If it happens two years from now when Canelo is in the twilight of his career then I'll go for Crawford but if this happens in May of next year then no doubt I'll go for Canelo as Crawford is just too small for him, I mean he needs at least 2-3 fight to prove his worth on the 168lbs division. I think he is just calling Canelo as this is a money fight for him of the latter took the bait.
And addition to that, it's too early to speculate, I might as well then wish for Charlo to win against Canelo if he is going to fight Crawford next. But then again, if Canelo wins, this is going to be a big jump for Crawford at 168 lbs, and as you have said, he needs to fine tune his body at this extra weight as I don't believed that he is walking about that weight even off season, 154 lbs seems to be right though for Crawford. And even if Charlo losses then he goes back to 154 lbs and governing bodies give him back his belt, then I will rather see that fight as they have a beef already. |
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We have witnessed Tank vs. King Ry, Inoue vs. Fulton and Crawford vs. Spence. I am shaking my head why this young Devin Haney does not fight Shakur Stevenson and risk is undisputed lightweight championship against the best. These young boxers are sometimes only good in trashtalk, however, the opponents in their records are not big names.
Perhaps that's the reason why the Haney's sign with PBC, as he doesn't want to rematch Loma or fight Top Ranks Shakur Stevenson. But maybe they realized that they eat more than they can chew in choosing a reigning 140 lbs titlist in Regis Prograis. Much better, and has more power than any fighter that they have fought and so they want to take control of the negotiations in any way they can. @Darker45 - if I'm not mistaken, the date is supposedly Oct 28 for them to clash. This might be why we continue to witness more boxing fans start watching MMA. The organization behind boxing is in disorder because of these different promotions that compete against each other and these different championships that have their own mandatory rules. I reckon this makes it difficult for the best to negotiate with the other best and also much of the time, they avoid each other. Nah, even though that corruption as rampant in boxing, still for me, it's one of the most watch fights as compare to MMA (no offense to MMA fans, as I'm also a fan). But it's very different with you have 4 governing bodies at the same time, and then we have a lot of promoters vying for that spot. For their fighters to become a champion regardless of what belt is it. Compare to MMA wherein there is just one champion in every weight class and you have to earn your spot to become mandatory. But in any case, we shouldn't compare the two though, we can both be fans of this contact sports and enjoy it, IMHO. |
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^ We will see if Rolly Romero did have injuries or clearly ducking his mandatory in Ohara Davies.
I have to check Ohara Davies resume and boxrec though to check if indeed why Romero sense to be avoiding him (doesn't make sense), since he fought Tank Davis already, in short he has the balls so why now?
72 hours means it should be US time by Monday and by the following day we will know if he has suffered injuries or not or will be stripped of his newbly WBA belt at 140 lbs.
Most likely it's a duck to me, he has been ordered by the WBA and yet it seems that Oscar and the governing body itself can't find Rolly? Where is he hiding now? he is a big mouth and loves media attention, you can check his videos on youtube and other interviews. But suddenly he went MIA, and it's good that he has been given at least 72 hours to explain everything and hopefully WBA will be fair to give Ohara Davies his time and crack for the belt. It's about time that they should enforce the mandatory specially in lesser body like the WBA. In they were able to do this, then for sure they could at least have the balls to tell Rolly to defend the belt and/or push a schedule already. I'm not sure why he's ducking though but I think he's quite afraid that Ohara Davis will deliver his second loss as the man is more experienced and also a KO artist. And we know that he can't quite handle that as he was still healing from his loss against Tank Davis whom he though that he could actually take down just because Mayweather believes in him, but in the reality, Mayweather just delivered him to take a chance because that was Tank's last fight under Mayweather's banner. Most likely that is the case, he is fighting lesser known boxers, and he should be facing Davies for the title, but it seems he is pulling excuses after one another and the recent is his injuries that we question whether he had one or is just afraid to defend it against Ohara. Hopefully he will show his face rather than getting stripped without explaining and proving himself. He still have less 72 hours to think now and hopefully he will use that time to weigh the things more carefully.
