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March 04, 2015, 02:09:02 AM
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in this email their sharing a cracked version of microsoft word https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!topic/josh/NGRO-FSPOJE sending a email to bill.

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Same here.  That didn't last long!  I hope people were archiving.
I don't think you got the links right, mine are still working fine:
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https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!forum/ocf
Copy and paste the full address, this forum breaks the links for some reason

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Feb 27Scott Fargo
HI David,
I just wanted to let you know Josh was able to talk about the issues that were brought up in the article.

In the last few days leading up to this article more information has been publicly released and things have happened from PayBase and TeamXPY and none of that was mentioned.

There are things promised that are actually happening. I have in my possession the emails confirming they have struck the deal with MasterCard.  Despite coinfire who again called Master Card to ask about a partnership that was not announced they have a deal with a processor as it normally goes to provide debit cards to their customers.

The reason  am writing this is because good or bad news it does not matter I take a ton of crap.  I cannot even use reddit anymore due to the crap storm from the PayCoin/GAW stuff.  I covered their news good and bad since they started their business.  This negatively effects me even more when a one sided article like this comes out.  I can and will connect writers with Josh or anyone in the Mining industry be it cloud or physical.  I would have made sure Josh responded to Paul's request for a comment.

I have not published anything on PayCoin/GAW anywhere to try and weather this storm.  I have slowed down my writing to the point I just got the lowest payment since I started CCN because I am so frustrated with all the harassment I get.  I was literally cyber bullied out of the funds that were donated to me by the community to pay my medical bills putting me in a very difficult financial situation.

Paul is a writer I respect very much and consider him a friend I am not bashing him here. I just think we need to stay neutral in this we cannot swing to negative just to placate these few people.

I have learned the hard way they do not care about any of us what we do or do not do.  They have their own agenda to destroy Josh and his company no matter the people the have to hurt to do so.

I included Josh in this email because I wanted you both to know how I feel.  This has ruined me and my family financially.  It has shaken my self confidence as a writer.
My point is we need to stay neutral here we need to cover both sides or not at all.  I will get any info I can from Josh to give you as proof.  I will copy you David on the Master Card emails like I did the Gyft information if you want and Josh is ok with me sending them

This whole situation has messed me up badly.  I was sitting here writing about the BitFury 28nm release when I started getting msgs about the article getting blamed by one side for not bashing GAW enough (despite it not being my article) and the other side wondering why CCN would only print the negative side.

I am sorry for this wall of text to both of you but I have had my entire life directly affected by this. 
Please let me know what I can do here to help??

I want to reiterate as well that I am not nor have I been paid by Josh.  People seem to throw that out there anytime I do anything.

As a note David I will have my BitFury article ready in a couple hours.

Thank you for the opportunity to be part of the CCN team and thank you Josh for taking the time to contact me inside details for verification on things you announce.

Thank you,
Scott

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Feb 27Josh Garza
Thank you Scott, and I can confirm the same things. You are a man of integrity.

We did find it ironic that CCN rushed out to write and entire story about a credit processor (stripe) that is had no real facts about, yet did not write an article about gyft, even though it had the evidence.

Then to read this article, also without any attempt to collect any real facts. Who writes an article about a companies programs and does not contact them? Even coinfire contacts us before they write their garbage.

I am not sure asking for a quote after the damage is done, is an ethical way of handling things.

The appropriate way to handle this is to write another piece and take ownership of the fact they we were never asked for our plans. Then report on our plans, so the facts are actually delivered.

I hope the right thing happens.

Josh

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I would like to have a new article with all your plans revealed, can you give us a sum of it and either Scott or another journalist can write a follow up. That would be good.

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Feb 28Josh Garza
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This is a bit challenging as we are not ready to show them all. I guess the point is more that had they contacted us, we could have given them a high level plan which would have debunked the entire article.

In essence, the article that is there is very false as it missing facts.

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Feb 28Scott Fargo
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Hi David and Josh,
Let me think a bit on how best to address this.  I do think David you are right an article with the proof and info is a good idea.
That being said Josh I know you have things you cannot talk about yet.
Let me think of a way to present what you can release publicly and also maybe get Team PayCoin involved.
If we can present a balanced article I feel it would be a good thing.
Give me a couple days.  I am so beaten down by all of this I do not want to make any mistakes.

Thank you both for reading my concerns last night.  This has been very stressful for me.
Scott
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March 04, 2015, 02:13:48 AM
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I'm just a random person who has been following this story since it popped up on Reddit, and I don't know how to archive. But I would think that anyone who does might want to start with the second of the groups linked by gawneedstobestopped, and start at the beginning. Because the first group has 226 topics and goes from today back to Feb. 15, while the second goes from Feb. 14 back to -- well, I haven't scrolled that far yet, but it has 8247 topics. Which might well take us back to before Paycoin launched.

