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November 21, 2015, 12:32:50 AM
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closure

This sort of closure could have been achieved months ago by simply closing the ZenCloud page and never opening it again. What is it that makes paycoiners WAIT for someone to tell them what to do - I could never understand that.

Yeah true, but then what about the people (myself) included that paid upto $80 per 'immortal' hashstaker to just be left with nothing? We all bought .pngs, he ended up selling all the miners, you all know the story. The reason the devs kept everything going was to at least continue payouts whilst some sort of ongoing strategy could be put in place.

The people in charge now are really trying to get this all turned around, to forget about Garza and move on, to try to give the community some sort of value, new innovations and so on, it is only the right thing to do.

Ok so some ppl have been saying / complaining about what is the point et cetera of the MicroPrimes and so on so I replied a few days ago on https://www.paycointalk.org/topic/973/paycoin-v0-3-3-0-has-been-released-mandatory-update - as I said there, I think something is better than nothing and for this I am truly grateful to those involved. And no, I am not taking part in GAWsuit, why not? Because I just wanna move on.

The funny thing is that many old faces have now come back, quite recently, maybe it is because of the MicroPrimes, maybe the XPYBiTS programme, earlier in this thread it says about the 'Gawtards' (bit old now) being an obsessed community, that is true but obsession comes  in many flavours, a healthy obsession is a good thing, and can be beneficial too.

You do realise that many of the devs were working with Garza in some capacity right? At the time you all loved Garza and he could do no wrong and told no lie... All that has changed are the figureheads and to believe them on what they say is the same as believing Garza... its history repeating. Matlack was and still is a piece of trash.

Even though Garza is gone there are many side scams that he is running and he likely still has a large controlling stash of paycoins so can manipulate it still at will. The coin is forever screwed as you can't completely remove his involvement short of wiping the entire blockchain and starting again.

The devs are a joke and they are only devs because they say they are. The community has no idea of what knowledge is required to be a decent dev so they follow with blind faith/belief. What have the devs actually achieved in over 5 months? They swapped some keys out and added some other keys. Paycoin still has no features or anything that makes it differ from other staking coins except a changed rate... it forks all the time and people lose coins.

If you want to help your community close that shitty time of their lives i'd be working to help them divest portions into other stake coins that are actually not scams. No good can come from paycoin long term. It is and will always be a low value crappy crypto coin with continuous chain forks and issues. No decent dev with any sort of credibility would help out and ruin their name by associating with it.
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November 21, 2015, 12:50:03 AM
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Did Homero pig steal the debit card money?

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November 21, 2015, 01:25:36 AM
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closure

This sort of closure could have been achieved months ago by simply closing the ZenCloud page and never opening it again. What is it that makes paycoiners WAIT for someone to tell them what to do - I could never understand that.

Yeah true, but then what about the people (myself) included that paid upto $80 per 'immortal' hashstaker to just be left with nothing? We all bought .pngs, he ended up selling all the miners, you all know the story. The reason the devs kept everything going was to at least continue payouts whilst some sort of ongoing strategy could be put in place.

The people in charge now are really trying to get this all turned around, to forget about Garza and move on, to try to give the community some sort of value, new innovations and so on, it is only the right thing to do.

Ok so some ppl have been saying / complaining about what is the point et cetera of the MicroPrimes and so on so I replied a few days ago on https://www.paycointalk.org/topic/973/paycoin-v0-3-3-0-has-been-released-mandatory-update - as I said there, I think something is better than nothing and for this I am truly grateful to those involved. And no, I am not taking part in GAWsuit, why not? Because I just wanna move on.

The funny thing is that many old faces have now come back, quite recently, maybe it is because of the MicroPrimes, maybe the XPYBiTS programme, earlier in this thread it says about the 'Gawtards' (bit old now) being an obsessed community, that is true but obsession comes  in many flavours, a healthy obsession is a good thing, and can be beneficial too.

And how much of that $80 did you get back via those payouts? I find it hard to see any "value" in anything that transpired after Garza "officially" left the scene.

Let's say someone invested $100k in Paycoin at $4. That investment is now worth $1000 if that. Is it really possible that someone who had $100k to begin with wouldn't have been able to make $1000 IRL in the last six months? Walking away and getting a part-time job at Micky D's - or raising chickens in your backyard -  would have accomplished that, and likely with less effort than trying to keep up with this whole shitshow.

I think this is a very good example of when "something" is actually worse than "nothing", when that "something" is false hope and waste of time at best, and likely another scam/loss down the road like we've already seen with BTCLend.

Did Homero pig steal the debit card money?

I believe he did. I'm not aware of any refunds and even the website is down so he can't claim to have delivered PNGs either.
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November 21, 2015, 04:37:35 AM
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closure

This sort of closure could have been achieved months ago by simply closing the ZenCloud page and never opening it again. What is it that makes paycoiners WAIT for someone to tell them what to do - I could never understand that.

