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gosha@e-coin (OP)
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August 12, 2015, 03:10:40 PM
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Wouhouuu ! I love E-Coin, definitely Smiley Card unlocked in no time, just used it and works flawlessly ! Big vouch !

many thanks for your kind words!

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August 12, 2015, 06:37:44 PM
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I personally don't see a need to use this card myself. There's a coffee shop that has a bitcoin ATM not too far away from my house. I can also use one of the many face-to-face exchanges in my city to convert crypto to cash. Considering the other posts in this thread, I wouldn't want to trust this companny with my money anyway.

Signatures? How about learning a skill... I don't care either way. Everybody has to make a living somehow.
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August 12, 2015, 09:25:39 PM
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I personally don't see a need to use this card myself. There's a coffee shop that has a bitcoin ATM not too far away from my house. I can also use one of the many face-to-face exchanges in my city to convert crypto to cash. Considering the other posts in this thread, I wouldn't want to trust this companny with my money anyway.

Thank you for your comments.
Everyone is different. Not everyone has a bitcoin ATM around the corner. Plus, the fees at bitcoin ATM will be several times higher. Face-to-face is a good way, but how much time do you need to spend from the moment you decide to make an exchange until you have the dollars in your hand? Probably more than a few seconds.

This is an open forum, and negative posts will always exist. The human nature is to pick out one negative sentence out of a hundred positive ones, not much we can do about human nature, but there is surely a benefit to open discussion. If you read more posts, you will see that positives heavily outweigh the negatives.

If you have any valid reasons not to trust "this company", not just assumptions, please, share them here

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August 13, 2015, 03:23:06 AM
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If you have any valid reasons not to trust "this company", not just assumptions, please, share them here

Im a satisfied customer that thinks that the positives of your service heavily outnumber the negatives, but since you want people to share reasons to not trust your company and are willing to discuss them:

Why is your site so secretive, lacking real contact info like addresses and telephones, and details of the parties and methods involved in order to offer your service? Why dont you explain how it works? Why dont you name mychoice or any other partners involved? Especially since mychoice is a known and trustworthy bank/card issuer that partners with other similar services.

Like I wrote on an earlier post, If I didnt read and knew about people who had ordered cards and succesfuly used them, I would probably think that your site was a scam. Im probably not the only one who gets that impression from your site. Why dont you fix this, or explain the reasons that make you not disclose this info?
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August 13, 2015, 02:12:20 PM
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If you have any valid reasons not to trust "this company", not just assumptions, please, share them here

Im a satisfied customer that thinks that the positives of your service heavily outnumber the negatives, but since you want people to share reasons to not trust your company and are willing to discuss them:

Why is your site so secretive, lacking real contact info like addresses and telephones, and details of the parties and methods involved in order to offer your service? Why dont you explain how it works? Why dont you name mychoice or any other partners involved? Especially since mychoice is a known and trustworthy bank/card issuer that partners with other similar services.

Like I wrote on an earlier post, If I didnt read and knew about people who had ordered cards and succesfuly used them, I would probably think that your site was a scam. Im probably not the only one who gets that impression from your site. Why dont you fix this, or explain the reasons that make you not disclose this info?

thank you for your comments - will analyse and try to action upon them.

In brief:
- we only provide support via e-mail, and the e-mail, and there is a contact form and support@e-coin e-mails openly available on the website. It would be very hard, if possible at all, to deal with 90% of the requests we get via telephone, hence, no telephone numbers provided.
- MyChoice (WaveCrest Holdings) is mentioned in the Ts&Cs when you are ordering the card. Maybe we should advertise it more, not sure
- Other partners, such as BitGo is openly advertised on the home page and in the "Partners" section
- What do you mean by explaining how it works? A better description of the service than the one available?

Would really appreciate your inputs..

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This is good for Bitcoin but the site is cheap and look scammy, I wouldn't trust my money in this kind of cheap kid web site domain.

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August 13, 2015, 04:25:51 PM
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Any non 'Newbie' accounts using this card?

I've noticed almost all of these internation conversion Cards do not accept people form the USA.

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This is good for Bitcoin but the site is cheap and look scammy, I wouldn't trust my money in this kind of cheap kid web site domain.

any good reason for such statement? Have you tried the service?

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August 13, 2015, 07:55:48 PM
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Any non 'Newbie' accounts using this card?

I've noticed almost all of these internation conversion Cards do not accept people form the USA.


There are plenty of long-time users - although the thread is getting quite long to navigate.

Unfortunately, cannot ship cards to the USA for the time being, but working on it...

