Bitcoinsummoner
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February 16, 2017, 05:04:22 PM |
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Already chated the support but they said that Its a card problem. that is why i change my plan to use other card that acceptable by bing.. Bow its work fine.. do you think wirex also work on amazon aws?
which one are you using for bing then? Have you tried amazon aws yet? The only way to check is to try.. Not yet to try it in aws since i have still aws account.. but just heard in our group before they are using wirex and it works fine also in youtube just found few tutorial using wirex.. but i dont know if its working right now.. because i heard some who uses this card will be suspended.. I just heard it maybe in our group..
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eduBTC
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February 16, 2017, 05:04:47 PM |
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i keep an eye on this service but as for me, the 3-5% you say for loading is very many to loose one the way. better withdrawal to bank at 0.09€ commission that i have from the exchange ... of course this have some negatives also but not 3-5% !!! Go for spectrocoin or xapo, they only charge 1.5-2% what's with all the hype about 5%?? where is it coming from? someone shouted on the corner, now everybody spreading the rumour?.. ok, now you charge 4% 943.9EUR/982.89EUR = 96% your price is 943.9EUR and market price is 982.89 EUR. So it is just in the middle of 3-5%
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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February 16, 2017, 05:14:19 PM |
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ecoin is scam,,, you are creating a lot of noise, that's for sure. But the core of the problem is that your card was blocked by the bank on suspicion of fraud, so, it's a big question where the scam is. Have you provided all the documents requested by support to get your account unblocked?
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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February 16, 2017, 05:19:18 PM |
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i keep an eye on this service but as for me, the 3-5% you say for loading is very many to loose one the way. better withdrawal to bank at 0.09€ commission that i have from the exchange ... of course this have some negatives also but not 3-5% !!! Go for spectrocoin or xapo, they only charge 1.5-2% what's with all the hype about 5%?? where is it coming from? someone shouted on the corner, now everybody spreading the rumour?.. ok, now you charge 4% 943.9EUR/982.89EUR = 96% your price is 943.9EUR and market price is 982.89 EUR. So it is just in the middle of 3-5% where is the "market price" coming from?
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February 16, 2017, 05:20:16 PM |
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Hope that it work's and hope that all of the country would accept it, So we could use our bitcoin even if we are not withdrawing it in fiat.
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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February 16, 2017, 05:20:45 PM |
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Not yet to try it in aws since i have still aws account.. but just heard in our group before they are using wirex and it works fine also in youtube just found few tutorial using wirex.. but i dont know if its working right now.. because i heard some who uses this card will be suspended.. I just heard it maybe in our group..
would appreciate if you could post here how it went - curious to know..
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February 16, 2017, 05:45:33 PM |
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please check Ticket 58246
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eduBTC
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February 16, 2017, 05:54:24 PM |
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i keep an eye on this service but as for me, the 3-5% you say for loading is very many to loose one the way. better withdrawal to bank at 0.09€ commission that i have from the exchange ... of course this have some negatives also but not 3-5% !!! Go for spectrocoin or xapo, they only charge 1.5-2% what's with all the hype about 5%?? where is it coming from? someone shouted on the corner, now everybody spreading the rumour?.. ok, now you charge 4% 943.9EUR/982.89EUR = 96% your price is 943.9EUR and market price is 982.89 EUR. So it is just in the middle of 3-5% where is the "market price" coming from? Kraken, Bitstamp, Coinbase and itBit
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bitatomic
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February 16, 2017, 06:34:15 PM |
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Once again some proof for people of e-coin/wirex who still claim there are no fees when loading the card and that the exchange rate is just a coincidence. Google rate: https://i.imgur.com/iKONyd1.jpg 23.27 EUR Preev rate: https://i.imgur.com/QjdENLV.jpg 23.44 EUR xe.com rate: https://i.imgur.com/FgToLJk.jpg 23.29 EUR Amount I get on my card 22.23 EUR. If we take the lowest exchange rate which is the google rate here. 22.23/23.27=0.955 so your fee is around 4.5%. So I will still stand by my claim that your fees are 3-5% when loading the card and you can still say that is not the fact but the facts are here and the math does not lie. As ex-customer I can confirm these guys are charging ~5% or sometimes even more. For that reason I moved to other services long time ago.. What you guys are using other than Wirex/e-coin ? I tried couple of services and all are better than this.
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Wirex
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February 16, 2017, 08:56:03 PM |
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The last period i become very frustrated about the service of Wirex/Ecoin. When i start using the card in the beginning it was really making my life easier. But at the moment its very very very frustrating!