We will see, times is running on his side, he either can show medical certificate, but this can be "doctored" as well. It's better for the WBA or Oscar to request a 3rd party to examined whether Rolly really has injured or just faking it out. |
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I believe the most recent ranking from BoxRec should be taken into consideration. Currently, John Riel Casimero holds the top position, with Marlon Tapales following in second place. This situation indicates that Inoue has a significant challenge ahead – facing Casimero – to demonstrate that he truly deserves the title of the best, rather than just relying on his record and not giving what the fans what they want to see. 
https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?country=PH&division=Super%20Bantamweight&offset=0&role=box-pro&sex=MThis is already a locked bout so I guess it's too late to hope for a Casimero - Inoue any time soon. Tapales is an OK fighter, but may receive a beating from the Japanese boxer known for his speed and powerful lefts. Also, BoxRec isn't an 'official' organization that boxing orgs should reference to. There's just a lot of possible angles that both camps can use in order to set the fight or avoid it. As you can see, all those names are Filipino, so we can somehow say that those rankings are just based on power and recent fights which is believable because Casimero indeed holds a tough position over Tapales, it's just that the latter is the champion right now that is why he is the one who will be facing Naoya Inoue for the undisputed fight that could put Inoue towards history for being the second boxer next to Crawford to achieve two undisputed titles, considering that the Japanese monster pull this off successfully. Yeah, but I disagree though, I mean Tapales is a world champ right now, and so how come Casimero is the top rank Filipino when he doesn't have any belt at 122 lbs and just have like 2 fights, one in a controversial win, and the other fight that he should have won in a knockout but he wasn't about to? While Tapales is also on winner streak and then won over against a tough Akhmadaliev? And so it's misleading at least for me to see Casimero on top of the super bantamweight for Flipinos, it should be Marlon Tapales hands down, no hate to John Riel as I'm a fan but that's not right to put him on top of the rankings there. |
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How about the games call Crazy times? Or simply it's a wheel that you can bet 1x, 2x, 5x and 10x.
So obviously you can start to bet on the numbers and the smallest denominations like less than a dollar.
And it's good if you hit that multiple and then there is the other options like Crazy times, Plinko and Coin Flip wherein it can add more to your winnings. Of course, there is the old dice game/colour games as well.
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^ Bitcoin goes down to $25,000 in the last 2 days or so, and so it looks like we are in the bearish phase and it seems everything now has been invalidated unless we get back to $26,500 and see how it goes.
And so it's a mix signal right now, and most likely eventhough we are in the buy region, no one is biting because there are indicators that we might go down again to lows of $25,000 as liquidations might come at the start of the week, or there could be a potential bounce back to $28,000. Hoping for the best though at the start of a new week.
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AI may be good in prediction but it is based on previous history of the game, and so saying it can accurately predict results is just an exaggeration.
I don't fully concur with this statement. In my opinion, AI excels at providing information, but when it comes to prediction, its function is based solely on algorithms to offer insights. Even if individuals possess the same comprehension of the information, they might arrive at different predictions. AI lacks the capability to experience emotions or feelings, which makes it unreliable for predicting the inherently unpredictable outcomes of a game. I think what he meant is just the numbers, the previous history of the game, the scores or results. And maybe through that, AI can generate a prediction without the aid of emotions and that is the big difference between us and this Ai. Maybe for AI if they look at the historical logs and see that this team is always losing, then it will just continue with the trend and says that it's going to lose next game. But for us, there could be some upsets in the making, that AI can't see. Like players getting injured before or even during the game that can change the complexion and those underdogs become the favorite now because of such unfortunate cases. |
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It can be done actually by crypto related casinos, but the question is, if this cockfighting is profitable as only few Asian countries love this sports and maybe some in Latin America.
Plus maybe there could be some animals rights going to make some noises if ever some high and reputable casino started to show live feed of two cock trying to kill each other for the sake of betting or making money.
And with that, It's possible, but I highly doubt that crypto casinos are more willing to take that risk.
