mining power . That exploded crazy hash rate jump can be a sign ... the part of the new farm is alive and under first phase testing .

https://twitter.com/cnLedger/status/793675026402717698

use google translate : http://www.cybtc.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=16490

No I just bought a few last week. And they still have a limit of 10 for each order.

[tournamentdan]

In last last couple weeks there has been a R4, S9, A7 batch released. If your not increasing your hash rate. You are going backwards.

[rwubbels]

edit: Did it all get pointed to F2Pool? They have found 5 of the last 6 blocks.

Actually no... they went to Antpool... 2 weeks ago i checked Antpoo and F2poo to calculate their luck, since then Antpool has risen 40Ph and F2 20Ph... thats twice the size of this pool...
However... according to: http://www.coinwarz.com/network-hashrate-charts/bitcoin-network-hashrate-chart the hasrate has been this high at 3 dec. aswell
So... wondering out lout wither the luck of this pool is affected by this?

[-ck]

edit: Did it all get pointed to F2Pool? They have found 5 of the last 6 blocks.

However... according to: http://www.coinwarz.com/network-hashrate-charts/bitcoin-network-hashrate-chart the hasrate has been this high at 3 dec. aswell
So... wondering out lout wither the luck of this pool is affected by this?

Every pool's luck is completely independent of every other pool's hashing. Indeed every single miner's luck is independent of every other miner, though a pool is the collective luck of all the miners on it.

Of course that doesn't change the fact that luck has been shitful of late, but that doesn't mean it will remain that way.

[HerbPean]

In last last couple weeks there has been a R4, S9, A7 batch released. If your not increasing your hash rate. You are going backwards.

That's a funny one.

You mean buying WAYYYYYYYY overprice gear => A7

Or just a 90 days warranty S9 with like 10% failure ?

No thanks

[xxcsu]

In last last couple weeks there has been a R4, S9, A7 batch released. If your not increasing your hash rate. You are going backwards.

I did not increased my hashrate in the past 6 months , and i can tell you im not going backwards at all I have few   S9 from the first batch , some of those mining here on Kano, some on another pools .
Doesn't matter how much you invest into the mining , your generated income will be less weeks by weeks , months by months as difficulty is going up.

If you buying a S9 /11TH/s miner right now , your ROI if you have free electricity will be around 6-7 months with current difficulty and BTC price. If you are paying around 10 cents(us)/kw your ROI will be around a year , with current difficulty and BTC price .