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August 13, 2015, 08:00:08 PM
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This is good for Bitcoin but the site is cheap and look scammy, I wouldn't trust my money in this kind of cheap kid web site domain.

any good reason for such statement? Have you tried the service?
I was looking for bitcoin debit card today I check this thread and now applying for card hope this will work for me
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This is good for Bitcoin but the site is cheap and look scammy, I wouldn't trust my money in this kind of cheap kid web site domain.

any good reason for such statement? Have you tried the service?
I was looking for bitcoin debit card today I check this thread and now applying for card hope this will work for me

Thank you very much.
Hope you will get it soon and test and see for yourself that it works as quickly and easily as promised.

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August 13, 2015, 08:07:47 PM
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Is there a problem with issuing cards to the USA?

Sorry but I don't trust anything 'newbie' accounts say about services on this forum due to the HUGE number of scams going on.
Only full or long standing members can be trusted here. Even then those accounts can be bought so still have to tread lightly.

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August 13, 2015, 08:16:21 PM
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This is good for Bitcoin but the site is cheap and look scammy, I wouldn't trust my money in this kind of cheap kid web site domain.

any good reason for such statement? Have you tried the service?
I was looking for bitcoin debit card today I check this thread and now applying for card hope this will work for me

Thank you very much.
Hope you will get it soon and test and see for yourself that it works as quickly and easily as promised.
I am very sad because my country name is not in list its mean I cannot apply for this card am I right ?
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In brief:
- we only provide support via e-mail, and the e-mail, and there is a contact form and support@e-coin e-mails openly available on the website. It would be very hard, if possible at all, to deal with 90% of the requests we get via telephone, hence, no telephone numbers provided.
- MyChoice (WaveCrest Holdings) is mentioned in the Ts&Cs when you are ordering the card. Maybe we should advertise it more, not sure
- Other partners, such as BitGo is openly advertised on the home page and in the "Partners" section
- What do you mean by explaining how it works? A better description of the service than the one available?

Would really appreciate your inputs..

I understand your choice to not include phone support, indeed it would probably be chaotic. You could perhaps do it with a high charge line, in addition to the free email support though.

Im talking about a landline, an address, something real that people can get in contact with your company, not for everyday support.

I do understand its easy to run the whole site/services from a server on a data center and that there is no need for office space, but you are dealing with money, and people will always be suspicious and cautious about their money. Some real contact credentials would make people feel safer, because if something went seriously wrong, like for example if your site dissapeared and with it all the bitcoins and money of the users, they could find and contact you somehow.

You should advertise MyChoice more, for the same reasons I mentioned regarding the phone and address. People need to know that their money is with a real company, that they can get in touch with in case something goes wrong etc. And since MyChoice seems to be a relatively well known legit company on its field, and also has real addresses and phones which you dont, you should advertise your partnership with them in my opinion.

Many people dont exactly know what you actually offer, and they dont understand that you are a Bitcoin exchange/wallet site, that also offers a way to top up prepaid cards. They probably think you issue the cards or that the cards directly consume bitcoins. I for example wouldn't trust a card issuer with no history, phones and real address.
Especially people not familiar with bitcoin, that need your card for other reasons (for example I got your card due to a temporary ban on international transactions here), need a good explanation of exactly how your site and services work. And I'm pretty sure many (if not most) of your users are not bitcoin investors looking for ways to convert their BTC to real currencies, but people like me that will buy BTC (probably from other sellers/exchanges) in order to use your card.

While your help videos are very easy to understand, having just videos instead of an in depth text guide looks unprofessional, and contributes to the shady feek of your site (in conjunction with the lack of real contact credentials and detailed explanation of how everything works and what companies are involved).

I think you offer a great service, and honestly hope that you will continue offering it. It works fine for me and I encountered no problems.

No offense, but for the reasons I explained, and it seems many people agree with me, your site has a shady, scammy vibe to it. I wouldn't leave my BTC in your wallet, even now that I used your card with no problems.

Look at it from a marketing standpoint. People are being turned away from your services due to this. I did my best to explain what many people find wrong, I hope it helps.
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August 14, 2015, 11:06:51 AM
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Is there a problem with issuing cards to the USA?

Sorry but I don't trust anything 'newbie' accounts say about services on this forum due to the HUGE number of scams going on.
Only full or long standing members can be trusted here. Even then those accounts can be bought so still have to tread lightly.

