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February 20, 2018, 04:48:06 AM
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The plan is to put it all on 240 volt, to balance out the load across L1 and L2  I just haven't had time to finish it all.
I am tempted to move it back to where it came from to see if the one power supply works.  Interestignly enough, the plug I plugged it into has nothing else on it, and it is a plug right at the panel box, so it is significantly closer than the one in the garage.



Chances are it’s not your power as much as it’s the apw3++ psu. People have had problems with them running on 220v let alone 110v. The efficiency has a +/- range and I think it’s mostly minus. I would use 2 Hp server psu’s if I needed to run on 110v.

Funny I took it back into the garage, and put it back where it was, and still one board didn't work, i moved the control cables so that the original chain 5 from controller was the far right ( chain 7 hash board) Chain 6 was to the far left ( Original chain 5), and Chain 7 was the middle board.

Booted up with one PSU and worked.


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February 20, 2018, 07:02:44 AM
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I’m fully ramp up with my S9 now, and my percentage is about 0.03%, and I usually get awarded at 0.0035xxx per block found at Kano.
At normal pool, I get 0.00125 (after fee) minimum per day, so as a month (30 days) I get 0.00125x30=0.0375/month.
So if we found less than 10 blocks/month (depends on luck), I can’t get as much as normal pool.
Do I get it right here?

yup - thats more or less accurate from my understanding.  i was asking similar questions last month when i started mining on Kano, migrating my 4xS9 to this pool.

Its been a tough end of Jan & beginning of Feb ... but i'm hopeful for the future.

btw, theres no such thing as a "normal" pool ... just different hashing/share calc & payout methods.
I have 1 S9 at Kano from 14 Jan,  but with bad luck and depend on the pool hashrate, the income is not as much as I thought. I have monthly bills to pay, what should I do?

Unfortunately no one can really answer that but you. Because of the nature of this pool blocks will come less frequently but the payout will be greater. If you have bills to pay and need a fixed amount of bitcoin coming in then another pool might be the best but in the long run you will probably make less. Patience is definitely needed here but I can understand your dilemma.

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I am pretty sure the 0.9% fee over time will not make up for the lost income over the past month even if your here for 5 years+. With the horrible luck and the difficulty changes even if the pool fee was 0% you wouldnt make enough BTC to cover the losses. Anyone who started mining here mid january got fucked. I know this cause thats exactly what i did. Ive since moved all my miners back to slush. From jan 15 to feb 15 i made less than %10 what i mined the month before. The pool seems legit and has alot of support, I want it to succeed, but its too risky for me to run my rigs here with the high variance of payments. I cant afford to pay my power bill now.
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February 20, 2018, 07:51:47 AM
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There was a failover for miners on the JP node at 07:41 UTC
It was immediate, so any miners there would have failed back within 5 minutes.

If you had JP as your pool1 in your miner, and another kano.is node as pool2, then you shouldn't have noticed any drop in hash rate.
Your miners will have just switched to pool2 and continued on mining, then switched back to pool1 after 5 minutes.

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February 20, 2018, 08:01:32 AM
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I’m fully ramp up with my S9 now, and my percentage is about 0.03%, and I usually get awarded at 0.0035xxx per block found at Kano.
At normal pool, I get 0.00125 (after fee) minimum per day, so as a month (30 days) I get 0.00125x30=0.0375/month.
So if we found less than 10 blocks/month (depends on luck), I can’t get as much as normal pool.
Do I get it right here?

yup - thats more or less accurate from my understanding.  i was asking similar questions last month when i started mining on Kano, migrating my 4xS9 to this pool.

Its been a tough end of Jan & beginning of Feb ... but i'm hopeful for the future.

btw, theres no such thing as a "normal" pool ... just different hashing/share calc & payout methods.
I have 1 S9 at Kano from 14 Jan,  but with bad luck and depend on the pool hashrate, the income is not as much as I thought. I have monthly bills to pay, what should I do?