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The question is, is this fight going to happen now? Anyone can share any news though? it seems that we have gone off-topic with Floyd and other boxers in this thread. Maybe everyone can see this Tapales fight here to see if he has a good chance to win, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Krk0B0OeU8UTo be honest, I don't see him having a good chance of defeating Inoue. While he's undoubtedly skilled, facing Inoue, who is an exceptional and well-rounded fighter, his aggressive style might only lead to an early knockout. He'd be fortunate if he manages to land the first significant blow on Inoue, because if not, Inoue's power is likely too much to withstand. Though Tapales is one of our own, I'm not allowing bias to affect my opinion. I'm simply expressing my honest viewpoint. However, if it were Casimero, I believe the odds would be more evenly split. I don't believe the odds would be evenly split. During the initial announcement of the Inoue vs. Casimero fight, which was subsequently canceled, bookies heavily favored Inoue to win. I don't expect this to change now, especially given Inoue's continued success and Casimero no longer holding the championship title. What I mean is that bookies might exaggerate Inoue's chances due to his championship accomplishments. This situation actually benefits those of us who support and believe that Casimero is capable of triumphing over Inoue. Meanwhile, here's some news about Fulton. Stephen Fulton moving up to 126 To Capture Title, Then Rematch Naoya Inoue. It would be too easy for Inou then to get another belt, but the question is, can Fulton capture a title at 126? Well that was the original plan of Fulton though before fighting Inoue, he supposedly rematch Brandon Figueroa, who become a champion at 126 lbs when he defeated Mark Magsayo. But for unknown reasons or maybe Fulton chasing greatness, he chooses to stay at 122 lbs and defend his belt against the Monster Inoue. Full of confidence before the fight and think that he can just go to Inoue homecourt and beat his ass. However, it was a rude awakening for Fulton as he was clearly knockout by the power of Inoue and for the first time tastes defeat. He seems though is arrogant and not acknowledge the power of Inoue and now that he wants a rematch? No doubt that Fulton might have a good chance to beat any at 126 lbs specially if it will be Figueroa as he already dealt Brandon a L. |
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^ We will see if Rolly Romero did have injuries or clearly ducking his mandatory in Ohara Davies.
I have to check Ohara Davies resume and boxrec though to check if indeed why Romero sense to be avoiding him (doesn't make sense), since he fought Tank Davis already, in short he has the balls so why now?
72 hours means it should be US time by Monday and by the following day we will know if he has suffered injuries or not or will be stripped of his newbly WBA belt at 140 lbs.
Most likely it's a duck to me, he has been ordered by the WBA and yet it seems that Oscar and the governing body itself can't find Rolly? Where is he hiding now? he is a big mouth and loves media attention, you can check his videos on youtube and other interviews. But suddenly he went MIA, and it's good that he has been given at least 72 hours to explain everything and hopefully WBA will be fair to give Ohara Davies his time and crack for the belt. It's about time that they should enforce the mandatory specially in lesser body like the WBA. In they were able to do this, then for sure they could at least have the balls to tell Rolly to defend the belt and/or push a schedule already. |
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The Influence by friends or relatives to gamble are the common reason why gamblers are into gambling today and personally I’m also a product of this one. I remember when my friends go to the casino for the first time and I can say that he influenced me to gamble more and that is the start of my gambling journey. I believe if you are into gambling as well there’s a chance for you to adopt easily and if you are going to encourage someone into gambling, please make sure to tell everything especially the risk of losing the money.
The best thing is to not encourage other people gambling. That can possibly be a root of rift between friends, especially if the one you recruited in gambling lost a huge amount of money and they are looking for someone to blame for their mistakes. I don't let my friends or peers know that I'm gambling, and if they manage to know that I am gambling, I would steer clear from the conversation and try to talk about something else. Yeah, in a perfect world, for sure no one in their right frame of mind are going to encourage or help people to gamble and or have their first taste of playing like in a casino whether online or offline. But in the world that we move in, there are ways to get addicted even without any peer pressure as online gaming is prevalent specially during the pandemic and now it's hard stop this gambling addiction once it sets in. And so whether we let our friends know or not, and maybe they are also thinking the same, not to let you know as well. But this is gambling, it can destroy relationship and so it's better not to teach anyone or influence them to gamble. |
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I think it's too late though, I mean there are already who sold that's why it has a domino effect on the market right now -11% in the last 7 days, ouch. But it seems that it has settled down a bit, prices going back to $26,000 and most likely those who come to their senses right now might have think that they messed up because of their panic selling.
