Tweets Kraken @krakenfx 2 Std. Kraken halts nothing! Because planning. Carry on  |
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Other exchanges are reporting withdrawal delays now. Maybe gox was right.
News Bitstamp Support 11th Feb., 2014 Bitcoin withdrawal processing suspended Dear Bitstamp users Bitstamp’s exchange software is extremely cautious concerning Bitcoin transactions. Currently it has suspended processing Bitcoin withdrawals due to inconsistent results reported by our bitcoind wallet, caused by a denial-of-service attack using transaction malleability to temporarily disrupt balance checking. As such, Bitcoin withdrawal processing will be suspended temporarily until a software fix is issued. No funds have been lost and no funds are at risk. This is a denial-of-service attack made possible by some misunderstandings in Bitcoin wallet implementations. These misunderstandings have simple solutions that are being implemented as we speak, and we're confident everything will be back to normal shortly. Withdrawals which failed on the 10th and 11th of February will be canceled and the amounts added back to the customer account balances. We will communicate any further developments regarding this issue. Thank you for your understanding! Best regards Bitstamp team https://www.bitstamp.net/news/ |
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Agreed. Mtgox should have halted trading before halting withdrawals of BTC. Obvious market manipulation while MTGOX collects fees on every trade. Utter BS.
Yes, fees of several thousand coins within the last month alone. But not willing to recruit staff to support the customers, or at least to eliminate the misleading lies on the frontpage. It's a crime, and defending a crime is a crime. |
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@rpietila
You really need to take a few deep breaths.
I totally agree with you that Mt. Gox is a bunch of liars and running their exchange in an immoral way. However, sturle has been 100% up front with everything. He has pretty much been telling everyone here exactly what he is doing and still managed to own a lot of people pretty hard. Most in his position would try to spread even more fear and try to move the price in a way that would make them the most profit. Sturle has done the opposite (even though he is probably the person in this thread who could cause the biggest panic by starting to say negative stuff about gox) and for that he deserves a good amount of respect.
Deserves zero respect. Rpietila is right. Sturle defended the criminal business behavior of the notorious liars at any time. |
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Sturle: I wonder if you are paid to take Gox's side on EVERYTHING or if your shilling is just a twisted way to protect your business which I assume relies on Gox.
But the more I think about it the more the latter doesn't make any sense, as its pretty obvious that the only way to protect your business was to move out from Gox months ago.
Goxed and sturled. You can congratulate everyone who listened to the advice of this company of clowns and their useful idiots. (expressed in sturles words and lyrics) Remember now to them we are the "manipulators" as well as useful idiots.  Yes, it's called the transvaluation of all values. (German: Umwertung aller Werte): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transvaluation_of_values |
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Sturle: I wonder if you are paid to take Gox's side on EVERYTHING or if your shilling is just a twisted way to protect your business which I assume relies on Gox.
But the more I think about it the more the latter doesn't make any sense, as its pretty obvious that the only way to protect your business was to move out from Gox months ago.
Goxed and sturled. You can congratulate everyone who listened to the advice of this company of clowns and their useful idiots. (expressed in sturles words and lyrics) |
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look at all the panic sale over the past several days, that's astonishing slaughtering, think about those sellers who just bought goxbtc at $200 above market just a week ago and now screaming to fire sell at $50-100 below market; Gox is the only asshole that benefit from this stupidity; They are taking advantage of the panic to pick up some cheap goxbtc at shit discount (they are the only guys that know all the gox$ plus goxbtc dark pool), then off load to the same guys selling today at huge mark-up tomorrow as people rush to withdraw - be rational guys, Gox is no way to be insolvent as they are just collecting all your btc at basement price- unexpectedly, Gox will announce "withdraw as usual" when they finally clean the floors , let's test my theory and prove me wrong over the next week.
I don t think they are insolvent at all. On the contrary. The huge delays even in JPY withdrawals can have been caused by only 2 reasons, imho: 1- technical incompetence 2- regulatory pressure which makes the whole process taking longer The last post from coindesk -http://www.coindesk.com/mt-gox-first-bitcoin-exchange-dead/- tends to confirm that. Roger Ver and Antonopoulos don t think they are insolvent either. Antonopoulos: “They will keep causing crashes in the bitcoin network until everyone abandons them, so abandon them sooner rather than later. Not because they’re frauds, but because they are amateurish – clownish – in their operations.” |
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Post Elliot wave counts and predictions for the short, medium or long term. Please include charts and short description. Please, NO Elliot Wave bashing. Leave that for another thread. Edit: Spelling Ellio tt, please. |
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I'm no fan of Wall Street and I prolly hate banksters worse than you do, but if you hate 'em so much, then why are you selling them your bitcoin at fire sale prices?
Are you crazy? Please go away or stay at home with your stories about history that you were told by your state (terrorists). A state who has been involved in more than one hundred wars in its short career. [/quote] LOL. You can say what you want about us yanks, but tonight, the line was held by Americans at Coinbase. I probably hate my government worse than you do, but I've never been more proud of my countrymen.
Yes, because you are a countryman, a nationalist, a collectivist. I don't know the future, but if I have anything to do with it, we'll be taking the lead from here.
You are a 'we'-man, a collectivist. Sell your coins at a $30 loss if you want. Courage wouldn't mean anything if everybody had it.
Sell? Are you crazy? |
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Anyone know what's the deal is with Coinbase? Their price is running about $25 over bitstamp right now, which is by far the furthest I've seen them spread. Usually they're pegged right within a dollar or two of stamp as that's where they do all their orders from (at least, that was the common assumption). Very odd that they've been sitting between 695-700 while stamp hovers around 670-675.
Anyone know what's going on there?