Yeah true, but then what about the people (myself) included that paid upto $80 per 'immortal' hashstaker to just be left with nothing? We all bought .pngs, he ended up selling all the miners, you all know the story. The reason the devs kept everything going was to at least continue payouts whilst some sort of ongoing strategy could be put in place.

The people in charge now are really trying to get this all turned around, to forget about Garza and move on, to try to give the community some sort of value, new innovations and so on, it is only the right thing to do.

Ok so some ppl have been saying / complaining about what is the point et cetera of the MicroPrimes and so on so I replied a few days ago on https://www.paycointalk.org/topic/973/paycoin-v0-3-3-0-has-been-released-mandatory-update - as I said there, I think something is better than nothing and for this I am truly grateful to those involved. And no, I am not taking part in GAWsuit, why not? Because I just wanna move on.

The funny thing is that many old faces have now come back, quite recently, maybe it is because of the MicroPrimes, maybe the XPYBiTS programme, earlier in this thread it says about the 'Gawtards' (bit old now) being an obsessed community, that is true but obsession comes  in many flavours, a healthy obsession is a good thing, and can be beneficial too.

You still don't get it.

The only reason there was any value to this coin was because a liar told you he would give you $20 per coin. That never happened, the liar i now gone, and the people who were in the best position to call him out on his lies are now throwing pennies at you when you could have and should have walked away forever ago. The coin is absolutely useless, it barely works at all, never mind how it's supposed to work, and the only reason there is any value i because of liars and scumbags lied to people and manipulated the price to get you to give them money, and now his scumbag friends are doing the same again.
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November 21, 2015, 09:15:55 AM
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I thank you all for listening and yeah, I have been massively bummed like many many others, I wish I had saved the chats with Garza too. What a liar he turned out to be, perpetrating to be a good honest Christian, hmmn. Still, that's where I am at. It's true I could have sold out at $14, now my coins are worth... pennies, there is still hope and a community in the beast yet.. I have read this thread from day one and just wanted to say hi, I believe in the truth and helping others, whatever the capacity. If you rise above and hide nothing then what can go wrong? We all have values and that's what makes us... us  Grin

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I thank you all for listening and yeah, I have been massively bummed like many many others, I wish I had saved the chats with Garza too. What a liar he turned out to be, perpetrating to be a good honest Christian, hmmn. Still, that's where I am at. It's true I could have sold out at $14, now my coins are worth... pennies, there is still hope and a community in the beast yet.. I have read this thread from day one and just wanted to say hi, I believe in the truth and helping others, whatever the capacity. If you rise above and hide nothing then what can go wrong? We all have values and that's what makes us... us  Grin

There's as much hope as in any other shit coin. Sell now and get some pennies, and look for better investments or keep on wasting your time and money.

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November 21, 2015, 02:52:03 PM
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well then,looks like the thread has a new chew toy, don't be too rough now...

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November 21, 2015, 02:54:03 PM
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I thank you all for listening and yeah, I have been massively bummed like many many others, I wish I had saved the chats with Garza too. What a liar he turned out to be, perpetrating to be a good honest Christian, hmmn. Still, that's where I am at. It's true I could have sold out at $14, now my coins are worth... pennies, there is still hope and a community in the beast yet.. I have read this thread from day one and just wanted to say hi, I believe in the truth and helping others, whatever the capacity. If you rise above and hide nothing then what can go wrong? We all have values and that's what makes us... us  Grin

Your hope and values can't beat out the scumbag nature of the current "leaders" and people who have been bending you over for a year now.
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November 21, 2015, 03:22:43 PM
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I thank you all for listening and yeah, I have been massively bummed like many many others, I wish I had saved the chats with Garza too. What a liar he turned out to be, perpetrating to be a good honest Christian, hmmn. Still, that's where I am at. It's true I could have sold out at $14, now my coins are worth... pennies, there is still hope and a community in the beast yet.. I have read this thread from day one and just wanted to say hi, I believe in the truth and helping others, whatever the capacity. If you rise above and hide nothing then what can go wrong? We all have values and that's what makes us... us  Grin

Boo Fucking Hoo.  Cry  Cry  Cry Anyone with a lick of common sense and/or a shred of decency bailed from the Paycoin fraud ship a LONG time ago, and yet you spend all day playing kissy face with the very criminals who implemented, and still are implementing, the GAW/Paycoin fraud scheme. You know what? You are one of the stupid assholes who deserved to be ripped off. Fuck you and your endless, mindless shilling for a blatant and obvious fraud scheme which helped others get ripped off, and especially Fuck You for coming here fishing for sympathy and acting like you are not part of the current pack of scum running the Paycoin scam.

P.S: Is it true that you now own a "Prime Controller"?

