GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)

[suchmoon]

I think you are describing Suchmoons line of thinking.  He is a master of misdirection and deception.   Use your brain and read his post about looking for the post.  It is a sarcastic reply by suchmoon because he knows he has manipulated the very archive he made.

Try https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://hashtalk.org

Or do you think I manipulated that too?

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[favdesu]

did I miss anything of importance or just some personal fights?

Is it worth to read the last ~5 pages?

[vertoe]

Maybe you guys need to think about that, I hope they look into Suchmoon and Companies actions on this thread and take appropriate action.  Josh is already fried, he has no hope of getting off (thank god), but the way suchmoon et al are hellbent on attacking and harassing people is uncalled for and is a crime of humanity.
 
Not to mention the numerous laws broken on this thread, I am certain Josh's lawyer will have a field day with that, I only hope they do not eliminate the evidence that was posted in an illegal way.

I will be happy to show legal precedence that shows that posting stolen emails is illegal and punishable by law.  I read the claims that the emails were obtained because good ol homero left his computer on, but that doesn't negate the fact that the emails were stolen.  If a person leaves their door open, it does not mean you can walk in and steal their shit.

[suchmoon]

did I miss anything of importance or just some personal fights?

Is it worth to read the last ~5 pages?

Not really. Here is me being a GAW fanboy:

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/in-stock-gridseed-usb-miners-189-95-plus-free-hosting-and-electricity.283675/page-10

That's pretty much the gist of it. Oh and I'm a bully so give me your lunch money.

[o0o0]

You are missing the point here.  There are a lot of people that are tired of their harassment and bullying.  I jumped in when I saw others attacking Suchmoon and Paul Revere today.  I think it was MakeBelieve and Wheellocks.  And I imagine there will be many more jump in when they read his bullshit and lies and see his blatant disregard for other people.

Well, go ahead. But if you want it to stick I suggest to do that in an appropriate section of the forum. Meta, or perhaps Scam Accusations if you think I scammed you. Otherwise your posts will likely be wiped out as off topic and you'll get even more butthurt.

Nice one, OK, the post I am making are in reference to the credibility of suchmoon.  We aim to show that he is not credible and that he has blatantly lied about his involvement the GAW

You mention that your aim is to show that he is not credible... I am now sure this is being done now in the run up to the court case in an attempt to mess with the evidence. Others in this topic need to be aware of this now. If you were actually serious about discrediting suchmoon you would be doing it in a separate topic and provide a link from here so that your topic focuses entirely on suchmoon. I'm not suggesting you are incorrect but you "are" focusing only on the paycoin element when you suggest both he and paul do this for a number of other people and services so your accusation should be its own topic and be on all of his posts not limited to just paycoin.

You are simply trying to muddy the waters for a jury to attempt to give reasonable doubt.

Start a new thread link to it from here if you are serious and continue it in there.

[kken01]

somehow i get the feeling that there are some old paycoin bagholders here that STILL think suchmoon and paul are the reason their precious shitcoin tanked. and not garza running a ponzi


i just looked at 'services' suchmoon has been critical of:
Paycoin (ponzi), BTCLend (incompetence, co-mingling funds, false promises), Scrypt.cc (ponzi) and StakeMiners (ponzi)
all scams. seems like a good track record so far?


i guess bitstone is the next huge scam building up (funnily enough forking ponzicoin. eeh i mean paycoin ) since this spam started when they got some limelight



edit:
sweet vertoe defending garza 

[o0o0]

Maybe you guys need to think about that, I hope they look into Suchmoon and Companies actions on this thread and take appropriate action.  Josh is already fried, he has no hope of getting off (thank god), but the way suchmoon et al are hellbent on attacking and harassing people is uncalled for and is a crime of humanity.
 
Not to mention the numerous laws broken on this thread, I am certain Josh's lawyer will have a field day with that, I only hope they do not eliminate the evidence that was posted in an illegal way.

I will be happy to show legal precedence that shows that posting stolen emails is illegal and punishable by law.  I read the claims that the emails were obtained because good ol homero left his computer on, but that doesn't negate the fact that the emails were stolen.  If a person leaves their door open, it does not mean you can walk in and steal their shit.

