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December 11, 2015, 03:31:28 PM
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I think now everyone is afraid of touching any alts because of the BTC uptrend. Because if BTC does move even higher most alts will be dumped. VNL is holding quite well in this situation and over 20 BTC buys above 10K are most likely waiting for this to happen. So I wouldn't expect any action until BTC rally is over.

hmm... does anyone have a chart showing the VNL rise in price from march vs fiat?

looking at bitstamp charts of BTC against VNL charts on poloniex?
 If you just look at the bimonthly average growth it looks like VNL has just been steadilly increasing the whole time.

looks to me like BTC rise and fall has just been masking what is already happenning...  VNL is winning

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December 11, 2015, 08:15:09 PM
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i see no dumping and no buying no dumping due to potential and no buying due to people holding their btc given its uptrend. just buy and just be in when this arrow leaves the bow and hits bullseye


by looking at charts i think 30k + is where we will find resistance which will take some doing to break then real orders near 40-50k but i can't see myself selling this i think 100,000 sats would be a mistake as once the word really gets out, people will compare vnl to coins lik dash ltc, btc bts, and think wtf  i think etoque is right 0.01 would be a reasonable target
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December 11, 2015, 08:57:00 PM
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I got a request and couldn't stop myself, sorry Wink



Please Retweet:
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December 11, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
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~8750 is VNL floor (per all time chart). BTC most likely dump ~307. Alternatives will rally. Cool

Thank you for your support.

scam dev just talks about price.


john-conner's project, Vanillacoin (VNL), includes a significant amount of reformatted and, at best, lightly-edited Bitcoin code which has illegally and unethically had its attribution and copyright notices removed. In addition, he describes Vanillacoin as written "from scratch in its entirety", a false, misleading, and fraudulent claim that is being used to promote his coin. Given that this shows dishonesty, low credibility, and willingness to engage in unethical conduct, extreme caution is advised.

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December 11, 2015, 11:53:07 PM
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@ktfutura I can not understand why you put so much time in fudding, it's just pointless? If you watch all of your posts, you are calling pump and dump, scammers on almost every altcoin EXCEPT EXPANSE coin, hmmmm, you call other people fudders on this forum while you fudd all day long, did you see the price of expanse today! Do yourself a favor and try to promote the coins you like and not always be so negative about other coins. Cheers and good luck.
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December 11, 2015, 11:55:46 PM
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~8750 is VNL floor (per all time chart). BTC most likely dump ~307. Alternatives will rally. Cool

Thank you for your support.

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john-conner's project, Vanillacoin (VNL), includes a significant amount of reformatted and, at best, lightly-edited Bitcoin code which has illegally and unethically had its attribution and copyright notices removed. In addition, he describes Vanillacoin as written "from scratch in its entirety", a false, misleading, and fraudulent claim that is being used to promote his coin. Given that this shows dishonesty, low credibility, and willingness to engage in unethical conduct, extreme caution is advised.



il trust poloniex decision to list them due to its innovative features over your judgement

and as far as price he aint done nothing to hype. no pre release hype. he says n delivers

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December 12, 2015, 12:02:49 AM
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I don't know what I like better: hyping wink smileys or fudding red letters Grin They both usually come with bad grammar and no punctuation.
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December 12, 2015, 12:34:51 AM
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...someone wants to get cheap coins...
...but it's not early 2014...everybody knows the tricks...  Grin
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December 12, 2015, 08:07:13 AM
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...and the track  Grin
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December 12, 2015, 12:04:04 PM
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You donated to me? This has only happend to me with DOGE so far. I can give hobonickels back in return Cool
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December 12, 2015, 12:06:29 PM
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the wallet still crashes if you double rightclick the lock

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December 12, 2015, 12:13:18 PM
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I could make an ad with exposure to 120000 Thai people for 10k
like the one here on the bottom right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEDuPfOFkMA
send coins if interested Grin

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December 12, 2015, 12:29:25 PM
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I could make an ad with exposure to 120000 Thai people for 10k
like the one here on the bottom right: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEDuPfOFkMA
send coins if interested Grin

Please open a thread over at talk.vanillacoin.net for ideas like these.

Also please first explain your idea in detail before asking for any kinds of donations for it and don't just straight out ask for coins.

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December 12, 2015, 12:30:06 PM
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the wallet still crashes if you double rightclick the lock

It doesn't crash for me on windows. If you use windows, the error may be on your side.

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December 12, 2015, 04:08:45 PM
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No replies on the chainblender whitepaper? Will this not add many bloat to the chain? Looks like a mixer to me

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December 12, 2015, 04:15:50 PM
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Can you push the coin to here, please?
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz

This won't happen anymore and they are irrelevant as an exchange.

Why?

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December 12, 2015, 05:53:55 PM
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The Force Awakens Cheesy



https://twitter.com/bubblebobble123/status/675734650036330496

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December 12, 2015, 05:56:32 PM
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Please don't advertise your coin in other ANN threads.
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December 12, 2015, 06:11:37 PM
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Interesting calculations:

- VNL superpeer: roughly 300 VNL/month = 0.037 BTC = 15 USD. ROI: 36%
- DASH masternode: 10 DASH/month = 0.06 BTC = 25 USD. ROI: 12%

Seems like VNL superpeers are 3 times more profitable than masternodes for now. DASH ROI will only decrease over time because it depends on block reward and number of masternodes. For VNL it's not clear because the amount of PoW given to superpeers is constantly increasing.

It's always good to know more and try to calculate ROI, but this what you have done here for VNL is not acurate in so many ways.
You introduced to many parameters which can influance on final result but on the end you are comparing USD value and percentage is given for a year.

Investment
You must decide if you will calculate in USD or BTC or VNL cause all that influance on ROI and only calculation in VNL could give more or less acurrate number because...
it's not the same if someone bought BTC @250$ or 350$ and then bought VNL for ~9k or ~12k or ~25k
So based on timing and USD/BTC/VNL coresponding prices this can change every calculation.
All mentioned should apply to DASH as well.

Rewards per day / per month
... in average that should be blocks generated per day / nuber of super peers - currently ~1,6
So currently 1.6 x 8.74 x 30 that should give ~400VNL per super peer per month with notice that
 - in last month nuber of superpeers increased from ~130 to ~240 and
 - fact that rewarding system is based on luck
... so it can happen that some super peer gets 2-3-4 rewards one day and next day gets none

So if we would look at current numbers and we look only VNL than ROI on yearly base would be ~ 48% or 2,08 yeras to ROI initiall investment but...
... what is hard to predict is what will happen with number of super peers in future and specially in time when price of VNL will go up.
What is known is that every 50k blocks PoW reward is reducing by 1/6 and progression of super peer percentage rewards can be found here:
https://gist.github.com/john-connor/967ba7f7e9dd0ec1f7a9

So, calculating/predicting ROI for super peers is as hard as for mining except here you always have your initial investement in VNL while in mining you have pile of old hardware.



You're right, that's why I added the "for now" part. So it's accurate for the time being only and the ROI is just an extrapolated value which will most likely decrease as/if the coin gains popularity.
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December 12, 2015, 06:57:26 PM
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How many VNL coins flood the market through mining and staking every day?

19700 ish, a bit less than 20k
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