Please don't misunderstand me.   I was just saying that if they don't have a publicaly known donation address, then I can't claim it on taxes as a verifiable donation.  In that case, I would just donate the equivelent amount in cash/check.  It was in no way referring to you taking the money. 

The problem is that the address can be to anyone.  So, the charity would have to specifically indicate public where their receiving address is.   No offense, but anyone can claim to have an address for a donate and pop in another addy from their own wallet.

Todomont clearly stated, and was quoted:

I think that just about negates him from any legal action to get payment if Titans fault or fault of his own.

There is no doubt that he didn't buy the coin from Titan as he has admitted it and Titan pointed it out.  The coin was redeemed before he bought it and long before he tried to redeem it himself.

Be sure NOT to hide this thread.  I am sure they will get a real laugh.

Have them call me.

Lastly....
Why don't you simply publicly decline the 'bug bounty'.  I don't like seeing that Tim made it 1 full bitcoin; however, being of my word, I will happily donate a matching 1 bitcoin to the same charity.  I trust that Tim will choose a known charity and worthy of the donation.

If Todamont publically declines the bounty (please), and there is real and true charity which accepts the bounty, I will personally match the amount.

That said, I would hope the bounty to be very low, not because of the value, but because the bug was not one which made coins appear as Funded if already redeemed.  If that were the case, the bounty should have been the full 1BTC amount.

A chinese fake is: http://www.ebay.com/itm/181783897939
or ... http://imgur.com/oOVpacj
There are probably more types, but that is the common one.  No holo and not even a flat back to place one.

Spoken like a true scammer.  'If I can't get the full amount, I might as well try to get half the amount.'  'Send me half first so I can claim I didn't get it in order to force you to send another half.'

Titan wants to help you out with any legal action, but you clearly stated you didn't want to go that route?  WTF?  You don't want to go after the person that scammed you, so you will go after a company that had nothing to do with it?  I've seen such people fake falling in grocery stores.  Damn, I hurt my arm on vacation, but I will put up with the pain till I get back to work to claim I fell at work.  yada yada

Even better, you blindly buy a coin that you can't remember who you bought it from.  Tim gave you the email address of the original purchaser, but you don't want to pursue.  Why would you even peel it as you would have lost a big premium, but that doesn't matter (unless you suspected the coin to begin with).

You posted here acting completely surprised that the coin was 2FA instead of PKEY as if you had purchased the coin from Titan.  Hell, you even posted a rating as if you were surprised.  It was brought out that you purchased third party or multiple party.  Again, you blame Titan that it is 2FA (which is the default type upon checkout of a purchase of coins).

Todamont... You are amazing.  You just ramble on and on.  Kinda of like my now ex-wife.  Wanting to be right so much that she can't stop talking long enough to get a response.  You, like her, picks one thing, rants about it without a care for a response or listen to what other people have to say (right or wrong).

Tim mentions Chinese fake, and you just go on pointing out any coin just to get a response.  A true troll indeed.
Tim said there are about two dozen unfunded coins in the public (lost in mail, etc), which are marked as lost so not to ever fund.  You ignored the reason why such coins exist.

Tim mentions the site is down in order to do testing.  While down, it doesn't false represent any coin as funded (that would be a true issue), but instead, indicates all are in a state other than funded.  You blame the site for something after admitting that you never checked it.  You claim you didn't know of the site, but it's clearly printed on the label.

You claim to have opened the coin yourself.  No proof, but you obviously purchased unfunded coins from a seller that clearly stated:

None of your claims can be substantiated.
Had you been upstanding, you could have simply filed a claim and post to bitcointalk; however, you go on your tirade making accusations, verbal abuse, and threats.  Very poor communications skills in the least.

Why do you post in other peoples threads (multiple) instead of making your own?
How on Earth can you blame Titan for the number of mistakes you have made to get to this point, and continuing to make, is beyond me?  I feel like I am talking to a teenager.

I really doubt you have a personal contact at ebay to have confirm illegal goods.  You're still making stuff up as you see it.  And, it was probably you reporting it multiple times as illegal and they probably removed it simply not to have to deal with you constantly reporting and calling them incessantly.  It is REAL easy to have an auction removed from ebay (and craigslist) - competitors do this often.  And, Uhhh, of course ebay has a backup of the page/item.

Tim has handled his responses very well.  You should do well to learn from him.  I admit, I would have told you to screw off long ago.  Go buy last weeks lottery winning ticket numbers.

Stop buying redeemed coins and then wondering why you can't get paid on them.  Stop buying coins from people you shortly after can't remember whom you purchased from.  Stop accusing people without evidence of, well, anything.

Thank God.

Oh,
Merry Christmas

Before I decided to ignore the thread, I decided to do a little research.

You specifically bought redeemed coins on bitcoin talk.  What would be the ods of you trying to make money on those specific coins?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551096.msg6042783#msg6042783

From User:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81933

You paid .16 worth, while your offer was .08for one.  Your Feedback send was:  "Bought a (redeemed) 1btc titan physical bitcoin, silvergoldandbitcoin shipped the coin and it arrived as expected."

That user hasn't been active since August 03.  Nice waiting time before you decided to pull a claim since he is no longer after.

