CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded GPU kernels.

[sp_]

quark

970 g1:
core: 1366
mem: 1500


sp-mod 74: 16800
sp-mod 78: 17400 (+3.5%)
sp-mod priv: 17800 (+6%)

750ti strix:

core: 1240
mem: 1350

sp-mod 74: 6220
sp-mod 78: 6140  (-1.3%)
sp-mod priv: 6325 (+1.7%)

1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

sshh don't rain on his parade  

2 in 1 day.... i kinda feel bad.... :/

My strix card is trottleing. I am loosing 30khz because of power. TDP of just 38Watts.

[djm34]

quark

970 g1:
core: 1366
mem: 1500


sp-mod 74: 16800
sp-mod 78: 17400 (+3.5%)
sp-mod priv: 17800 (+6%)

750ti strix:

core: 1240
mem: 1350

sp-mod 74: 6220
sp-mod 78: 6140  (-1.3%)
sp-mod priv: 6325 (+1.7%)

1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

sshh don't rain on his parade 

2 in 1 day.... i kinda feel bad.... :/

yep more parade than at Disneyland 

[s7icky]

quark

970 g1:
core: 1366
mem: 1500


sp-mod 74: 16800
sp-mod 78: 17400 (+3.5%)
sp-mod priv: 17800 (+6%)

750ti strix:

core: 1240
mem: 1350

sp-mod 74: 6220
sp-mod 78: 6140  (-1.3%)
sp-mod priv: 6325 (+1.7%)

1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

sshh don't rain on his parade  

2 in 1 day.... i kinda feel bad.... :/

My strix card is trottleing. I am loosing 30mhz because of power. TDP of just 38Watts.

is that why my 750ti does 100+mh more then ur "private miner"

[sp_]

I just tested the latest quark kernal from before I started the sp-mod project.

https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-standard/releases

750ti strix:
ccminer12-djm34: 4700
sp-mod priv: 6325 (+34%)

970 g1:
ccminer12-djm34: 10300
sp-mod priv: 17800 (+72%)

960 strix:
djm34: 6600
sp-mod priv: 10900 (+65%)

[sp_]

is that why my 750ti does 100+mh more then ur "private miner"

With small adjustments this kernal can do 7.2MHASH on this card. Increase TDP and overclock.

[s7icky]

I just tested the latest quark kernal from before I started the sp-mod project.

https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-standard/releases

750ti strix:
ccminer12-djm34: 4700
sp-mod priv: 6325 (+34%)

970 g1:
ccminer12-djm34: 10300
sp-mod priv: 17800 (+72%)

960 strix:
djm34: 6600
sp-mod priv: 10900 (+65%)

dont u basically cherry pick alot of commits from other people also or is quark 100% yours?

[DragonSlayer]

I just compared the original lyra2v2 from djm34 on my asus strix 750ti

1. https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-lyra/releases/tag/v0.5
2. https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/tag/1.5.78 (opensource)
3. Buyable private miner (0.1BTC) pm for details.


asus strix 750ti:

1. djm34: 4260
2. 78-sp: 4470khash (+4.9%)
3. priv-sp: 4700khash. (+10.3%)

windforce 970 g1:

1. djm34: 9600
2. 78-sp: 9800 (+2.08%)
3. priv-sp: 10200 (+6.25%)

Asus strix 960:

1. djm34: 5750
2. 78-sp: 6100 (+6%)
3. priv-sp: 6330(+10.08%)

ok... so finally it isn't 5% more on every release, but 5% on the total of the 50 releases or so, since I released the private miner.
which, by the way, can already do the number you quote with a little tuning and OC (if my gainward 750ti can do 4.7MH/s there is no reason that
the more powerful 750ti can't...)

Might do a pledge for my fast lyrav2 version which does about 20% faster than your private version  

Please, I would chip in.

[djm34]

I just tested the latest quark kernal from before I started the sp-mod project.

https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-standard/releases

750ti strix:
ccminer12-djm34: 4700
sp-mod priv: 6325 (+34%)

970 g1:
ccminer12-djm34: 10300
sp-mod priv: 17800 (+72%)

960 strix:
djm34: 6600
sp-mod priv: 10900 (+65%)

why are you always showing a quark from one of my release, I never worked on it (kinda ridiculous... imo)  
but I may one day... 