Few weeks back i lost my card. I paid for express and 2 weeks later still no card.. I provided a alternative delivery adress and it was still shipped to my cardholders adress. After 2 weeks finally got my card.. Had still funds left on the old card, send a support ticket to migrate the funds from the old to the new one.. after 1 week still no response.
I tried to load my card, 200 euro dissapeared.. Again a new support ticket.. No response. Today i loaded 50 euro and 2250 euro. The 50 euro came and guess what? The 2250 euro totally disappeared!
At the moment 2250+1000+200 "gone".
Its very frustrating because the reason im using bitcoin and a debitcard is to get my hands faster as a regular banktransfer, but now it take much longer. Im really consider to jump to another debitcard. Maybe its a idea to start with phonesupport? Normally im a loyal customer, but the service is really really bad! For the fees we all pay you guys can do better!
Sorry for the inconvenience. If you already wrote to support, please give me your support ticket number, and I might be able to speed thing up a bit
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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February 16, 2017, 09:45:42 PM |
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Kraken, Bitstamp, Coinbase and itBit
the rates can be quite different between the exchanges you are mentioning, as well as others. Especially at the times of high volatility (which is effectively NOW and in the last several months). At any given time, the rate we are getting may be worse than any of the sources you mention, hence the difference. We are not charging 5% (or more, as some particularly smart and loud voices are stating here). No one seems to be shouting about the much better than market buy bitcoin rate that we are offering, by the way. Why could that be? Always easier to be negative, isn't it?
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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February 16, 2017, 09:47:10 PM |
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As ex-customer I can confirm these guys are charging ~5% or sometimes even more. For that reason I moved to other services long time ago..
What you guys are using other than Wirex/e-coin ?
I tried couple of services and all are better than this.
now tell me you are not getting paid for this post - 1st one ever and simply jumping on the topic...
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Wirex
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February 16, 2017, 10:00:08 PM |
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Once again some proof for people of e-coin/wirex who still claim there are no fees when loading the card and that the exchange rate is just a coincidence. Google rate: https://i.imgur.com/iKONyd1.jpg 23.27 EUR Preev rate: https://i.imgur.com/QjdENLV.jpg 23.44 EUR xe.com rate: https://i.imgur.com/FgToLJk.jpg 23.29 EUR Amount I get on my card 22.23 EUR. If we take the lowest exchange rate which is the google rate here. 22.23/23.27=0.955 so your fee is around 4.5%. So I will still stand by my claim that your fees are 3-5% when loading the card and you can still say that is not the fact but the facts are here and the math does not lie. As ex-customer I can confirm these guys are charging ~5% or sometimes even more. For that reason I moved to other services long time ago.. What you guys are using other than Wirex/e-coin ? I tried couple of services and all are better than this. This difference you see is normal. On Wirex, there are two exchange rates: One for buying bitcoins and one for loading the card. The "Buy Bitcoin" rate is higher than one for "Load Card". But other than that, What you see is what you get. There are no fees for loading your card or Buying Bitcoins in Wirex / E-Coin. To verify this, please go to the website www.blockchain.info and search the Bitcoin Address number Wirex gave you to deposit your bitcoins on the right corner search panel. Then, compare the amount of bitcoins you sent to this address with the amount you received on Wirex. It should be practically the same. However, I supposed this is just how people is. Wirex have been around for 3 years already, and developed the service way further than any other bitcoin debit card service. Yes, like any service growing fast and offering new features all the time, there are issues, but none of the issues of any user is left unresolved.