You should move to other pool like slushpool, Antpool, btc.com,viabtc
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February 20, 2018, 09:03:51 AM
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I’m fully ramp up with my S9 now, and my percentage is about 0.03%, and I usually get awarded at 0.0035xxx per block found at Kano.
At normal pool, I get 0.00125 (after fee) minimum per day, so as a month (30 days) I get 0.00125x30=0.0375/month.
So if we found less than 10 blocks/month (depends on luck), I can’t get as much as normal pool.
Do I get it right here?

yup - thats more or less accurate from my understanding.  i was asking similar questions last month when i started mining on Kano, migrating my 4xS9 to this pool.

Its been a tough end of Jan & beginning of Feb ... but i'm hopeful for the future.

btw, theres no such thing as a "normal" pool ... just different hashing/share calc & payout methods.
I have 1 S9 at Kano from 14 Jan,  but with bad luck and depend on the pool hashrate, the income is not as much as I thought. I have monthly bills to pay, what should I do?

Unfortunately no one can really answer that but you. Because of the nature of this pool blocks will come less frequently but the payout will be greater. If you have bills to pay and need a fixed amount of bitcoin coming in then another pool might be the best but in the long run you will probably make less. Patience is definitely needed here but I can understand your dilemma.

In the meantime MINE ON!!!! and BTClock Dance!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcWPiHjIExA


I am pretty sure the 0.9% fee over time will not make up for the lost income over the past month even if your here for 5 years+. With the horrible luck and the difficulty changes even if the pool fee was 0% you wouldnt make enough BTC to cover the losses. Anyone who started mining here mid january got fucked. I know this cause thats exactly what i did. Ive since moved all my miners back to slush. From jan 15 to feb 15 i made less than %10 what i mined the month before. The pool seems legit and has alot of support, I want it to succeed, but its too risky for me to run my rigs here with the high variance of payments. I cant afford to pay my power bill now.

this is only valid if you believe that this pool will continue to find 1-2 blocks per month going into the future.
Based on statistics & the history of the pool .... that is likely not the case.

If the pool can crack more than 8 blocks a month, it is likely the payout will be higher than slush & others.  Having a 10+ block month will have significantly higher payouts here.
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February 20, 2018, 09:31:35 AM
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Do you think the reason it is taking longer for us to find blocks is because the number of bitcoin transactions are decreasing?

Take a look at this chart - https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions#

Or is this something that is unrelated, and just happens to be dropping at the same time?

There was a burst in number of daily transactions in January just around the time we had a burst in finding blocks.




It's taking longer, because the network difficulty continues to increase every 13 ish days, but our hashrate has stayed constant for the last little while.

in fact, network difficulty is expect to go up 5% tonight overnight (US nite time)

There is a possibility for this to change. We, the members of the pool, could take a few minutes a day to do some promotional
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February 20, 2018, 09:42:28 AM
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Hello, I've been mining for the past few days now, but I do not see any progress on how much I'm making or any payouts anywhere on the status page? any advice?
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February 20, 2018, 09:46:00 AM
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Hello, I've been mining for the past few days now, but I do not see any progress on how much I'm making or any payouts anywhere on the status page? any advice?

Because we haven't found a block for 134 hours.

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February 20, 2018, 09:59:40 AM
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Yep, difficulty just went up 4.62%. Looking at stats, global hashrate has DOUBLED since the start of December 2017. It's a mad race now.
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February 20, 2018, 11:38:04 AM
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also were do i ask for help about upgrading firmware on my s3 using kano firmware?
dont want to use this page if its not for firmware talk lol
Instructions are there:
https://bitbucket.org/TheKano/cgminer-binaries/src
I followed the instructions under the s3 section and putty cant find file on the server that i enter? I even copied and pasted to make sure there was no errors 🤯
putty doesn't find files, it allows you to login to your S3 and type commands Smiley

There's a list of 7 commands there to execute after you login to your S3, and you simply execute them one after the other.

If any command fails you most likely mistyped it.