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November 21, 2015, 04:47:06 PM
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I thank you all for listening and yeah, I have been massively bummed like many many others, I wish I had saved the chats with Garza too. What a liar he turned out to be, perpetrating to be a good honest Christian, hmmn. Still, that's where I am at. It's true I could have sold out at $14, now my coins are worth... pennies, there is still hope and a community in the beast yet.. I have read this thread from day one and just wanted to say hi, I believe in the truth and helping others, whatever the capacity. If you rise above and hide nothing then what can go wrong? We all have values and that's what makes us... us  Grin

Well guess what, Krumz??

We have been following the HashTalk & Paycointalk shenanigans too, & we are all aware of your very active support of the whole mess.

Don't come here & try to make a positive spin on any of this.

More about your disgraced hero Homero Josh Garza c/o Lexology:

http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=70137edf-80a2-4352-bbf8-8fff266f3016
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Hahahahaaaa SUPER!

You think I have come here for sympathy, that's AMAZEBALLS, nah, I saw this long ass thread was getting dry, I wanted to come say hi, maybe play a little with you lot, I have not come to fight or calls names either, just make a presence. Anyhoo, hi Paul; pleased to finally have make your acquaintance - Can I just saw I have always admired your eloquent language skills Wink Also Paul, I hope you don't mind me being here, I like people, I like you.

Oh and if anyone wants to bend me over some more, yeah why not, I am game.

Of course I saw the muddled details before about some subject matter (I did not offer correlation or corrections back then as when you guys get your teeth into something it is very funny to sit back and watch all get in a tizz wazz - whether right or wrong) amongst some other stuff including said ownership of Prime Controllers, and yeah I own one, y'all were right, wanna see it? I have over HALF A MILLION coins, how about that eh !?

#6 that's me ! https://testnet.paycoin.com/richlist

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November 21, 2015, 04:57:23 PM
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I thank you all for listening and yeah, I have been massively bummed like many many others, I wish I had saved the chats with Garza too. What a liar he turned out to be, perpetrating to be a good honest Christian, hmmn. Still, that's where I am at. It's true I could have sold out at $14, now my coins are worth... pennies, there is still hope and a community in the beast yet.. I have read this thread from day one and just wanted to say hi, I believe in the truth and helping others, whatever the capacity. If you rise above and hide nothing then what can go wrong? We all have values and that's what makes us... us  Grin

Well guess what, Krumz??

We have been following the HashTalk & Paycointalk shenanigans too, & we are all aware of your very active support of the whole mess.

Don't come here & try to make a positive spin on any of this.

More about your disgraced hero Homero Josh Garza c/o Lexology:

http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=70137edf-80a2-4352-bbf8-8fff266f3016

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That's a cute kitty.

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Paycoin is just another scam coin for Garza to steal the people's money (as XPY'S slogan is "The People's Money") All failed attempts to make a $20 crypto currency has made many investors (including me) lose a ton of money, because it was all hype. I'm so glad I'm out of this scheme and never coming back unless there would be a total remake of the coin with better innovation. Until now, I will stick to Peercoin which is better.  Smiley

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November 21, 2015, 07:19:49 PM
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Paycoin is just another scam coin for Garza to steal the people's money (as XPY'S slogan is "The People's Money") All failed attempts to make a $20 crypto currency has made many investors (including me) lose a ton of money, because it was all hype. I'm so glad I'm out of this scheme and never coming back unless there would be a total remake of the coin with better innovation. Until now, I will stick to Peercoin which is better.  Smiley

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oh jesus. this guy

do you remember what you were passively (and possibly actively...) promoting just some months ago?
i think they called you a regional representative publicly...... do not dangle your self in too many investigations at the same time *sigh*
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I am getting the feeling I am not welcome here, that's a bit saddening really, all I wanna do is take part in the chat, I mean I have a right to yes?


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I am getting the feeling I am not welcome here, that's a bit saddening really, all I wanna do is take part in the chat, I mean I have a right to yes?

Of course you have a right to. Just as others have a right to chide you for your past shilling for that scamcoin. I of course am assuming that you are krumz from paycointalk? Either put on your big boy pants and deal, or run off with your tail between your legs. Makes no difference to me.

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I am getting the feeling I am not welcome here, that's a bit saddening really, all I wanna do is take part in the chat, I mean I have a right to yes?

Everyone's welcome here unless they blatantly troll off topic. I think you're mostly on topic. Does that guarantee that other posters will agree with you? No. There is no "rights" to anything here other than to make a post.

With that out of the way, you haven't really addressed most of the counterarguments to your statements. Why don't you "chat" about that and not some meta-feeling-not-welcome angle.
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Paycoin is just another scam coin for Garza to steal the people's money (as XPY'S slogan is "The People's Money") All failed attempts to make a $20 crypto currency has made many investors (including me) lose a ton of money, because it was all hype. I'm so glad I'm out of this scheme and never coming back unless there would be a total remake of the coin with better innovation. Until now, I will stick to Peercoin which is better.  Smiley

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Oh really? For what?

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