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February 25, 2018, 09:10:58 PM
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Could you imagine quantum computing miners? [drool]

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February 25, 2018, 09:29:36 PM
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I like all the different explanations. It’s actually making a lot more sense to me.
I wonder if anyone has a visual or graphical explanation as well
Well I did this one a while ago Smiley
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.msg26608107#msg26608107

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February 25, 2018, 09:30:49 PM
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just registered but never got e-mail from kanopool  Roll Eyes
not even in spam folder.
Since I cannot use hotmail I used my personal website
e-mail. I cannot add bitcoin payout address without
verifying your e-mail first.

However I got e-mail when I put bitcoin payout address.

So I don´t know if your service communications are reliable or not.
Also check you didn't mistype your email address Smiley
I see that every so often.

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February 25, 2018, 09:35:58 PM
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Could you imagine quantum computing miners? [drool]

Could you imagine the quantum miner difficulty rise.
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February 25, 2018, 09:56:57 PM
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Could you imagine quantum computing miners? [drool]

Could you imagine the quantum miner difficulty rise.
Do'h! Twarted again...  Cry

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February 25, 2018, 10:24:40 PM
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i have a rookie question? why dose kanopool reject like ten times more then btc.com ? in last 24h on kano i got 11 rejected and 886 hw errors. 24 h on btc.com had 1 reject and like 90 errors :/
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February 25, 2018, 10:45:06 PM
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i have a rookie question? why dose kanopool reject like ten times more then btc.com ? in last 24h on kano i got 11 rejected and 886 hw errors. 24 h on btc.com had 1 reject and like 90 errors :/

HW errors have to do with your miner.  As for the rejects, it's different with each pool on the work being supplied to the miners.
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February 25, 2018, 10:51:33 PM
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i have a rookie question? why dose kanopool reject like ten times more then btc.com ? in last 24h on kano i got 11 rejected and 886 hw errors. 24 h on btc.com had 1 reject and like 90 errors :/

HW errors have to do with your miner.  As for the rejects, it's different with each pool on the work being supplied to the miners.

jst curious as to why so many more errors since i switched to kano. is kano pool somehow harder on the machine or something ?
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February 25, 2018, 11:02:05 PM
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i have a rookie question? why dose kanopool reject like ten times more then btc.com ? in last 24h on kano i got 11 rejected and 886 hw errors. 24 h on btc.com had 1 reject and like 90 errors :/

HW errors have to do with your miner.  As for the rejects, it's different with each pool on the work being supplied to the miners.

jst curious as to why so many more errors since i switched to kano. is kano pool somehow harder on the machine or something ?
There are 3 things about rejects:
1) Long term, it depends on how close you are to the node you are mining to
  see the first post to find a closer node if you are not close to the main node
2) They're random so you may get a run of rejects and then not many.
 aside: it could also be when you first connect you get a bunch of "hi" rejects caused by your miner
    click on the "Show Details for Invalids:" check box on the Workers->Workers page to see what the rejects are.
3) 11 stales in 24 hours is actually very good.
 Over 24 hours there's about 144 work changes, so that means if they are all stale, you are averaging only one stale per 13 work changes or about 1 every 2 hours.
  However, certain old versions of Bitmain miners throw away stale shares and don't send them to the pool even though they should.
  This can include stale blocks that we can on rare occasions turn into 2 blocks ... ... ... ... ...

Errors are the miner's fault, not the pool Smiley

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February 25, 2018, 11:17:39 PM
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i have a rookie question? why dose kanopool reject like ten times more then btc.com ? in last 24h on kano i got 11 rejected and 886 hw errors. 24 h on btc.com had 1 reject and like 90 errors :/

HW errors have to do with your miner.  As for the rejects, it's different with each pool on the work being supplied to the miners.

jst curious as to why so many more errors since i switched to kano. is kano pool somehow harder on the machine or something ?
There are 3 things about rejects:
1) Long term, it depends on how close you are to the node you are mining to
  see the first post to find a closer node if you are not close to the main node
2) They're random so you may get a run of rejects and then not many.
 aside: it could also be when you first connect you get a bunch of "hi" rejects caused by your miner
    click on the "Show Details for Invalids:" check box on the Workers->Workers page to see what the rejects are.
3) 11 stales in 24 hours is actually very good.
 Over 24 hours there's about 144 work changes, so that means if they are all stale, you are averaging only one stale per 13 work changes or about 1 every 2 hours.
  However, certain old versions of Bitmain miners throw away stale shares and don't send them to the pool even though they should.
  This can include stale blocks that we can on rare occasions turn into 2 blocks ... ... ... ... ...