Left his computer on? Didn't the dickhead run mail through that google mail service and incorrectly set his permissions so it was public so I fail to see how that is illegally obtaining. Its like me putting pictures and documents up on my own ftp and setting permissions to public and not expecting someone to see it.

Josh was not a victim... he was incompetent and his investors were his victims. Don't detract from that.

[MakeBelieve]

You are missing the point here.  There are a lot of people that are tired of their harassment and bullying.  I jumped in when I saw others attacking Suchmoon and Paul Revere today.  I think it was MakeBelieve and Wheellocks.  And I imagine there will be many more jump in when they read his bullshit and lies and see his blatant disregard for other people.

Well, go ahead. But if you want it to stick I suggest to do that in an appropriate section of the forum. Meta, or perhaps Scam Accusations if you think I scammed you. Otherwise your posts will likely be wiped out as off topic and you'll get even more butthurt.

Nice one, OK, the post I am making are in reference to the credibility of suchmoon.  We aim to show that he is not credible and that he has blatantly lied about his involvement the GAW

You mention that your aim is to show that he is not credible... I am now sure this is being done now in the run up to the court case in an attempt to mess with the evidence. Others in this topic need to be aware of this now. If you were actually serious about discrediting suchmoon you would be doing it in a separate topic and provide a link from here so that your topic focuses entirely on suchmoon. I'm not suggesting you are incorrect but you "are" focusing only on the paycoin element when you suggest both he and paul do this for a number of other people and services so your accusation should be its own topic and be on all of his posts not limited to just paycoin.

You are simply trying to muddy the waters for a jury to attempt to give reasonable doubt.

Start a new thread link to it from here if you are serious and continue it in there.

Sorry, Suchmoon and Paul Reveres credibility is an issue on this thread.  Yes, they are asses on other threads.  None of that takes away the simple fact that they post on this thread and I want to raise concerns about their methods of obtaining information, the lies they state and the way they misdirect and misrepresent the facts.  If the courts see this, well sorry. 

I along with others are tired of them and their methods.  I see that others are starting to join the "Movement" that wheellock and I started earlier today.  I hope it continues and we become as strong as the "Anti GAW" crew.  If it happens to cause issues with the court then you can blame the ring leader.

btw- good stuff wheellock and vertoe

[Gleb Gamow]

^like i said crony capitalists!!! i bet he helped you profit wildly rite? >>> busted this is exactly what we were trying to prove that they stake users' coins and keep it in house<---this

Let's see.
Based on your "use" of english, I have to assume you're either an american or a moron. Maybe both.

BITCOIN-BAR aka Owsley Beats. finally we have a name!

owsleybeatsbigcartel here at BCT
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=125869;sa=showPosts


edit: or maybe not. this is someone who was involved with PYC tho and calls him self BB. lives in cali

cryyptc is the troll known as Owsley Beats, Big Baller, BBmmBB, and a thousand other names. I doubt he's related to BITCOIN-BAR who seems literate, has valid points, and a grasp of logic.

You will find that with this cryyptc troll your life improves immeasurably if you click 'ignore' and get on with your life. He may be agreeing with you in this thread but that is entirely coincidental.

Big Baller et al. is none other than BitJohn of Cryptsy. See my latest posts to get up to speed.

[vertoe]

You are missing the point here.  There are a lot of people that are tired of their harassment and bullying.  I jumped in when I saw others attacking Suchmoon and Paul Revere today.  I think it was MakeBelieve and Wheellocks.  And I imagine there will be many more jump in when they read his bullshit and lies and see his blatant disregard for other people.

Well, go ahead. But if you want it to stick I suggest to do that in an appropriate section of the forum. Meta, or perhaps Scam Accusations if you think I scammed you. Otherwise your posts will likely be wiped out as off topic and you'll get even more butthurt.

Nice one, OK, the post I am making are in reference to the credibility of suchmoon.  We aim to show that he is not credible and that he has blatantly lied about his involvement the GAW

You mention that your aim is to show that he is not credible... I am now sure this is being done now in the run up to the court case in an attempt to mess with the evidence. Others in this topic need to be aware of this now. If you were actually serious about discrediting suchmoon you would be doing it in a separate topic and provide a link from here so that your topic focuses entirely on suchmoon. I'm not suggesting you are incorrect but you "are" focusing only on the paycoin element when you suggest both he and paul do this for a number of other people and services so your accusation should be its own topic and be on all of his posts not limited to just paycoin.

