ROFL how is this supposed to work? Do they tattoo transactions on each other, or use cigarettes?

But now that I think about it, seriously, how the hell is this supposed to work?  They don't have phones, if they did, they could just have bitcoin.  Like, it's illegal for them to have phones/ computer access, if they use a proxy to enter transactions then again, might as well use bitcoin..

Ah! Concoin is soap on a rope!

Increase your fees for the time being. If you are coming off of an exchange, the fees are usually dynamic and you should be fine. But if you are coming out of a client wallet, set the fee setting up to max, especially if you use the network at a peak time (the middle of the day). If you want to send something cheap, send it in the middle of the night, less congestion means more chances to get included in a block faster. This is how everyone can help the congestion issue; it wouldn't be such a deal if the transactions didn't congregate.

Ahh, thanks for that, I suspected as much, it was really hectic and I couldn't get a response to a common inquiry (and everyone was too onery to answer me out of hand). I didnt stick around too long, figured they'd get to me eventually (it provisioned days before they touched the ticket). Was unusual for them, abysmal customer service. Banhammer was swinging as well, but that's all the time

 I see they bit off a little bit more than they could chew with the box; I'm honestly surprised it lasted as long as it did. It was a nightmare a CEX

LOL, I think they understand why it's called a trollbox now

Unless the account is going to yield interest, there is little incentive to store bitcoin with someone else, the security risk unless they offer insurance isn't worth it. It kind of defeats the basic purpose of storing bitcoin, which is that it rewards you for holding (its deflationary), and you don't have to pay a bank a service fee for that feature. ' It is a defect of fiat that it disappears slowly over time.' Thus, it's logical to have more motivation to save bitcoin than fiat.

Yezzir. While I'm always happy to see btc getting positive press, I really hope we don't get another investment boom that results in a collapse, like every other time bitcoin makes the news. It's like a signal for the whales to take massive profit and initiate a bear market. I can't believe the charts I have been looking at lately are sustainable. Major exposure at a time like this, might not actually be 100% good news

Let's pray the price keeps going north people, but plan accordingly.

Holy shit, they closed the trollbox down?!

I had a ticket that pended foreeeever when the withdrawals last stuck, I saw that the trollbox was alight with complaints but I didn't think anything of it. Users always get iraye when the wallets start acting up; its a fact if life. I'm assuming the user complaints must have gotten to be too much? The box has been a fud fest since it's inception; I can't see them shutting it down for liability reasons, or to stem speculation. I wonder if they will still keep hiring supports every few months anymore

What happened here? What was the official line on why they closed it?

Let's explore

Your generalization of the serpent symbol used in the Old Testament, specifically Genesis, is too broad. Old Testament snakes and dragons pretty much always refer to Satan, ESP if it speaks or us supernatural. It is also a symbol of wisdom (Satan's domain ).  Snakes or various types mean various things for different authors (note 'amongst vipers' vs 'bronze serpent, one indicates peril, on is an old name for a staff shaped amulet)

Now, if you want to spew some REAL rhetoric about America, you might want to look at Revelations.
Chapter 13, which addresses the fall of the 7 headed beast, could be talking about the papacy. In that case, prophesy would allow America is the 'beast with two horns that spake like a dragon'  (Rev 13:11).

There you go, and welcome to the Politics section. I have a feeling you are going to fit in just fine here

Fuck it, I'll bite.

Huh? Trying to follow you, in your other thread you identified Americans as serpents, which is hilarious by the way, but in this thread you have stated that American patriot are being killed by serpents, meaning other Americans? Please clarify, and thank you in advance

This, will end eventually. Not sure how long this charging bull market will continue on, we just tested 3k and we are hovering, if we continue to advance expect 4k, some retraction, then 5k.

And yes, politics and technology might up end the price, research the scaling debate (alot has happened depending on how long you have been gone)

And welcome back

I haven't seen a card like this, and I don't think many payment remitters would be willing to offer a product like this. It's too easy to simply get a credit line on a regular credit card, which will most likely have a higher limit, and pay the bill after the fact in bitcoin. You could even use a bitcoin debit card to pay the bitcoin credit bill, if you didn't have a way to convert the btc.to fiat.

A credit card that you can pay off in btc doesn't really have any advantages over a regular credit card, they would be the same instrument.

I love it when y'all say cuck!

But anyway, I do believe the mayor of a city in a separate, sovereign state should be able to dictate which foreign dignitaries can enter their territory. Imagine if Assad wanted to come to some small town to make a speech, and the mayor didn't support his regime and protested. I don't have a problem with that, essentially, we have to respect their sovereignty. At the very least, he should be able to suggest to the governing body/state his opinions. Failure to do so would be quite undemocratic.

Would he be responsible for municipal allocation of terror resources, or would this be a state level responsibility? That's a serious question, I don't know, actually.