Errors are the miner's fault, not the pool Smiley

As long as your errors are less than the pool average (look at the top left of every web page) you have nothing to worry about.  The Workers page on Kano just reports errors more accurately that other pools. Grin

HW errors are unique to your machine.  Sometimes miners generate more HW errors than other times.  It can be related to temps or simply the wear and tear of the chips themselves.  Sometimes I can reboot a miner and it will start up with a ton of errors...other times the same machine will boot up with zero errors.
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February 25, 2018, 11:30:27 PM
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As long as your errors are less than the pool average (look at the top left of every web page) you have nothing to worry about.  The Workers page on Kano just reports errors more accurately that other pools. Grin

HW errors are unique to your machine.  Sometimes miners generate more HW errors than other times.  It can be related to temps or simply the wear and tear of the chips themselves.  Sometimes I can reboot a miner and it will start up with a ton of errors...other times the same machine will boot up with zero errors.

I noticed this, this past week. I lost power twice. The first time, the miners rebooted with no errors. The second time, they ran in
30°f temps without hashing, just cold air blowing through them. Needless to say, the number of errors are much higher. It took
about 3hrs to get consistent speeds.

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February 26, 2018, 12:08:48 AM
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sounds like these machines are a little touchy then Cheesy still got my 13.6 Th so im happy i guess it was jst a curiosity Cheesy
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February 26, 2018, 03:08:57 AM
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I like all the different explanations. It’s actually making a lot more sense to me.
I wonder if anyone has a visual or graphical explanation as well

vertical bar is pay time
=  is the period of times that the paybot looks at to see what your shars are of the pay
0   is where u are mining
*   paybot on the time line
                                                                    
   |-----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----| time lines


pay 1   |-----*----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|  (start)
            0000
            ===


pay 2   |-----|----*----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|    (ramp up the bot looks back 5 sections u only working 2)
           0000 0000
           === ===

pay 5   |-----|----|----|----|----*----|----|----|----|----|----|----|----|    (you stop mining here)
           0000 0000 000 000 000
           === === === == ==


pay 7   |-----|----|----|----|----|----|----*----|----|----|----|----|----|    (ramping down u are only payed for 3 sections here cause you stoped at section 5)(3 more paydays and you will stop getting paid ! )
           0000 000 000 000  000                                                            
                          === == == === ==

not much good at drawing especially on forum but this is the way i sorta see it Cheesy


i like this

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February 26, 2018, 03:10:09 AM
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Previous ramp post of mine back when the ramp was 3 days:
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How it actually works, as opposed to how you see a 'ramp', is that your payouts are simply spread out over 5ND which is currently about 3 days.
You get paid for each share you submit, over the 3 days after you submit the share.
What this does is reduce the variance in your payouts.
Something like this if you think of it as submitting a share (s) each block:
Code:
                        s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
                  s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
            s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
      s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
If you consider the + to be the reward points when we find a block, the 5ND is simply the time it takes for the overlap of all '5' shares
Of course you keep submitting shares, so the gap appearing at the bottom doesn't begin until you stop mining e.g.:
Code:
                        s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
                  s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
            s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
      s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+s----+-----+-----+-----+-----+
The height/number of '+'s is the relative reward.

this makes a lot of sense 

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February 26, 2018, 04:03:12 AM
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c'mon little pool ... let's get that expected 100% back!

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February 26, 2018, 08:12:37 AM
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just registered but never got e-mail from kanopool  Roll Eyes
not even in spam folder.
Since I cannot use hotmail I used my personal website
e-mail. I cannot add bitcoin payout address without
verifying your e-mail first.

So I don´t know if your service is reliable or not.
If you meet the criteria of the first quote and never got an email, try re-sending it from the section of the website where the second quote is from.

Quote from: kano.is/index.php?k=settings
N.B. you must verify your email, if you change it,
before you can change other settings.

Quote from: kano.is/index.php?k=verify
Send a new verification key to my email
Thanks re-sending e-mail worked for me. :-)
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February 26, 2018, 08:25:33 AM
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Happy to join the pool. I tried test runs at antpool, slushpool but I think those
pools are taking too much profits. Nicehash is good but I am not sure about it´s
security because it got hacked.

How long does the rewards take to be seen on my account?

I run Antminer s9 14Th which still should be profitable.
My other miner is Antminer L3+ that´s for litecoin mining
but in other pool
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February 26, 2018, 08:53:32 AM
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Happy to join the pool. I tried test runs at antpool, slushpool but I think those
pools are taking too much profits. Nicehash is good but I am not sure about it´s
security because it got hacked.

How long does the rewards take to be seen on my account?

I run Antminer s9 14Th which still should be profitable.
My other miner is Antminer L3+ that´s for litecoin mining
but in other pool
You get a reward each time anyone finds a block Smiley

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February 26, 2018, 11:57:19 AM
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Block.
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We FOUND a Block!!!
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