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eduBTC
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February 16, 2017, 10:30:40 PM |
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Kraken, Bitstamp, Coinbase and itBit
the rates can be quite different between the exchanges you are mentioning, as well as others. Especially at the times of high volatility (which is effectively NOW and in the last several months). At any given time, the rate we are getting may be worse than any of the sources you mention, hence the difference. We are not charging 5% (or more, as some particularly smart and loud voices are stating here). No one seems to be shouting about the much better than market buy bitcoin rate that we are offering, by the way. Why could that be? Always easier to be negative, isn't it? So how come other bitcoin debit card providers are offering way better exchange rate (closer to bitstamp exchange rate)? Are they making loss or what? I think you are just looking for an excuse for charging 4-5% whiles others charge 1.5%
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February 16, 2017, 10:37:21 PM |
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Once again some proof for people of e-coin/wirex who still claim there are no fees when loading the card and that the exchange rate is just a coincidence. Google rate: https://i.imgur.com/iKONyd1.jpg 23.27 EUR Preev rate: https://i.imgur.com/QjdENLV.jpg 23.44 EUR xe.com rate: https://i.imgur.com/FgToLJk.jpg 23.29 EUR Amount I get on my card 22.23 EUR. If we take the lowest exchange rate which is the google rate here. 22.23/23.27=0.955 so your fee is around 4.5%. So I will still stand by my claim that your fees are 3-5% when loading the card and you can still say that is not the fact but the facts are here and the math does not lie. As ex-customer I can confirm these guys are charging ~5% or sometimes even more. For that reason I moved to other services long time ago.. What you guys are using other than Wirex/e-coin ? I tried couple of services and all are better than this. This difference you see is normal. On Wirex, there are two exchange rates: One for buying bitcoins and one for loading the card. The "Buy Bitcoin" rate is higher than one for "Load Card". But other than that, What you see is what you get. There are no fees for loading your card or Buying Bitcoins in Wirex / E-Coin. To verify this, please go to the website www.blockchain.info and search the Bitcoin Address number Wirex gave you to deposit your bitcoins on the right corner search panel. Then, compare the amount of bitcoins you sent to this address with the amount you received on Wirex. It should be practically the same. However, I supposed this is just how people is. Wirex have been around for 3 years already, and developed the service way further than any other bitcoin debit card service. Yes, like any service growing fast and offering new features all the time, there are issues, but none of the issues of any user is left unresolved. Funny how you post irrelevant stuff and ignore the fact - you charge a COSMIC FEES of ~5% or more to sell bitcoin and load card. Well I used other services and I can tell you 100% that your service is NOT better in any way. You just charge more than others. So, I suggest to all to think before ordering this card , because it will cost a lot to load it. Also the card itself costs more than on other providers... I do not want to promote any particular service, but I think users in this community have to have a FAIR price for services!
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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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February 16, 2017, 11:33:24 PM |
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So how come other bitcoin debit card providers are offering way better exchange rate (closer to bitstamp exchange rate)? Are they making loss or what? I think you are just looking for an excuse for charging 4-5% whiles others charge 1.5%
@eduBTC, @bitatomic, we DO NOT charge 4-5%, full stop. Can't show you all the whole business model inside obviously, but this a fact - we simply don't. You are grossly overestimating the difference of our sell btc rate from the "market rate" and underestimating "others". It's a competitive market, and everyone is about the same in terms of costs/fees, give or take a penny. You are certainly free to use any service you like, but please, do not give your assumptions out as facts.
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February 17, 2017, 08:27:14 AM |
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I wouldn't suggest this service, when it work it works great and smooth. But everytime I need to withdraw my coins for make a purchase I get errors and I have to wait 4 hours or even more to it get fixed. Here is some error: https://i.gyazo.com/d4fe6ce8f172b2f377aa413c86d7e111.pngAnother error I had is that I withdrawn an amount and it was pending for 48 hours until you seen my ticket and fixed it. Also I'd like to say that the support is very slow and sometimes even unhelpful. Now I'm again waiting to you fix the error for withdrawing the coins, sent tickets but nothing yet. I'd like to leave a better review, but this is my experience with e-coin for the last 2 months, errors, and bugs, and no solutions. And the worst thing is the bugs are always the same and you still don't fix them. I hope you can improve this.
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bitatomic
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February 17, 2017, 08:46:56 AM |
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So how come other bitcoin debit card providers are offering way better exchange rate (closer to bitstamp exchange rate)? Are they making loss or what? I think you are just looking for an excuse for charging 4-5% whiles others charge 1.5%
@eduBTC, @bitatomic, we DO NOT charge 4-5%, full stop. Can't show you all the whole business model inside obviously, but this a fact - we simply don't. You are grossly overestimating the difference of our sell btc rate from the "market rate" and underestimating "others". It's a competitive market, and everyone is about the same in terms of costs/fees, give or take a penny. You are certainly free to use any service you like, but please, do not give your assumptions out as facts. It's simply untrue. Why you do not want to admit you charge ~5%? Just talking about mystic "business model" and try to hide the fact that you charge 5%
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February 17, 2017, 10:17:42 AM |
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i keep an eye on this service but as for me, the 3-5% you say for loading is very many to loose one the way. better withdrawal to bank at 0.09€ commission that i have from the exchange ... of course this have some negatives also but not 3-5% !!! Go for spectrocoin or xapo, they only charge 1.5-2% what's with all the hype about 5%?? where is it coming from? someone shouted on the corner, now everybody spreading the rumour?.. So how much is it? i don't know, i read the post about 3%-5%. is this right or wrong? Can you name us the % that is this service working? We not need a hype how you say, i prefer facts and i thought this user said that from experience... wait for your reply
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