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												 September 27, 2013, 03:43:25 PM  | 
										  
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							For those that have PT shares on BTCT, where are you transferring them? Seems like Bitfunder and Havelock are the best options but I'm not very familiar with either. 
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												 September 27, 2013, 03:46:07 PM  | 
										  
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							And soon they are going to bite ASICMINER's dust. Guys BTW the update says 500TH soon. Do you think it means to hash with in the farm or to sell     
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							Will take me a while to climb up again, But where is a will, there is a way... 
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												 September 27, 2013, 03:57:12 PM  | 
										  
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							And soon they are going to bite ASICMINER's dust. Guys BTW the update says 500TH soon. Do you think it means to hash with in the farm or to sell    Doesnt matter they will receive the BTC anyway. If they can get that 500TH the shareholders will profit.  
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							bullish on Bitcoin + Peercoin 
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												 September 27, 2013, 04:00:05 PM  | 
										  
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							And soon they are going to bite ASICMINER's dust. Guys BTW the update says 500TH soon. Do you think it means to hash with in the farm or to sell    Doesnt matter they will receive the BTC anyway. If they can get that 500TH the shareholders will profit. Exactly. If he can sell it / franchise it at a better rate than mining with it then I hope he does so.  
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												 September 27, 2013, 04:05:21 PM  | 
										  
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							And soon they are going to bite ASICMINER's dust. Guys BTW the update says 500TH soon. Do you think it means to hash with in the farm or to sell    Doesnt matter they will receive the BTC anyway. If they can get that 500TH the shareholders will profit. Exactly. If he can sell it / franchise it at a better rate than mining with it then I hope he does so. Friedcat has been doing that quite efficiently up until now so I don't think that's going to change.   
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												 September 27, 2013, 04:37:46 PM  | 
										  
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							And soon they are going to bite ASICMINER's dust. Guys BTW the update says 500TH soon. Do you think it means to hash with in the farm or to sell    Doesnt matter they will receive the BTC anyway. If they can get that 500TH the shareholders will profit. Exactly. If he can sell it / franchise it at a better rate than mining with it then I hope he does so. Friedcat has been doing that quite efficiently up until now so I don't think that's going to change.  There is still no reason they shouldn't have 20% of the hash rate. If it is infact better to sell all your miners for profits thus increasing the hashrate thus making it harder for yourself to mine, that 100% points in the direction that this market is overloaded and there is no long term investment at current btc prices. Essentially once the profitability of mining comes to an end, which is very close, so will asicminer.  I feel like the real strategy would have been to mine with all your chips and get a monopoly on the market, thus locking everyone else out because it wouldn't be profitable for them to start mining. Instead they did the opposite and locked themselves out!  
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												 September 27, 2013, 04:38:09 PM  | 
										  
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							And soon they are going to bite ASICMINER's dust. Guys BTW the update says 500TH soon. Do you think it means to hash with in the farm or to sell    It's a chance that my credit card company refund me at 100% !  
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												 September 27, 2013, 06:06:25 PM  | 
										  
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							Hell I'm selling my hardware now because even though I'll break even, I won't make nearly as much as I can sell it for.
  Holding BTC is a better choice right now. 
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												 September 27, 2013, 07:04:50 PM Last edit: September 27, 2013, 07:26:05 PM by Strange Vlad  | 
										  
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							Hell I'm selling my hardware now because even though I'll break even, I won't make nearly as much as I can sell it for.
  Holding BTC is a better choice right now.
  That's because your expectations of the network growth speed is higher than that of the market.  And I agree with you on that: probably many people will pay for their devices more than they would ever mine, but that's all to the best for someone who sells the pickaxes. Just look at this acceleration graph below, I thought 2.5%/day would be the ceiling but no, it looks like it can accelerate even faster.  P.S. chart from  bitcoin.sipa.be 
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												 September 27, 2013, 07:09:34 PM  | 
										  
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							Any speculations about the shareprice development in long term 
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												 September 27, 2013, 07:24:03 PM  | 
										  
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							Just look at this acceleration graph below, I thought 2.5%/day would be the ceiling but no, it looks like it can accelerate even faster.  what site did you get that chart from?  
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												 September 27, 2013, 07:27:30 PM  | 
										  
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							Just look at this acceleration graph below, I thought 2.5%/day would be the ceiling but no, it looks like it can accelerate even faster.  what site did you get that chart from? Sorry, forgot to mention it's from  bitcoin.sipa.be 
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												 September 28, 2013, 12:09:23 AM  | 
										  
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							Any speculations about the shareprice development in long term
  How long term?  The next week(s) might see some more slow but not too ugly decline. Selling right now because of this is risky though, since you have no idea on what day FC will come out with an update. When AM gets the 500TH over the coming month -> big price boost, definitely back up >2 while seeing some very sweet dividends again over the following weeks. Longer it gets kind of difficult to predict. It depends a lot on how the competition will perform. Judging by the past, they will all act on the professional level of a bunch of pre-school kids and not get  anything done (except probably Cointerra - if I could invest in them, I would). It also depends a lot on how AM's next-gen chips will perform. Right now, we know next to nothing about them. But either way, I expect AM to stay in a strong position at least until towards the end of Q1 2014, even if their next-gen chips turn out to be complete garbage.  I think the share price is too low right now and just a product of the usual short-sightedness of the people here.  A few lower divs and all jump ship, only to flock back when the divs get juicy again. Easy money if you just got a little patience.  
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												 September 28, 2013, 12:38:12 AM  | 
										  
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							Just look at this acceleration graph below, I thought 2.5%/day would be the ceiling but no, it looks like it can accelerate even faster.  what site did you get that chart from? Sorry, forgot to mention it's from  bitcoin.sipa.bethanks, just realized i could have simply gottten the url from your embedded image. that weekend beer seems to have slowed down my brain activity     
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												 September 28, 2013, 01:27:39 AM  | 
										  
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							ghash.io has over 200TH, but showing up only 5% in  http://blockchain.info/pools, AM is 3% currently, mean while the Unknown is 25%, any idea who're hiding in that big pie ?  
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							It's a hell of a thing if you ask me:) It's hella better than what appears to be AM circling the drain. .. . and targetting a tech that's going to be almost worthless by january. . . .if anybody else gets product in hand in the next 90 days the AM train is over  
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												 September 28, 2013, 01:41:26 PM  | 
										  
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							if anybody else gets product in hand in the next 90 days the AM train is over
  if I had a bitcoin for every time I saw that on this thread...  
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