I just wonder (since it wasn't made public yet) if that was the person the coin belonged to.  Either you or Titan can confirm that.

Name:   silvergoldandbitcoin
Email:   bestofbitcointalk@gmail.com

An error which did NOT show the coin as funded.

At this point, I am going to stop following this thread.

As far as I am concerned, he opened the coin, took out the 1BTC (spent it), and is trying to get a free bitcoin on top of it.  Or, he simply fucked up and now wants someone else to pay for it.  He is using bitcointalk as a troll/FUD.  I am half curious as to why you would have peeled the coin anyway if not simply because you were suspect of it in the first place.

From your prior posts, I don't think anyone would take you seriously anyway.

Good luck with your future bitcoin purchases/sells.

OMG dude.  The error in the DB did NOT show the coin as funded.  And, you admittadly never checked the DB.  The loss was your own fault in not checking if the coin was even valid to begin with.

Yes, he signed a certificate which was valid at the time.  You CLAIM the sticker was intact; however, we can't see that.  As far as we know, you peeled it and spent it and now want a free bitcoin.  Or, it was peeled and you didn't notice it.

Wait, are you moving the subject to a coin on ebay, or the coin you have.

Your coin is redeemed.
The one on ebay is possibly one of those that are in limbo.  Meaning, the person bought it from Titan, and is trying to sell it as unfunded before information Titan that he received it yet / or even claiming it was lost.  No way for Titan to know if the person is waiting or planing to say he didn't get it.

IE.  I write you a check.   You don't have to cash it, but it is a good check.  You could try to sell it (someone could check that the check is valid and if funds exist to cover the funds), then then simply tell me you lost the check.

The mistake never had shown the coin as funded.  So, it's not (at this point) a mistake which cost you any BTC.  The mistake seems that you purchased a coin from a theif without having checked if the coin was valid or not.   Had it said 'FUNDED' and you purchased it, then I would expect you to have been paid.

I think not (currently), based on the above.

He said it was redeemed.  I guess the address could be made public if you have it.  If the original email address person doesn't reply, then you know who your thief is.   Also, I believe Titan said they were trying to get in touch with that person.


He answered this as well, having said, sellers could buy from Titan, post to sell on ebay (legitimately as unfunded), and once sold/ship, then enter the confirmation code with Titan to then be funded.


He answer this too, having said it was redeemed.  He did say there are a couple dozen 'lost' coins and they keep records on those.   I would like to see a stats page myself.  

No, what he said is that he is supposed to update the DB manually when 'private key' coins are received.  With 2FA coins, it is automatic when the user clicks the confirmation link in the email.

Issue, you purchased a 2FA coin, not a private key coin as you thought.


When the user/theif requested the 2FA information to get the other half of the private key, Titan did not update the DB to show Redeemed.  He said it must have been his mistake, but did NOT feel like updating the DB because of the ongoing issue with you.  This shows me that he isn't trying to hide the issue as he could have done it at anytime during your 30+ email thread.

I just noticed you basically said the same thing as I did while I was typing in my first response (with regards to possibly being coins lost in the mail).

I don't know if coins are reprinted; however, it would seem unlikely.  If they are, then anyone could claim lost and second a second copy to sell, then redeem, then scam.

What curious to me is that you didn't know the person who originally owned it as you said you received the email address from Titan.  Have you tried also going to the person you bought it from and/or emailed the original owner to clear it up?  If they are not responding, then also likely the scam was intentional as well.

Maybe you should also email Titan a link to the thread and ask them for a reply on the forum.  Make it fair in notifying them so they at least have a chance to reply/explain/defend.

Strange situation.

One thought is that coins go out unfunded and once the receiver tells Titan that they received the shipment, the coins are then funded.  I don't believe Titan specifically sold funded coins.
I can imagine people claiming they didn't receive the shipment in which case Titan reships another batch which then are received and funded.  The receiver then gets the first shipment and sells the coins intentionally scamming the person they sold them to (cough - or the post carrier or whomever found the lost shipment).

Depending on price and quality, I would take 5.
If you do a run for the Kialara bars, and the above works out, then I would take a bunch more.

It would be 'nice' if they could still fit the dimensions of a standard coin slab.

Ummmm, what is that?

How can the receiver not know what their address is and/or not wait for a notification (let alone a confirmation)?

Not sure if I want to join the auction as a purchase with Blazed or simply take all.   

I think the issue is that Blazed try to sell them as a package which cut down on his prospective market.
People like me wanted one of the coins and didn't want to deal with buying both, just to resell one.

Strangely, most want the Gold B version, even though I believe less of the straight silver exist.  Meh.
I ended up getting the coin I wanted from a guy locally.  So, I saved time not having to sell off the second one; however, I would have just kept it instead of dealing with selling it. 

Winner got a nice/fair deal.

You don't need to feel like an ass.

Issue is someone is promissing me one, but I think he is watching this auction to decide if he wants to let it go to me for the price he said.
So, it's why I said 5 was my max even the pair are worth more.

Also, quite honestly, I need to recheck my collection which are locked up right now.  Forgot this auction ended today.  Damn server time messed me up.

5BTC   My final bid.   I think.... unless someone wants to split with me.  (I am more interested in the NON Gold B)

4.75BTC  add time to the clock.