You are simply trying to muddy the waters for a jury to attempt to give reasonable doubt.

Start a new thread link to it from here if you are serious and continue it in there.

Sorry, Suchmoon and Paul Reveres credibility is an issue on this thread.  Yes, they are asses on other threads.  None of that takes away the simple fact that they post on this thread and I want to raise concerns about their methods of obtaining information, the lies they state and the way they misdirect and misrepresent the facts.  If the courts see this, well sorry.  

I along with others are tired of them and their methods.  I see that others are starting to join the "Movement" that wheellock and I started earlier today.  I hope it continues and we become as strong as the "Anti GAW" crew.  If it happens to cause issues with the court then you can blame the ring leader.

btw- good stuff wheellock and vertoe

Thank you

[vertoe]

You keep repeating this as some sort of a fact. Do you have links/quotes/etc or is just one more thing that you will refuse to prove? What exactly was I part of and why is that making you so badly butthurt?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/josh-garza-address-growing-paycoin-paybase-scam-concerns-tnabc-miami/
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Ok, can you quote the specific part(s) that you have a problem with? I have a feeling that you probably didn't read the article.

are you denying that you were a gaw fanboy?

Yes, I'm denying that. I'm about as far from being a fanboy as one can possibly be.

Then a page or two later -

did I miss anything of importance or just some personal fights?

Is it worth to read the last ~5 pages?

Not really. Here is me being a GAW fanboy:

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/in-stock-gridseed-usb-miners-189-95-plus-free-hosting-and-electricity.283675/page-10

That's pretty much the gist of it. Oh and I'm a bully so give me your lunch money.

One page he is not a Gaw Fan and then 2 pages later when the proof was given he admits he was a Fan Boy... Caught in a lie bro

[kken01]

well that changed my mind! count me in the pro-garza movement. he must be totally innocent!   
and the courts are totally affected by posts in this thread  


jeez

[MakeBelieve]

well that changed my mind! count me in the pro-garza movement. he must be totally innocent!   
and the courts are totally affected by posts in this thread  


jeez

I am not Pro Gaw or Pro JG, I am anti-suchmoon and anti-Paul Revere.

[vertoe]

well that changed my mind! count me in the pro-garza movement. he must be totally innocent!   
and the courts are totally affected by posts in this thread   


jeez

I do not care about Garza.  I care about the crimes against humanity that Suchmoon and Paul Revere promote.  If you do to think that is true then read back through the 2000 pages of this thread and read about all the people they have harmed.  I am not talking about Josh or his brother etc,  I am talking about the people that were brought into this fiasco.  A lot of people have been unnecessarily harmed by their filth and with complete disregard for the well being of those peoples families.

Now, to keep this on topic, the integrity of paul revere and suchmoon are important here, they have lied and covered up the lies with more lies to make points.  So what is true and what is not?  I have doubts about a lot of stuff they have spewed on this thread and the validity of it should be questioned

[o0o0]

well that changed my mind! count me in the pro-garza movement. he must be totally innocent!    
and the courts are totally affected by posts in this thread  


jeez

I do not care about Garza.  I care about the crimes against humanity that Suchmoon and Paul Revere promote.  If you do to think that is true then read back through the 2000 pages of this thread and read about all the people they have harmed.  I am not talking about Josh or his brother etc,  I am talking about the people that were brought into this fiasco.  A lot of people have been unnecessarily harmed by their filth and with complete disregard for the well being of those peoples families.

Now, to keep this on topic, the integrity of paul revere and suchmoon are important here, they have lied and covered up the lies with more lies to make points.  So what is true and what is not?  I have doubts about a lot of stuff they have spewed on this thread and the validity of it should be questioned

Link the people that were harmed with this filth (I'm not sure what filth you are referring to btw) the sections that harmed them and how. As far as I am aware Josh Garza's paycoin and zencloud is what harmed those families out of money etc which caused issues. Whether Paul or Suchmoon or others posted or not is unimportant... the outcome still is that they lost money, life savings etc... unless you are stating that some posts in a forum was what caused paycoin to flop? Is that what you are indeed stating?

You also say they have lied and covered lies with lies... you've published one yes 1 paragraph... if you are to take your post as fact and truth then that constitutes but 1 lie. Where are the other ones and the lies that cover these up?