Our bank cannot issue cards to the USA for the time being. The cards can be used there, but can only be shipped to addresses outside the USA. We hope to overcome this limitation in the near future, but don't have any definite timeline for that as yet

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August 14, 2015, 11:07:18 AM
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This is good for Bitcoin but the site is cheap and look scammy, I wouldn't trust my money in this kind of cheap kid web site domain.

any good reason for such statement? Have you tried the service?
I was looking for bitcoin debit card today I check this thread and now applying for card hope this will work for me

Thank you very much.
Hope you will get it soon and test and see for yourself that it works as quickly and easily as promised.
I am very sad because my country name is not in list its mean I cannot apply for this card am I right ?

Which country is that?

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August 14, 2015, 11:12:31 AM
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In brief:
- we only provide support via e-mail, and the e-mail, and there is a contact form and support@e-coin e-mails openly available on the website. It would be very hard, if possible at all, to deal with 90% of the requests we get via telephone, hence, no telephone numbers provided.
- MyChoice (WaveCrest Holdings) is mentioned in the Ts&Cs when you are ordering the card. Maybe we should advertise it more, not sure
- Other partners, such as BitGo is openly advertised on the home page and in the "Partners" section
- What do you mean by explaining how it works? A better description of the service than the one available?

Would really appreciate your inputs..

I understand your choice to not include phone support, indeed it would probably be chaotic. You could perhaps do it with a high charge line, in addition to the free email support though.

Im talking about a landline, an address, something real that people can get in contact with your company, not for everyday support.

I do understand its easy to run the whole site/services from a server on a data center and that there is no need for office space, but you are dealing with money, and people will always be suspicious and cautious about their money. Some real contact credentials would make people feel safer, because if something went seriously wrong, like for example if your site dissapeared and with it all the bitcoins and money of the users, they could find and contact you somehow.

You should advertise MyChoice more, for the same reasons I mentioned regarding the phone and address. People need to know that their money is with a real company, that they can get in touch with in case something goes wrong etc. And since MyChoice seems to be a relatively well known legit company on its field, and also has real addresses and phones which you dont, you should advertise your partnership with them in my opinion.

Many people dont exactly know what you actually offer, and they dont understand that you are a Bitcoin exchange/wallet site, that also offers a way to top up prepaid cards. They probably think you issue the cards or that the cards directly consume bitcoins. I for example wouldn't trust a card issuer with no history, phones and real address.
Especially people not familiar with bitcoin, that need your card for other reasons (for example I got your card due to a temporary ban on international transactions here), need a good explanation of exactly how your site and services work. And I'm pretty sure many (if not most) of your users are not bitcoin investors looking for ways to convert their BTC to real currencies, but people like me that will buy BTC (probably from other sellers/exchanges) in order to use your card.

While your help videos are very easy to understand, having just videos instead of an in depth text guide looks unprofessional, and contributes to the shady feek of your site (in conjunction with the lack of real contact credentials and detailed explanation of how everything works and what companies are involved).

I think you offer a great service, and honestly hope that you will continue offering it. It works fine for me and I encountered no problems.

No offense, but for the reasons I explained, and it seems many people agree with me, your site has a shady, scammy vibe to it. I wouldn't leave my BTC in your wallet, even now that I used your card with no problems.

Look at it from a marketing standpoint. People are being turned away from your services due to this. I did my best to explain what many people find wrong, I hope it helps.


Many thanks for your detailed comments and recommendations!
Resources are stretched, but we will try to take them into account as much as possible.

As for keeping BTC in the wallet, it is best industry practice not to do so regardless of whether you trust or don't trust the wallet. We apply the best security standards in the industry, incorporating BitGo into our service, yet still, would only recommend using the wallet as operational one, the core of your bitcoin funds should be kept in cold wallet.

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August 14, 2015, 01:05:57 PM
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Is there a problem with issuing cards to the USA?

Sorry but I don't trust anything 'newbie' accounts say about services on this forum due to the HUGE number of scams going on.
Only full or long standing members can be trusted here. Even then those accounts can be bought so still have to tread lightly.

Our bank cannot issue cards to the USA for the time being. The cards can be used there, but can only be shipped to addresses outside the USA. We hope to overcome this limitation in the near future, but don't have any definite timeline for that as yet

All right, thanks

Still waiting for reviews of non Newbie members though.

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August 15, 2015, 10:29:41 AM
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Someone already has this card?
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August 15, 2015, 02:35:44 PM
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Someone already has this card?

i do have since two months now ( Morocco ), if you want to order you can via my link to get the discount https://www.e-coin.io/?ref=ce12e784e6004a628f11b696da4adb65#sthash.MivM6bFR.dpuf

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