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April 13, 2013, 07:58:28 PM
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This is ridiculous. It rose all day and had no signs of going below $100.

Do people really believe that so many people simultaneously decided to sell that 30 minutes of lag was created?

This is clear manipulation that gox still hasn't been able to prevent.

There is no manipulation here. Many bulls dropped from the game, and bears are prevailing now. The market always will go up and down, even a bear market. It's nothing unusual that it was rising for some time.

I really, really beg to differ.

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April 13, 2013, 07:59:31 PM
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i think it was just online vendors converting btx to fiat ...
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April 13, 2013, 08:00:11 PM
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It is manipulation or incompetent bugs in their system. I question if ANY of them at Gox even know this is happening right now or if they are all just sleeping while their 24/7 exchange goes to hell.

ONE person sold 2000k form 115 down to 110. Then magically 10 minutes of lag had appeared within 5 minutes. It never stopped rising from there despite next to no real activity for most of that rise. The trading that has been happening is pretty typical and usually not laggy.

It's their incompetence, nothing else. If I would guess how their system works, I would say:

Their "trading engine" is just a PHP script that keeps a queue of orders, and executes them synchronously with each trade being it's own locking transaction to prevent errors. PHP isn't exactly known for its raw processing speed, nor is MySQL, by default. Of course there ARE high-volume sites using PHP, but they often use many tricks to make it run faster (like Facebook which uses PHP but recompiles parts of it to barebones C, lookup "HipHop" for more details). They've said that upon executing an order they have to check all matching orders for their validity. This means grabbing a ton of data from MySQL and iterating over it. This, combined with slow message queue (which as I said probably is just a PHP script, not a 0MQ or something else), gives us what we see now. And when people see lag, they sell even more, thus adding more to the already blocked queue.

Remember, the site was designed to trade Magic the Gathering cards, not trading thousands of Bitcoins per minute.
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April 13, 2013, 08:00:28 PM
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April 13, 2013, 08:01:09 PM
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I assume the BTC0.04 sells that have been going on through this whole thing are also a coincidence?

I'm not saying the price can't come back down, but there's nothing normal about how it's happening.

There is not too many 0.04 sells. There is a lot of 0.04 buy orders spread in order book which are executed one by one when someone sell 100BTC for example.
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April 13, 2013, 08:01:17 PM
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i think it was just online vendors converting btx to fiat ...

101 my ass... bots trying to fight at that price with cents orders

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April 13, 2013, 08:03:23 PM
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This is ridiculous. It rose all day and had no signs of going below $100.

Do people really believe that so many people simultaneously decided to sell that 30 minutes of lag was created?

This is clear manipulation that gox still hasn't been able to prevent.

There is no manipulation here. Many bulls dropped from the game, and bears are prevailing now. The market always will go up and down, even a bear market. It's nothing unusual that it was rising for some time.

I really, really beg to differ.

We don't even need to beg to differ, haha, this lag start under completely normal trading conditions, no break up, no break down. A simple sale of 2000 down means next to NOTHING in this market now. But not only that, there was next to no activity immediately following that sale, things were calmish but lag rising. For the next hour even with that lag there was still generally little activity aside from a few panicing big orders.
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April 13, 2013, 08:04:08 PM
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April 13, 2013, 08:04:51 PM
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lag now over 46 mins  Grin .. based on past events we should see epic panic and single digits within 2 hrs...

srsly wtf Mt gox Huh
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April 13, 2013, 08:05:43 PM
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Pull the plug eh?

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April 13, 2013, 08:06:49 PM
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When I make my first bitcoin million I am personally flying to Japan to take a piss through the letterbox of each and every MtGox employee.

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April 13, 2013, 08:07:17 PM
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lag now over 46 mins  Grin .. based on past events we should see epic panic and single digits within 2 hrs...

srsly wtf Mt gox Huh
Panic set in immediately 3 days ago when this happened in the 250s for very different reasons. This has been a slow grind with way less people panicing. That was a colossal panic hysteria from the start.
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April 13, 2013, 08:07:21 PM
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They're going to have to pull the plug again.


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April 13, 2013, 08:07:56 PM
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When I make my first bitcoin million I am personally flying to Japan to take a piss through the letterbox of each and every MtGox employee.

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April 13, 2013, 08:08:03 PM
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When I make my first bitcoin million I am personally flying to Japan to take a piss through the letterbox of each and every MtGox employee.

Im coming with you.
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April 13, 2013, 08:09:55 PM
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lag now over 46 mins  Grin .. based on past events we should see epic panic and single digits within 2 hrs...

srsly wtf Mt gox Huh
Panic set in immediately 3 days ago when this happened in the 250s for very different reasons. This has been a slow grind with way less people panicing. That was a colossal panic hysteria from the start.

It does hold surprisingly good so far, tbh, but I think it will go down more, maybe not as 3 days ago but doubt it can hold it at this level. There's 100 buy at 98 now, I'd never do it at this moment tbh.

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When I make my first bitcoin million I am personally flying to Japan to take a piss through the letterbox of each and every MtGox employee.

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April 13, 2013, 08:11:24 PM
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when vendors done dumping it will climb back to over 100 ...
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hm, 100+ again and nice buy order on 100

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