So let's wait for this month of August to settle down, we have another 2 weeks to go and hopefully for all the glory and marbles, we can go back to $30,000 so that all are anxieties for this month will be forgotten.
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Joshua’s Promoter Giving Wilder Negotiations 2 To 3 Weeks Or AJ Will Fight In Nov Or DecBy Jake Tiernan: Eddie Hearn has put a 2 to 3-week timeframe for when he wants the Deontay Wilder fight wrapped up for Anthony Joshua’s mega-fight in January in Saudi Arabia. Hearn says if it’s not completed within two or three weeks, he could start looking for a fight for Joshua (26-3, 23 KOs) in November or December. This is an important piece of news, and from here, we can track the progress of the negotiation. Hopefully, Wilder's camp will respond promptly and not waste time in ensuring that this significant fight will take place. What AJ's promoter is attempting to convey is their desire for an immediate response. If they can't secure an answer within that timeline, they will proceed with their business plans but with a different opponent. If I'm not mistaken, Eddie Hearn has been talking about the Wider fight, even before Joshua was supposed to fight Whyte/Helenius. And that fight is treated as a tune up fight for Joshua and it just so happen that Helenuis got knockout and so Joshua's confidence is back at all time high. And with that win, they are on track to have a fight with Wilder and hopefully it can happen this year or early next year. Doubt that the Wilder fight with Ruiz is going to push as he might go directly to fight AJ in the Middle East for more money. Here is the update of supposedly, Ruiz vs Wilder mandated fight by the WBC, and it's not happening, hehehe, The WBC has abandoned its prior attempt to determine a mandatory challenger for the heavyweight title.
A previously ordered Deontay Wilder-Andy Ruiz title eliminator is no longer required, the sanctioning body ruled Friday. The fight never had a chance to take place given recent events, including ongoing efforts for Wilder to next face fellow former heavyweight titlist Anthony Joshua likely early next year in the Middle East.
https://www.boxingscene.com/wbc-abandons-wilder-ruiz-final-eliminator-revisit-mandatory-process-november--177049So it just shows how corrupt WBC and the Sulaiman,  they initial ordered a fight between the Ruiz and Wilder and then later change their decision not to and allow Joshua (as he win against Helenius) to fight Wilder in the Middle East. And for sure, as Eddie Hearn secures big money from Middle East, the Sulaiman's has a cut on it. Ok as expected, the Andy Ruiz fight is cancelled already, its sucks that we will not see that fight between two great punchers. But again, as everyone is shouting here in this forum, boxing is a business, and with the involvement of Saudi Arabia as prime venue for boxing in the last couple of years + the huge money that Eddie Hearns' Saudi backers is willing to give him, no wonder WBC and the father and son Sulaiman is willing to do it. So moving forward we will just have to wait for the official announcement from Hearn or whoever Wilder is represented in this negotiating table. And it's going to be a big fight as it also involves Usyk vs Fury's name here. |
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^^ Might be first time that we are going to see a 3 divisional and unified champion if Crawford chooses to fight the winner of the Charlo vs Canelo. But then again, if Charlo is going to move up 2 division, Crawford will have to do 3 here from 147 lbs to 168 lbs and it's a big jump that no one has done before.
So it's a big challenge for him, although I wanted to see him going for Charlo's belt 154 lbs (if he is not stripped of it fighting Canelo here). It will be extra ordinary for him to just 3 weight classes and then beat Canelo at 168 lbs.
If Crawford can pull that one successfully, it will be on the history books and that is the kind of record that could be unbeatable even if someone will try to pull that kind of move again in the future because it's not something that can be done easily. Crawford already did a history and adding another undisputed title in another division will definitely put him on the top of every boxer that has been around in the industry. But the question is, can he pull that one off? It will be a risky one because he is still undefeated and regarding that jump, he needed to add 9 kilograms more or 11 pounds more just to get a fight against the one and only Canelo Alvarez. Jumping in weight class is really risky, just like I said before, Roy Jones took that route going as high as Heavyweight but it took a toll on him when the tries to go down in weight as his body reacted different from a drastic weight cut. Of course it's going to be one for the books, but if he is willing to do that and take a risk to go up and add from a super welterweight to super middleweight, it will be one hard to break and that is one record that will not be broken for a long time. |
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As been expected the fight will be exciting and both will survive because they're Mexican, congratulations for Navarette and nice try for Valdez. I think Valdez's boxing career is already near to end as he can't win against a champion, he only fight for 1-2 in a year. Valdez has a stamina, but he's just not good enough and he's already quite old, he will improving too much even he will train more harder.