Obviously its Americans who are buying the fuck out of bitcoin. Kinda pisses me off that this spread reaches it's peak when I want to be buying and when I pulled the last of my coins out of Gox, the spread was the other way so I lose the spread every fucking time. But make no mistake, it's supply and demand and the yanks are coming. Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status! In Europe, we have an exchange, we have ATMs and there are several European countries with greater adoption per capita. Check sourceforge. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world.
Once again??? From Nazis, Commies, etc. Those crosses on the cliffs over Normandy aren't just landscaping. Haha. You mean Wallstreet bailed out? Those who create the monsters are those who save the world from it? Sutton's next three major published books — Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler and Wall Street and FDR — detailed Wall Street's involvement in the Bolshevik Revolution (in order to destroy Russia as an economic competitor and turn it into "a captive market and a technical colony to be exploited by a few high-powered American financiers and the corporations under their control"[3]) as well as its decisive contributions to the rise of Adolf Hitler and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, whose policies he assessed as being essentially the same, namely "corporate socialism" planned by the big corporations.[4] Sutton concluded that this was all part of the economic power elites' "long-range program of nurturing collectivism"[1] and fostering "corporate socialism" in order to ensure "monopoly acquisition of wealth", because it "would fade away if it were exposed to the activity of a free market".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._SuttonI'm no fan of Wall Street and I prolly hate banksters worse than you do, but if you hate 'em so much, then why are you selling them your bitcoin at fire sale prices? Selling? Are you crazy? Please go away or stay at home with your stories about history that you were told by your state (terrorists). A state that has been involved in more than one hundred wars in its short career. |
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Anyone know what's the deal is with Coinbase? Their price is running about $25 over bitstamp right now, which is by far the furthest I've seen them spread. Usually they're pegged right within a dollar or two of stamp as that's where they do all their orders from (at least, that was the common assumption). Very odd that they've been sitting between 695-700 while stamp hovers around 670-675.
Anyone know what's going on there?
Obviously its Americans who are buying the fuck out of bitcoin. Kinda pisses me off that this spread reaches it's peak when I want to be buying and when I pulled the last of my coins out of Gox, the spread was the other way so I lose the spread every fucking time. But make no mistake, it's supply and demand and the yanks are coming. Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status! In Europe, we have an exchange, we have ATMs and there are several European countries with greater adoption per capita. Check sourceforge. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world.
Once again??? From Nazis, Commies, etc. Those crosses on the cliffs over Normandy aren't just landscaping. Haha. You mean Wallstreet bailed out? Those who create the monsters are those who save the world from it? Sutton's next three major published books — Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler and Wall Street and FDR — detailed Wall Street's involvement in the Bolshevik Revolution (in order to destroy Russia as an economic competitor and turn it into "a captive market and a technical colony to be exploited by a few high-powered American financiers and the corporations under their control"[3]) as well as its decisive contributions to the rise of Adolf Hitler and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, whose policies he assessed as being essentially the same, namely "corporate socialism" planned by the big corporations.[4] Sutton concluded that this was all part of the economic power elites' "long-range program of nurturing collectivism"[1] and fostering "corporate socialism" in order to ensure "monopoly acquisition of wealth", because it "would fade away if it were exposed to the activity of a free market".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton |
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Anyone know what's the deal is with Coinbase? Their price is running about $25 over bitstamp right now, which is by far the furthest I've seen them spread. Usually they're pegged right within a dollar or two of stamp as that's where they do all their orders from (at least, that was the common assumption). Very odd that they've been sitting between 695-700 while stamp hovers around 670-675.
Anyone know what's going on there?
Obviously its Americans who are buying the fuck out of bitcoin. Kinda pisses me off that this spread reaches it's peak when I want to be buying and when I pulled the last of my coins out of Gox, the spread was the other way so I lose the spread every fucking time. But make no mistake, it's supply and demand and the yanks are coming. Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status! In Europe, we have an exchange, we have ATMs and there are several European countries with greater adoption per capita. Check sourceforge. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world.
Once again??? |
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Ah, here he is. He's still pushing the criminals and notorious liars.
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Re: Any chance that's our current channel?
There is no such thing as a 'chance', because there are no such things as 'contingent events'. There is only one possibility: the one and only possible reality. There aren't other ones.
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I do hope they aren't scamming as I still have coins there, and I also can't see how it's in their interest - being the most recognised exchange, if not the largest one, should be such an easy gig - keep everything working and people just give you their money. There is so much more money to be made doing that than running off with everything, and with less difficulty / risk.
"The most recognised exchange, if not the largest one" ?? What are you talking about? edit: amazing to watch - gox halts btc withdrawals and gox/stamp spread vanishes completely.
Amazing??? |
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This is a forum for liberty-lovers ("anarchists", "libertarians", "anti-statists"). So if statism is your thing, stay away. We will detect it anyway and kick you out Everybody who advocates an economy and a market is by definition a statist, since beyond the state and the society you won't find an economy or a market place. People who are living beyond the state live in self-sufficient communities. That's the difference to all those who 'live' in a society. The difference of citizens vs. humans. The citizen is a collectivist cartoon of the former human, the homo oeconomicus a cartoon of the homo sapiens. Most libertarians do not know anything of this historic reality. They are dreamers and apologists of the so called 'progress', which is nothing more than systematic destruction of the planet in exponentially increasing pace. |
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The point of this thread is to debate the future price direction of bitcoin, not to devolve into personal attacks against me. For those who want debate im all ears, but i have now put several posters on ignore, thanks. And any more that want to post pointless personal attacks will be put on ignore too
You can't debate somebody's predictions for the future without debating the track record of his predictions in the past. This is not a pointless attack of the person. It is questioning the performance of the methods of somebody. |
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