See above post concerning my usage of neonazi. I'm not insinuating that Pro Russian ideologies are bad, I'm pointing out the lack of genuineness its recent adoption by certain parties (The GOP and the Anti Hillary/Soros Conspiracy camp). They were non issues before they became talking points in defense of the current administration. I'd prefer to see them go back to the way they were. I am not a Russaphobe, it a beautiful culture, seemingly cool people, and I like cold weather. More have a problem with thr But, it's clear a historic event has happened with the interference; Russia gets my respect for pulling this off, and I mean that sincerely. This took smarts, this took guts. But I can't condone a country that just attempted to sway my democracy, even if they didn't succeed. The attempt was enough, the insult has already been engendered.

I didn't see this earlier, I would have responded ASAP
I will concede to you, those were cheap shots in retrospect. I do apologize sir. I take a certain zeal in rejecting the truly harmful/irrational ideologies here, but it is close minded for me to reject an entire school of though because I don't agree with some of its parts. All things have a truth to them, even opposites.

Some of those critiques would stand, but that rhetoric was unkind

And I have never met a Neo Nazi in conversational distance, I have only observed what I suspect was a group of Neo Nazi youths, and only once. I will concede that as well. But, I am extremely versed in the ideological school, its contemporary manifestation at least and not all of the historical precedent that shapes it.


So my bad.

And fuck AntiFa's crazy ass. Black or White, Liberal or Conservative, if I get hit with a bottle of someone's piss, someone will have to die.

But the White House said that Trump's tweets are official government pronouncements, and thus, subject to the Presidential Records Act.

http://deadline.com/2017/06/sean-spicer-donald-trump-tweets-official-statements-by-president-live-tweet-comey-testimony-senate-intel-committee-white-house-press-briefing-1202108447/

President Donald Trump’s tweets “are considered official statements by the President of the United States,” because “the president is the President of the United States,” White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer explained patiently at Tuesday’s briefing. This after reporters asked him straight up if Trump’s tweets should be regarded as official White House statements.

One day later, Spicer boasted Trump’s commanding use of social media helped gain him the White House and that Trump now claims a collective total of close to 100M people across different social platforms.


So we should ignore 'official statements by the President of the United States'? I mean, he is the POTUS. Surely an official statement by the POTUS is 'serious news'?

I love it here, dammit.

Hehe, I think that's what some of the apologists are failing to see. The event in itself was just a tweet, everyone needs to man the fuck up, but diplomacy was shattered, that what the OP was trying to communicate in not so much English,LOL. Personally myself and a lot of Americans could give a flying fuck about this, but what we aren't aware of is how much this pissed London off, because they aren't our news cycle. The POTUS does not make a disparaging comment about another leader during an active crisis with international coverage. Imagine  if Bush had been criticized by the French president for reading a book to a class while the first towers were struck.

The mayor said that pretty plainly too, his statement wasn't ambiguous one bit. Don't be alarmed at the increased police presence. It takes a special one like 45 to misread the tone, respond at the wrong time, and then double down on said misinterpretation instead of apologizing.

This is covfefe, essentially. And I actually mean that seriously, not as a joke. It's the same attitude that gave us covfefe, at least. The reluctance to admit a mistake, a complete lack of diplomacy. Political correctness might be a toss up nowadays, but diplomacy should never be.

Also, shit like this simply looks bad. That's shit people's mothers should have taught them, there is no substitute for home training LOL.


“When you have a special relationship it is no different from when you have got a close mate. You stand with them in times of adversity but you call them out when they are wrong. There are many things about which Donald Trump is wrong.”

Trump’s tirade also appeared to act as a rebuke to the acting US ambassador to Britain, Lewis Lukens, who had put out a thread of tweets, culminating in a retweet of Khan’s statement.

“I commend the strong leadership of the mayor of London as he leads the city forward after this heinous attack,” the acting ambassador said.

In more normal times, such a message of solidarity with a host mayor in an allied state would be unremarkable, but it unleashed a torrent of online abuse from Trump’s supporters, accusing Lukens of disloyalty. Some focused on the fact that the acting ambassador was offering support for a foreign official who is Muslim, rather than echoing the president.

Take heed. This 'America First ' shit is going to have us at 'America Going It's Own Way'. The world is watching us hard right now, folks.

Edit: had to fix, I fucked the formatting up bigly on this one

Serious question, has your local/regional/national news reported on anything like Russian interference in this matter, specifically, that a Russian fake news story was the cause for all this?


http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/336638-us-suspects-russia-planted-fake-news-in-qatar-report

U.S. officials believe that Russian hackers planted a fake news story in Qatar's state news agency, contributing to tensions among key U.S. allies in the Gulf, CNN reported Tuesday, citing U.S. officials.