Random eh?

Sure you are.

Folks I think that this is an attempt to obfuscate the truth. Proceed with caution.

I'm LightOneCandle on Reddit. I mostly hang out on BitTippers, and sometimes on r/Assistance. Feel free to check out my profile. Never invested in GAW; never held any alt except for less than one bitcoin, and I think a few Doge that someone tipped me once. I just happened to get back from an evening out when the link to the first group was posted, and thought: wtf?

That said, of course no one can tell if you're a dog on the internet, etc., etc. That said: all I know is that the second group has a lot more info than the first, and I would have thought that it covers a more interesting timeframe. That's all I said: if you think that suggesting an order in which to archive the emails counts as 'obfuscating the truth', feel free.
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March 04, 2015, 02:14:03 AM
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Shutting down HT for a couple of months...

https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!topic/josh/2RrnyuprDaw

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March 04, 2015, 02:15:28 AM
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Josh getting sued https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/group/josh/attach/d653239546d44a73/JBS%20ltr%20to%20J%20Garza%203-3-15.pdf?part=0.1&authuser=0

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good work on the archives guys.

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Guys and gals, I appreciate archiving the stuff.

Sadly I got to go, so much interesting reading in those e-mails - hopefully it will still be there when I get back. If anybody has the time and the means please archive as much as you can.
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   New chat message received from Jason_B
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Hello GAWCEO,

New message from Jason_B:

I anxiously await when GAW makes good on their word for the buyback, and merchant options, debit card etc

Click here to continue the conversation
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Hello GAWCEO,

New message from Jason_B:

i have several thousand invested in XPY so yes I am a little emotion when I lose a substantial investment... substantial to me anyways.

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He gets faux blazers from China lol




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Hello GAW team

We see that there is still a small amount of BTC remaining in your BitGo wallets. Can you please move that final amount today? As of tomorrow we will be freezing these wallets in our online software and you will need to use our offline recovery tool and your two private keys to initiate any other transactions. Please note that since we do not hold your BTC, we have no way of transacting on your behalf. Your BTC is secured on the blockchain and you may use our online wallet software to transact until tomorrow, after which you will need to use our offline recovery tool.

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This is a reminder that we are going ahead with the suspension of your account today, February 10. Please move any remaining BTC to another wallet before the end of today.

On Thursday, February 12, we will complete the action of terminating your account.

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Feb 16John Caceres
Hey:

Hope you're having a good day. I sent you an email about responding to these questions in anticipation of an 11am call tomorrow. Would be great, as I alluded to earlier, to respond to each question and then I'll respond to your responses...question, play devil's advocate. If you need more time, I can let Kate know and we can try pushing it back to a later time in the day.

Please let me know, soonest, as I'll be out of touch from about 6:30 until tomorrow morning, when I'll be headed to CT. (Nikki's internet and phone will be installed tomorrow so I'll have service when I'm there going forward). I also suggested that you and I are in the same room...perhaps the conference room, while this is taking place.

I look forward to hearing from you.

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Hey! Thanks for writing me! So I am interested in what's going on with GAW and Paycoin. I have seen that people are upset about how things are playing out, so I'm hoping you can address what is going on:

1) There are claims that Paycoin reneged on a promise for a $20 floor, as I'm sure you know. I am looking for clarity here: Did anyone acting as a representative for GAW explicitly make this promise?

2) Can you offer insight about why this controversy happened- is it a misconception in the community? (I have read this post: https://blog.paybase.com/paycoin-and-the-20-base-an-overview/) but I am more interested in what GAW is doing *currently* to get the coin price up, and whether GAW still plans on fulfilling that goal.

3) This is what Josh is quoted as saying in an article on Coinbase:

“I always said two things. We would buy paycoins at $20, or we would use our resources to manage to $20. They both mean the same thing. We will do everything in our power to make the price $20. And that's what we are doing.”

Is that an accurate quote?

4) Are you being investigated by the SEC? If so, for what?

5) What do you think some of the biggest misunderstandings/untruths floating around about GAW and Paycoin are?

6) Can you reveal any upcoming partnerships? With Amazon or other retailers/merchants? Or if you can't reveal specific partnerships, can you talk about what GAW is doing to pursue partnerships?

7) What are some POSITIVE things happening with Paycoin right now?

I have other questions but these are the most pressing right now, I think. Thanks!

Kate Knibbs
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On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 8:20 AM, John Caceres <jo...@btc.com> wrote:
Good morning, Kate.