I agree with you mate, seems that he is due for retirement already. He got Naverette in the chin a few times but somehow it didn't bother the latter so that means his power is fading already and like you said, he can't win in a championship fight so better for him to retire. I don't know if there is a rematch clause on this one and if indeed there is, better if Valdez won't exercise it. I doubt Valdez will retire right away. He just lost to the better man. Valdez landed huge power shots at Navarette that are capable of knocking out any guys in the division. It's just that Navarette is not only heavy-handed but has a very tough chin and a thick skin as I can't find any cut or bruise in his face. I'd still favor Valdez to win over WBA champion Hector Luis Garcia and IBF champion Joe Cordina. Maybe it's 50/50 against the WBC champion O'Shaquie Foster. So there are still a lot of good fights left for Valdez before retiring. As for Navarette, he wants to unify his belt and there are also some rumors about a potential match-up against Shakur Stevenson who's already campaigning 1 division north. I would love to see unification fights for this division to have an undisputed champion. I believe Navarrette would be the favorite now but the other networks are the main hurdle if they allow their underdogs to fight someone from a rival network with a huge potential of losing. Yep, I do agree, it's easy to conclude that at this point of his career, he should retire, although he really took a lot in his last fight with Navarette. But his first lost was really devastating against Shakur as it looks like he took Valdez soul that night. And it could be his best change to redeem himself and win another belt against Navarrete. And with that I also agree that he can beat Joe Cordina and Luis Garcia. But it might be different against a slick fighter in Foster. But let's see, hopefully he won't consider retiring. Might be needing just a tune up fight again before chasing for belts again. |
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Joshua’s Promoter Giving Wilder Negotiations 2 To 3 Weeks Or AJ Will Fight In Nov Or DecBy Jake Tiernan: Eddie Hearn has put a 2 to 3-week timeframe for when he wants the Deontay Wilder fight wrapped up for Anthony Joshua’s mega-fight in January in Saudi Arabia. Hearn says if it’s not completed within two or three weeks, he could start looking for a fight for Joshua (26-3, 23 KOs) in November or December. This is an important piece of news, and from here, we can track the progress of the negotiation. Hopefully, Wilder's camp will respond promptly and not waste time in ensuring that this significant fight will take place. What AJ's promoter is attempting to convey is their desire for an immediate response. If they can't secure an answer within that timeline, they will proceed with their business plans but with a different opponent. If I'm not mistaken, Eddie Hearn has been talking about the Wider fight, even before Joshua was supposed to fight Whyte/Helenius. And that fight is treated as a tune up fight for Joshua and it just so happen that Helenuis got knockout and so Joshua's confidence is back at all time high. And with that win, they are on track to have a fight with Wilder and hopefully it can happen this year or early next year. Doubt that the Wilder fight with Ruiz is going to push as he might go directly to fight AJ in the Middle East for more money. |
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Since there's no new update yet regarding the fight, let's discuss what Bob Arum said about his fighter Inoue, who he believes is probably better than Pacquiao.
What does he mean by that? Does he mean they have achieved more so far at the same age or division, or does he believe that Inoue would be able to surpass the success of Pacman? Many experts believe that there's a very slim chance that someone in the current generation would surpass what Pacman has achieved. So, if Inoue is special, he might be able to prove the experts wrong.
One advantage Inoue has over Pacman at the current age is that Inoue is still undefeated. However, if we compare the quality of opponents they have faced, I think Pacquiao has fought more challenging opponents than Inoue.