Edit: or there some problem with your access to the kano.is web site Tongue
just to make sure im not doing anything wrong
do i have to download any of the s3 files?
i open putty enter ip of miner , connect, enter user and password
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cd /
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wget http://kano.is/AntS3/cgminer-ants3-4.9.2-94e04f6-3.tgz
after this i get error  wget: bad address 'kano.is'

im sorry im a total noob lol
my s3 is down and i cant mine with it at the moment Sad
i can access kano.is just fine
That means your miner has no DNS - it can't translate kano.is to an IP address - yep something's wrong at your end!
Replace "kano.is" with the IP address (45.63.95.39) and thus do the DNS manually Smiley
Of course, none of this will stop your S3 working.

for some odd reason it stopped my s3 from mining but all the details r still in the mining pool section, dont know , what i will do is try what your said if i cant sort it out i will just do a factory reset of my s3 and hopfully that will fix my problem
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February 20, 2018, 12:15:46 PM
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My calculations are the same. This pool needs to hit 8 blocks a month for the payout to be more. 1.1% is a big difference if you are making a fixed amount per month but that is not the case. I understand we look back at the history but what history doesn’t take into account is the amount of new hashing power that has come online and will continue to drive the difficulty to the moon. We need to promote the crap out of this pool and start now. It is the BEST pool here hands down but we are not going to win anymore miners here until WE step up and make it happen. When it becomes unaffordable for the larger miners to mine here, they will slowly leave too. It is more than just money to some but eventually everyone will have a breaking point for one reason or another. I love this pool and you guys are the best but we need to get off our asses and come up with a solution.
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February 20, 2018, 12:17:54 PM
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My calculations are the same. This pool needs to hit 8 blocks a month for the payout to be more. 1.1% is a big difference if you are making a fixed amount per month but that is not the case. I understand we look back at the history but what history doesn’t take into account is the amount of new hashing power that has come online and will continue to drive the difficulty to the moon. We need to promote the crap out of this pool and start now. It is the BEST pool here hands down but we are not going to win anymore miners here until WE step up and make it happen. When it becomes unaffordable for the larger miners to mine here, they will slowly leave to. It is more than just money to some bit eventually everyone will have a breaking point for one reason or another. I love this pool and you guys are the best but we need to get off our asses and come up with a solution.

100% agree with you
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February 20, 2018, 12:28:00 PM
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ok question as im a total noob
last block was found 136h in our pool
so now we have a new block to crack
are we still on the same block for 136h or can that block be cracked by another mining pool?
also since the difficulty level gets higher and higher does this mean older miners like s1/s3 have no chance of cracking a block?
hope to have my s1 and s3 back up and running soon , gonna work on them now 
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February 20, 2018, 12:37:16 PM
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also were do i ask for help about upgrading firmware on my s3 using kano firmware?
dont want to use this page if its not for firmware talk lol
Instructions are there:
https://bitbucket.org/TheKano/cgminer-binaries/src
I followed the instructions under the s3 section and putty cant find file on the server that i enter? I even copied and pasted to make sure there was no errors 🤯
putty doesn't find files, it allows you to login to your S3 and type commands Smiley

There's a list of 7 commands there to execute after you login to your S3, and you simply execute them one after the other.

If any command fails you most likely mistyped it.

Edit: or there some problem with your access to the kano.is web site Tongue
just to make sure im not doing anything wrong
do i have to download any of the s3 files?
i open putty enter ip of miner , connect, enter user and password
then
cd /
then
wget http://kano.is/AntS3/cgminer-ants3-4.9.2-94e04f6-3.tgz
after this i get error  wget: bad address 'kano.is'

im sorry im a total noob lol
my s3 is down and i cant mine with it at the moment Sad
i can access kano.is just fine
That means your miner has no DNS - it can't translate kano.is to an IP address - yep something's wrong at your end!
Replace "kano.is" with the IP address (45.63.95.39) and thus do the DNS manually Smiley
Of course, none of this will stop your S3 working.

you legend it worked
i replaced the kano.is with the ip and boom worked straight away
thanks, waiting for reboot and gonna c if theres any difference
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February 20, 2018, 12:50:05 PM
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My calculations are the same. This pool needs to hit 8 blocks a month for the payout to be more. 1.1% is a big difference if you are making a fixed amount per month but that is not the case. I understand we look back at the history but what history doesn’t take into account is the amount of new hashing power that has come online and will continue to drive the difficulty to the moon. We need to promote the crap out of this pool and start now. It is the BEST pool here hands down but we are not going to win anymore miners here until WE step up and make it happen. When it becomes unaffordable for the larger miners to mine here, they will slowly leave too. It is more than just money to some but eventually everyone will have a breaking point for one reason or another. I love this pool and you guys are the best but we need to get off our asses and come up with a solution.