I'm hoping this finds you well. Josh Garza, my partner, passed along your contact information given that I am the media contact and spokesperson for our company. Nice to be contacted by Gizmodo, a publication we hold in high regard and one that is balanced, reporting with integrity.

It would be most helpful if you could summarize or list the topics you would like to discuss.

We look forward to hearing from you and working with Gizmodo. In the meantime, have a great morning.

With best regards,

John

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thought you may have been copied on responses...in reviewing them, again. I saw that you were not. I have not heard back from Gizmodo, yet. If I don't hear back soon, I'll reach out to her.

Also, have sent Jonah an email regarding what we spoke about yesterday.

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From: Jonah Dorman <jo...@btc.com>
Date: Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: GAW
To: John Caceres <jo...@btc.com>


1) There are claims that Paycoin reneged on a promise for a $20 floor, as I'm sure you know. I am looking for clarity here: Did anyone acting as a representative for GAW explicitly make this promise?

"No comment."

2) Can you offer insight about why this controversy happened- is it a misconception in the community? (I have read this post: https://blog.paybase.com/paycoin-and-the-20-base-an-overview/) but I am more interested in what GAW is doing *currently* to get the coin price up, and whether GAW still plans on fulfilling that goal.

The company is currently actively seeking merchant partners, working with a development team on a roadmap which will solidify the development of PayCoin as laid out in the whitepaper.  There are new stores and services coming online and being actively built which will increase the usability of PayCoin and we have not forgotten our core vision in developing PayCoin. 

3) This is what Josh is quoted as saying in an article on Coinbase:

“I always said two things. We would buy paycoins at $20, or we would use our resources to manage to $20. They both mean the same thing. We will do everything in our power to make the price $20. And that's what we are doing.”

Is that an accurate quote?

"No comment."

4) Are you being investigated by the SEC? If so, for what? 

Everyone operating in the crypto space is under inquiry, investigation, whatever the term of the day is.  We have no reason to believe we are any different. 

5) What do you think some of the biggest misunderstandings/untruths floating around about GAW and Paycoin are?

The concept that PayCoin would built 100% and launched as a massive decentralized network and version 1.0 coin on day 1.   This was never planned and has never happened with a coin.   Crypto's launch and take time to get the public running nodes and gain a decent autonomy from the creator.  That timeframe is the reason why things like prime controller bidding were not put into the coin and not planned for 6 months.   

"Test Node" coins.   The prime controller used on the live net to test the variable staking system was not a "test node" it was an actual prime controller.   Everything passed on the test net and then we moved that code over to a single prime node on the live net in coordination with our coin developers to ensure the fix worked correctly.  The coins from that node were eventually destroyed.


6) Can you reveal any upcoming partnerships? With Amazon or other retailers/merchants? Or if you can't reveal specific partnerships, can you talk about what GAW is doing to pursue partnerships?

As we have learned from our past we cannot discuss upcoming partnerships or name any partners.   We have a team who spends all day every day working on partnerships with retailers, crypto service providers and merchants to grow PayCoin adoption.

7) What are some POSITIVE things happening with Paycoin right now?

We are working on a revamped roadmap and a set of developers to get the coin development restarted and bring some new and existing features to life in the coin.



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On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 12:14 PM, John Caceres <jo...@btc.com> wrote:
Below are the questions from Gizmodo. Your help is appreciated.

Also, would like to talk about reporter that you put together paragraph on as well as Cyrus from Ars Technica.
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Feb 18John Caceres
I've added to what Jonah as provided which is not much, I'm in red (I'd like to talk about the "no comment" responses to understand why). Seems what we have here, per Jonah, makes good sense and is clear, even addressing the "destroying of coins." I still have to hear from Gizmodo, as I have not, yet, to reschedule given her burst pipes, etc.

1) There are claims that Paycoin reneged on a promise for a $20 floor, as I'm sure you know. I am looking for clarity here: Did anyone acting as a representative for GAW explicitly make this promise?

"No comment."

2) Can you offer insight about why this controversy happened- is it a misconception in the community? (I have read this post: https://blog.paybase.com/paycoin-and-the-20-base-an-overview/) but I am more interested in what GAW is doing *currently* to get the coin price up, and whether GAW still plans on fulfilling that goal.

The company is currently actively seeking merchant partners, working with a development team on a roadmap which will solidify the development of PayCoin as laid out in the whitepaper.  There are new stores and services coming online and being actively built which will increase the usability of PayCoin and we have not forgotten our core vision in developing PayCoin and our plan is to continue to realize that vision. 