And yes validity is important and I still think you are off topic for this. The topic is GAW miners always make money exposing the paycoin scam. If you disagree that paycoin is a scam then yes this is the place to voice that. If you have a particular issue with the truth of a statement you combat that statement.

Simply stating we found 1 thing which we believe counters this argument does not mean that all comments they make can then be nulled out as lies as well. If that's the case then I sure hope you have never told a lie or misinformation in your life because that now means that what you state here must also be a lie right because you've been discredited?

Your counters here aren't on topic because they have "nothing" to do with paycoin you just said that yourself you don't care what happens to josh or paycoin or whatever you are going on about paul and suchmoons personal credibility.

This requires a topic completely on that unless you have particular stuff that counters their points... if so please post it.

And as to courts seeing things it won't matter anyway as they would be called as witnesses should they be required which I doubt because nobody cares about a forum comment when the lawsuit is about unregistered securities and scamming people.. unless of course paul and suchmoon somehow took money.

[sirazimuth]

well that changed my mind! count me in the pro-garza movement. he must be totally innocent!    
and the courts are totally affected by posts in this thread  


jeez

I do not care about Garza.  I care about the crimes against humanity that Suchmoon and Paul Revere promote.  If you do to think that is true then read back through the 2000 pages of this thread and read about all the people they have harmed.  I am not talking about Josh or his brother etc,  I am talking about the people that were brought into this fiasco.  A lot of people have been unnecessarily harmed by their filth and with complete disregard for the well being of those peoples families.

Now, to keep this on topic, the integrity of paul revere and suchmoon are important here, they have lied and covered up the lies with more lies to make points.  So what is true and what is not?  I have doubts about a lot of stuff they have spewed on this thread and the validity of it should be questioned

Coming from someone (myself) who has followed this thread and the whole garza paycoin scam fiasco from day one,
 you have no idea how ridiculous you sound. You dont like bullies? Grow a spine, ya frikkin crybaby.
 No ones forcing you to read this thread.

But please carry on .Your mindless rantings are quite entertaining.  your aka Fuckmoon thing is pretty childish too.

[Paul Revere]

well that changed my mind! count me in the pro-garza movement. he must be totally innocent!    
and the courts are totally affected by posts in this thread  


jeez

I do not care about Garza.  I care about the crimes against humanity that Suchmoon and Paul Revere promote.  If you do to think that is true then read back through the 2000 pages of this thread and read about all the people they have harmed.  I am not talking about Josh or his brother etc,  I am talking about the people that were brought into this fiasco.  A lot of people have been unnecessarily harmed by their filth and with complete disregard for the well being of those peoples families.

Now, to keep this on topic, the integrity of paul revere and suchmoon are important here, they have lied and covered up the lies with more lies to make points.  So what is true and what is not?  I have doubts about a lot of stuff they have spewed on this thread and the validity of it should be questioned

I especially like the part about "crimes against humanity". That is pure awesomesauce.



Please, by all means continue, ya fucking punk. Please show us how to trash an expensive purchased account. PLEASE.

[CryptoBuds]

Everyone was a 'fan boy' during the p&d's 

Yes, defend your fearless fudshit leader minion.

The difference here is that he claimed never to be one , and lied about it, and then started an entire hate thread to cover it all up.

LIES!!!!!

You are trying to start another altcoin? Yep, you sound like the person I want to give my BTC to. What's your address, I want 5000 of whatever you are selling. I'm gonna be rich!!

[Paul Revere]

Everyone was a 'fan boy' during the p&d's 

Yes, defend your fearless fudshit leader minion.

The difference here is that he claimed never to be one , and lied about it, and then started an entire hate thread to cover it all up.

LIES!!!!!

You are trying to start another altcoin? Yep, you sound like the person I want to give my BTC to. What's your address, I want 5000 of whatever you are selling. I'm gonna be rich!!

He is a Bitstone sockpuppet. It's a Paycoin clone, including the obvious scam part.

[Xian01]

I do not care about Garza.  I care about the crimes against humanity that Suchmoon and Paul Revere promote.

With your asinine rhetoric, you'd think they were involved in Yugoslavia or Kenya...

What is your interest in Paycoin that you're so ruffled with suchmoon and paul revere ?