[sp_]

I just compared the original lyra2v2 from djm34 on my asus strix 750ti

1. https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-lyra/releases/tag/v0.5
2. https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/releases/tag/1.5.78 (opensource)
3. Buyable private miner (0.1BTC) pm for details.


asus strix 750ti:

1. djm34: 4260
2. 78-sp: 4470khash (+4.9%)
3. priv-sp: 4700khash. (+10.3%)

windforce 970 g1:

1. djm34: 9600
2. 78-sp: 9800 (+2.08%)
3. priv-sp: 10200 (+6.25%)

Asus strix 960:

1. djm34: 5750
2. 78-sp: 6100 (+6%)
3. priv-sp: 6330(+10.08%)

ok... so finally it isn't 5% more on every release, but 5% on the total of the 50 releases or so, since I released the private miner.
which, by the way, can already do the number you quote with a little tuning and OC (if my gainward 750ti can do 4.7MH/s there is no reason that
the more powerful 750ti can't...)
Might do a pledge for my fast lyrav2 version which does about 20% faster than your private version  

lyra2v2 came in release 60
10% faster in 19 releases. Around 0.5% per release in average.

[sp_]

dont u basically cherry pick alot of commits from other people also or is quark 100% yours?

Nobody has done a public kernal mod since pallas added 10% in the neoscrypt. If there was something to cherry pick, I probobly would.
Let's wait for the optimized djm34 neoscrypt kernal. Perhaps I can squeze out a few percent.

[sp_]

I just tested the latest quark kernal from before I started the sp-mod project.

https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-standard/releases

750ti strix:
ccminer12-djm34: 4700
sp-mod priv: 6325 (+34%)

970 g1:
ccminer12-djm34: 10300
sp-mod priv: 17800 (+72%)

960 strix:
djm34: 6600
sp-mod priv: 10900 (+65%)

why are you always showing a quark from one of my release, I never worked on it (kinda ridiculous... imo)  
but I may one day...  

The point is that if I did two releases per year as you do, my kernals would also be 30% faster or more each time I do a release...

[sp_]

1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?

...

The answer is  117% gain


And you can not close chrome and disable hardware acc... 78 times to get the 117% gain, you need to code.

[s7icky]

keyword... "IF".............

[djm34]

1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?
The answer is  117% gain

like for lyra2rev2 ? 5% at each release   with a global 5%   (what kind of math is that ??)

why I am even trolling this ?  

[s7icky]

1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?
The answer is  117% gain

like for lyra2rev2 ? 5% at each release   with a global 5%   (what kind of math is that ??)

why I am even trolling this ?  

we can maths here well.

[scryptr]

1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?
The answer is  117% gain

like for lyra2rev2 ? 5% at each release   with a global 5%   (what kind of math is that ??)

why I am even trolling this ?  

we can maths here well.

SERIOUSLY, FOLKS!!! --

My EVGA GTX 960 SC mining with Private Miner while being auto-switched by NiceHash Miner makes about 50 cents (1/2 Dollar, USA) per day on a GOOD day.  It is the only card that can use the Private Miner; my other rigs are Linux. Return of Investment (ROI) for this miner is a couple months or more, if I only count what I earn on this card.

What I am hoping is that enough miners will contribute a proportion of their proceeds to convince sp_ (and DJM34) to start including the improved code in the open source distributions.  Not everyone pulls in big digital chips, but all together it can matter.  My few rigs will bring in enough to cover my recent contributions within a week.  If the coders start disributing their code freely soon, my Linux rigs will benefit, too.       --scryptr

POP QUIZ:  500kh/s is what percentage of 11MH/s?  (hint: Quark improvement)

[chrysophylax]

1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?
The answer is  117% gain

like for lyra2rev2 ? 5% at each release   with a global 5%   (what kind of math is that ??)

why I am even trolling this ?  

we can maths here well.

SERIOUSLY, FOLKS!!! --

My EVGA GTX 960 SC mining with Private Miner while being auto-switched by NiceHash Miner makes about 50 cents (1/2 Dollar, USA) per day on a GOOD day.  It is the only card that can use the Private Miner; my other rigs are Linux. Return of Investment (ROI) for this miner is a couple months or more, if I only count what I earn on this card.

What I am hoping is that enough miners will contribute a proportion of their proceeds to convince sp_ (and DJM34) to start including the improved code in the open source distributions.  Not everyone pulls in big digital chips, but all together it can matter.  My few rigs will bring in enough to cover my recent contributions within a week.  If the coders start disributing their code freely soon, my Linux rigs will benefit, too.       --scryptr

POP QUIZ:  500kh/s is what percentage of 11MH/s?  (hint: Quark improvement)

ditto ...

ditto ...

o yes - and ditto ...

my argument exactly ...

though i cant look at roi - as there is no real thing as roi in this type of investment ...

windows ... pffft ...