Perhaps what he meant that in terms of skills and most likely the power, Inoue could be better than Pacquiao. The thing with Manny though is that he really push himself to be great, meaning he is just a one dimensional fighter, but when he was trained by Roach, he uses his right hand effectively. But in terms of popularity, no doubt that Manny can fill in live gates whoever he faces, have records in the top 10 as far as PPV numbers is, number 1 to be exact when he fought Floyd and I doubt that anyone can break that numbers in the next 50 years. |
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I got notified few minutes ago on the sudden drop of -11 % bitcoin price and I also noticed same thing also affected other altcoin, while in a post they said of price surging within 72hrs that is to say that from now till 20 August we might see a potential Green and may cross above 30k within the next 3 days.
But to my surprise seeing that bitcoin already gone below the predicted price, although I can't still argue the fact that price can be manipulative and something positive could hit the market and, instantaneously changes direction just as it did happen now. Such effect could like happened to bitcoin and the price might dip more or surge more.
What is possibly to happen in the market, more dip that's seeing below 20k or something similar?
And is this another sign for bear market?
I guess this is a lessons for us, there will be a time that we might see a huge dip that is unexpected of the market, just like what we are seeing in the last 2 days or so. We thought that everything is good although we trade in a sideways patterns. But nevertheless, the price suddenly goes on a downward spiral and we can't pinpoint what is the exact reasons. There could be FUD around the Chinese news or Elon Musk but it is all speculations for now. |
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That's the only criticism leveled at Inoue, despite him being a great boxer. I read an article stating that Floyd wants to see Inoue fight in the US. This country offers better opportunities for boxers like him, and he could also find better challengers in a larger market. I suppose he needs to accept that challenge to silence those who believe Inoue's victories are due to his fights being mainly in Japan.
I've also come across rumors about Inoue potentially fighting Tank Davis at a catch weight. I think that could be lucrative for both fighters. However, the question remains, do both of them see this as an opportunity?
Maybe if Inoue wins some big-time knockout like he did against his last opponent in the US will probably raise his status among boxers and eventually, he will be invited to fight in the Middle East as well which we know the amount of the payment is hard to resist at all. As for fighting Tank Davis, it could be the best challenge for both of them since they are now at their prime and to miss this legendary fight would be a total waste because we have never seen such two fighters be able to come across again in both eras. now is the time to fight after they are finished with one fight because that's just how they are right now, easily winning fights and getting those belts easily as well. He has done it before, so I don't think he needs to have a knockout like he did against Fulton, he beat Nonito by 2 round knockout. He beat Butler to get the last of the belt in the bantamweight division. The current bantamweight IBF champion Emmanuel Rodriguez, he beat him by knockout that he quit while on the canvass. So he doesn't need to have another knockout reel to get his name. It's just a matter of how Bob Arum will promote it, but so far it seems that his Japanese counterpart has control of Inoue's career in my opinion as Arum can't bring Inoue to fight in the US. Yes, I do agree, Stephen Espinoza said in an interview that it's possible to have Inoue vs Davis fight as it is just 2 weight class (like Charlo moving up to challenge Canelo Alvarez). But we will see, just like Manny does before, maybe Inoue can go up in weight and fight the best. |
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Here is the Los Angeles face-off between the two fighters, this is mega fight so it's going to be big fight,  So two undisputed boxers here, Charlo says that he will beat Canelo, so we will see. Hype has started already for this superfight. I cannot wait for this fight to happen. I still believe that Canelo will return to his old beast form since he is more motivated to train harder against a fellow undisputed. Charlo may possess the skills and power that enabled him to become undisputed at 154 but he is moving up 2 divisions north. Canelo will be too big come fight night and he will continue to march forward to get a stoppage. And Jermell does not have enough power to make Canelo reluctant to come forward. After this fight, Jermell said he will return to 154 and defend his remaining 3 belts against Terrence Crawford. Win or lose to Canelo I'm still doubtful about his plan of dropping back in weight. If he gets KO'd by Canelo then Bud will also demolish him at 154. Yes, and we have seen boxers like Roy Jones Jr, who went as high as HW division to win a belt and then go back to 168 - 175 lbs and he wasn't the same anymore. And this could happen to Charlo as well, win or lose if he cuts back to 2 weight class down after fighting as high as 168 lbs, could have a devastating effect on his body. But of course, we want him and Crawford at 154 lbs and there has been a lot of trash talking between this two party at the Spence vs Crawford fight. So it's going to be exciting for Charlo to lay down his 3 belts against Bud. |
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