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool, what should be happening is you and everyone already on the pool should be buying more hardware to keep up with the difficulty, getting the rest of the pool bigger but staying the same yourself means you will just get smaller and smaller rewards.

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself. This isn't something new its something everyone has had to do since mining began.

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February 20, 2018, 12:59:40 PM
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My calculations are the same. This pool needs to hit 8 blocks a month for the payout to be more. 1.1% is a big difference if you are making a fixed amount per month but that is not the case. I understand we look back at the history but what history doesn’t take into account is the amount of new hashing power that has come online and will continue to drive the difficulty to the moon. We need to promote the crap out of this pool and start now. It is the BEST pool here hands down but we are not going to win anymore miners here until WE step up and make it happen. When it becomes unaffordable for the larger miners to mine here, they will slowly leave too. It is more than just money to some but eventually everyone will have a breaking point for one reason or another. I love this pool and you guys are the best but we need to get off our asses and come up with a solution.

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool, what should be happening is you and everyone already on the pool should be buying more hardware to keep up with the difficulty, getting the rest of the pool bigger but staying the same yourself means you will just get smaller and smaller rewards.

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself. This isn't something new its something everyone has had to do since mining began.

valid point also - but i would also suggest that with more miners, the probability of cracking more blocks (within the same time period) increases.  Therefore the small miners like us, get more run-rate payouts (albeit smaller share, but more frequent) - which then helps us to fund more rigs.  It all helps.
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February 20, 2018, 02:06:32 PM
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My calculations are the same. This pool needs to hit 8 blocks a month for the payout to be more. 1.1% is a big difference if you are making a fixed amount per month but that is not the case. I understand we look back at the history but what history doesn’t take into account is the amount of new hashing power that has come online and will continue to drive the difficulty to the moon. We need to promote the crap out of this pool and start now. It is the BEST pool here hands down but we are not going to win anymore miners here until WE step up and make it happen. When it becomes unaffordable for the larger miners to mine here, they will slowly leave too. It is more than just money to some but eventually everyone will have a breaking point for one reason or another. I love this pool and you guys are the best but we need to get off our asses and come up with a solution.

Its not about getting more miners to mine at this pool, what should be happening is you and everyone already on the pool should be buying more hardware to keep up with the difficulty, getting the rest of the pool bigger but staying the same yourself means you will just get smaller and smaller rewards.

Instead of spending time trying to get more miners, spend some money and get more hardware yourself. This isn't something new its something everyone has had to do since mining began.

If we all had the money to double our mining operations we wouldn’t be having this discussion. Essentially, since December, each and everyone one of us would have had to double their operation. I am out of power at my home. I can not add anything more. So while your statement in theory is the correct approach, real world application is not possible for some. I am currently setting up a mining facility to do just that and have 3 partners also included in the effort. Together we have purchased 100 additional S9s on the March batch. I understand what you are saying and I am in agreement and also actively doing something about it but that solution is not as easily implemented in the real world as it is on paper.
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February 20, 2018, 02:50:41 PM
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Yep, mining is not as easy as it used to be for any of us but you have to have a plan and stick to it.  Once my March shipment comes in I will have nearly doubled my hash since the end of December.  That's the way it is now.
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February 20, 2018, 02:59:56 PM
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Yep, mining is not as easy as it used to be for any of us but you have to have a plan and stick to it.  Once my March shipment comes in I will have nearly doubled my hash since the end of December.  That's the way it is now.


1/2 of my Avalon's will go online tomorrow, not braving the possible 2-5 inches here today just to get 24 hours of mining and 5 hours of lost driving time.  haha
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Stickin Wit It!! Mine On With Kano-San!! Come On Luck!!
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