#crysx

[joblo]

1% can be done by closing chrome and disable hardware acc... just saying.

here is a math question:

I have released 78 exe files.
If I have done 1% improvement in an algo in each release. How many percent is the total gain?
The answer is  117% gain

like for lyra2rev2 ? 5% at each release   with a global 5%   (what kind of math is that ??)

why I am even trolling this ?  

we can maths here well.

SERIOUSLY, FOLKS!!! --

My EVGA GTX 960 SC mining with Private Miner while being auto-switched by NiceHash Miner makes about 50 cents (1/2 Dollar, USA) per day on a GOOD day.  It is the only card that can use the Private Miner; my other rigs are Linux. Return of Investment (ROI) for this miner is a couple months or more, if I only count what I earn on this card.

What I am hoping is that enough miners will contribute a proportion of their proceeds to convince sp_ (and DJM34) to start including the improved code in the open source distributions.  Not everyone pulls in big digital chips, but all together it can matter.  My few rigs will bring in enough to cover my recent contributions within a week.  If the coders start disributing their code freely soon, my Linux rigs will benefit, too.       --scryptr

POP QUIZ:  500kh/s is what percentage of 11MH/s?  (hint: Quark improvement)

ditto ...

ditto ...

o yes - and ditto ...

my argument exactly ...

though i cant look at roi - as there is no real thing as roi in this type of investment ...

windows ... pffft ...

#crysx

Sure there is, well it can be estimated based on expected mining revenue.

scryptr paid for 500 kh of quark. His ROI is how long it would take to recover the cost of the miner with 500 kh
after subtracting the cost of electricity to power that much hash. The falacy is that all the hash produced by the
miner is going toward ROI.

The problem is optimization is an incremental process that produces diminishing returns and requires a lot more
effort to produce small improvements. These kinds of improvements only appeal to large operations that with scale
can ROI in a much shorter time. It is complicated by the migration to cuda 7.5 where a lot of effort is needed just to
recover lost hash compared to 6.5, not something most people are prepared to pay for.

I expect donations to be pretty thin until something new happens. It just the nature of the business.

[sp_]

Sure there is, well it can be estimated based on expected mining revenue.

scryptr paid for 500 kh of quark. His ROI is how long it would take to recover the cost of the miner with 500 kh
after subtracting the cost of electricity to power that much hash. The falacy is that all the hash produced by the
miner is going toward ROI.

He also got 0.7MHash in the lyra2v2 algo


scryptr's results on the gtx 960 (compared to release 74 / nicehashminer):

keccak: +20%
lyra2v2: +11,64%
quark: +5.55%
Qubit: +3.03%
Nist5: +2.2%
x11: +2%
x13: +1.8%
Whirlpoolx: +1.2%

8 algos (including the most profitable) with an average percent increase of 5.9% more hash

The problem is optimization is an incremental process that produces diminishing returns and requires a lot more
effort to produce small improvements. These kinds of improvements only appeal to large operations that with scale
can ROI in a much shorter time.

With the private miner scryptr is earning $3.5 per card. Most of you have 10 cards or more. Some of you have more than 100 cards, and some have 1000+ cards.

It is complicated by the migration to cuda 7.5 where a lot of effort is needed just to
recover lost hash compared to 6.5, not something most people are prepared to pay for.

But it has to be done, and somebody had to do the job. The miner will get a higher hashrate in the end because the compiler is smarter and bether than before..

I expect donations to be pretty thin until something new happens. It just the nature of the business.

What do you think will happen when DJM34 will release his 25%  faster miner and everybody mine neoscrypt? Is feathercoin and the clones able to hold the massive increase in the hashrate?
No.. The difficulty will rise, and the profit will decline. Then everybody will go back to mine another more profitable algo with the sp-mod.
The only way to guarantee a profit increase is to optimize all the minable algos.

I have done this in the private miner. You can buy the private miner for 0.1BTC and verify the results yourself.

[sp_]

Yesterday I looked at the x11-x15 algos again. I have found some improvements.. The next version of the private miner will have a boost in x11-x15 , qubit , whirlpool, whirlpoolx and perhaps quark.