The FBI sent investigators to Doha recently to aid the Qatari government in probing the reported incident, officials told CNN.

U.S. officials said that intelligence indicated Russian hackers were behind the intrusion that Qatar's government reported two weeks ago, according to the network.

This is still kinda breaking news (everything takes foooorever nowadays with the current state of the news cycle), and I can't get enough consensus on this in my research to form a valid opinion.

Is this being discussed in your news, and how, if you care to elaborate? Thank you in advance for your time.

That's kind of the point. In all the anti Islam threads, there is a rush to generalization, the assumption that because individual adherents are part of a whole, that they are representative of the whole. For example, one of my favorite asshats on here went and made a protest thread rather than actually discuss the issue without denigrating into 'alulalu jihad'. It's like, why is it when one crazy motherfucker does some crazy shit, the group he belongs to denounces it, and he's a lone actor. But in the other case, despite how much his group denounces him, it will always be the groups fault.  That double standard in thinking is either borne of racism, fear, ignorance or a combination there of.

 Mass attribution from a lone actor is like me telling you that you are crooked because you used to run a pawn shop (I remember the threads ), and I've watched too many episodes of 'Pawn Stars'.

He arrived at an April 29 "free speech" march in Southeast Portland wearing a Revolutionary War flag as a cape. He carried a baseball bat. He threw Nazi salutes and shouted racial slurs in a Burger King parking lot. Twice, left-wing demonstrators grew so infuriated with his antics that Portland police officers formed a barrier to shield him.

The "alt-right" marchers even debated what to do about him. Some of them, leather-clad bikers, told him to shut up and tried to kick him out of the rally. Others seemed fine with him expressing himself: Unpopular speech was the point of the event.

On May 26, nearly a month later, Christian's hateful words allegedly turned into action.

He stands accused of murdering two men and wounding another who intervened as he harassed two teenage girls with an anti-Muslim screed on a Portland MAX train. Multiple witness accounts say he cut the throats of three men who confronted him.

Mayor Ted Wheeler has since asked for federal assistance to keep right-wing agitators from holding events scheduled in Portland. The leaders of local and national extremist groups known as the "alt-right" spent the weekend frantically trying to distance themselves from Christian, even as they refused to cancel a June 4 rally set for Terry Schrunk Plaza downtown.

No one claims him, yet he claims affiliation. So he is defined by his self affiliation. If he were a radical Islamist, he would be Muslim  because he said so, not because the Muslim plurality gave him that designation.

I want to be rich. Am I rich now?

Of course not. Just like this guy is clearly fucking insane. But why give this terrorist a pass for being a crazy head? And, why not attribute his actions to the alt right, his self affiliation?

Because that's just as fucking retarded as attributing the actions of a numbfuck terrorist in a turban to his whole religion.

Now, where this differs is another point of conversation. Hate groups like the violent alt right groups (now that we are having a serious discussion, I will plainly say all alt right isn't bad, it's an ideology like everything else.) get to operate under the guise of 'free speech'.

Imagine if a non violent group of ISIS apologists had a protest rally in Portland. I myself would travel out there to kick into some ass. We tolerate the one expression of free speech and decry the other. None of this shit should have quarter; in my opinion, that alt right extreme racism shit is just as odious as the ISIS fuck Westerners shit. Hate speech shouldnt have a platform, at least publically. It is the vehicle for radicalization..

But the truth of the matter is, statistically, if you are worried about terrorism and you are American, you have a way higher statistical chance of something like this happening to you. So I'm saying a lot of the anti Islam rhetoric is just a vehicle for people to spew racist shit. Because a real discussion on terror would include these topics, if it were comprehensive.

A serious price correction after the Japan craze dies down as a result of profit taking. This is indeed a bubble, if the price goes really South, like China, Japan may issue financial guidance to its citizens, or enact regulations. That will solidify the bear market for a while, we would see a serious regression, then new highs.

You are right, but you would be tax evading if you failed to report the capital gain that would be mining bitcoin, or acquiring bitcoin through trade. The literal definition of a 'capital gain'. Not worth it in my opinion. And seeing how they are trying to audit Coinbase for this very reason, I don't see it a stretch that they would eventually figure out they could audit pools as well. And unless you have a cash buyer for a living Income's worth of bitcoin, you are going to need to see an exchange that will require AML/KYC. That will be associated to your identity, and reported to the IRS as a matter of law.

You really can't avoid it. And if you do, it's obvious, and they don't look kindly on it.

It will be a bubble ESPECIALLY if institutional investors join the party. The growth of late has been simply unsustainable. If we got interest from an additional source beyond Japan and the subsequent FOMO buyers and newbies, we would go to 3500, then 1700. And Forbes would talk smack about bitcoin for at least 8 months.