3) This is what Josh is quoted as saying in an article on Coinbase:

“I always said two things. We would buy paycoins at $20, or we would use our resources to manage to $20. They both mean the same thing. We will do everything in our power to make the price $20. And that's what we are doing.”

Is that an accurate quote?

"No comment."

4) Are you being investigated by the SEC? If so, for what? 

Everyone operating in the crypto space is under inquiry, investigation, whatever the term of the day is.  We have no reason to believe we are any different and are happy to comply with SEC. 

5) What do you think some of the biggest misunderstandings/untruths floating around about GAW and Paycoin are?

The concept that PayCoin would built 100% and launched as a massive decentralized network and version 1.0 coin on day 1.   This was never planned and has never happened with a coin, ever. Cryptocurrencies launch and they take time to get the public running nodes and gain a decent autonomy from the creator. That timeframe is the reason why things like prime controller bidding were not put into the coin and not planned for 6 months. That said, we are on track in creating value for PayCoin.

With regard to "Test Node" coins. The prime controller used on the live net to test the variable staking system was not a "test node" it was an actual prime controller. Everything passed on the test net and then we moved that code over to a single prime node on the live net in coordination with our coin developers to ensure the fix worked correctly. The coins from that node were eventually destroyed.


6) Can you reveal any upcoming partnerships? With Amazon or other retailers/merchants? Or if you can't reveal specific partnerships, can you talk about what GAW is doing to pursue partnerships?

As we have learned from our past we cannot discuss upcoming partnerships or name any partners.   We have a team who spends all day every day working on partnerships with retailers, crypto service providers and merchants to grow PayCoin adoption.

7) What are some POSITIVE things happening with Paycoin right now?

We are working on a revamped roadmap and a set of developers to get the coin development restarted and bring some new and existing features to life in the coin.

John C. Caceres
Chief Marketing Officer
Business Technology for Cryptocurrency
34 East Dudley Town Road
Bloomfield, CT 06002
jo...@btc.com
917.882.0900 - Mobile
802.359.7569 - VT Office

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March 04, 2015, 02:26:13 AM
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lol josh trying to sell the forum https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!topic/ocf/z9cW6RJGDl0

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SEC investigation stuff https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!topic/ocf/17lXN1FDJ7E

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Due respect and following the legal advice, but isn't it an "investigation?" And that being the case, are we not misinforming of the situation, which may have negative impact in the world in which we live? People, including us, are splitting hairs between "inquiry vs. investigation."

This version speaks the truth of the scenario:

"Yes, there is now an investigation being conducted by the SEC. As such we can not comment on any active investigation. We are complying with all requests made the SEC and are cooperating and working with them."

Wouldn't this blend be a bit more "transparent:"

"The company is currently responding to an SEC [investigation], and is fully cooperating with the SEC.  At this time we have no further comment per company policy concerning ongoing matters of this nature."

I may be misunderstanding based on literal meaning of the word "inquiry."

noun, plural inquiries.
1.
a seeking or request for truth, information, or knowledge.
2.
an investigation, as into an incident:
a Congressional inquiry into the bribery charges.
3.
the act of inquiring or of seeking information by questioning;interrogation.
4.
a question; query.

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Dan Kelley asking for money upfront because of cash flow problems.  Says he is working on the SEC stuff.
https://archive.today/UVbvI

I agree with whoever said the older one seems likely to have better stuff.

If we archive the right stuff I think GAW can be finished tonight.
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That was my first thought when there was a supposed reply from "Rashib" made on a public group thingy instead of a direct Email to Homero. Smells wrong to me.

Doesn't it look like a dump of a bunch of Garza's emails? Why else the spam from various retailers, etc.? And if it was GAW putting it up there, I'm not sure I see why they would have included a bunch of emails about failure to pay bills. [Edit]: not to mention what look like reports on various networks associated with Stuart Fraser. E.g.: https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!topic/josh/n-4hIKtWfMM

Indeed .. I had tried to reach Josh indirectly through 2 friends ... both of their contacts appear in the email dump (from over a month ago).  Seems fairly complete.  Very interesting.

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Shit, why did all this have to happen at 1:30am in the UK.  Looks like I will have a lot to read when I wake up!
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Joe Mordica's lawyer gets in touch with GAW after Mordica's termination; claims he was terminated for refusing to engage in unethical conduct. (Nature of this conduct not specified.) https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/ocf/fTf4184FjrI
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Very interesting to read all these relating to the SEC investigation https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!searchin/ocf/sec|sort:date

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Omg it just gets better at every click.
All 15 prime controllers went to one single person
https://groups.google.com/a/geniusesatwork.com/forum/#!searchin/ocf/sec|sort:date/ocf/nqi4d7-ptLc/pxeVuHloXeUJ

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