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1201  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 14, 2022, 11:37:07 PM
Here are my bets tonight



Orlando Magic vs Charlotte Hornets

the Charlotte Hornets (3-11) will try to end their losing streak tonight against the Orlando Magic (4-9). This will be a close match so I am betting with the Hornets. Charlotte Hornets  is favored @ 1.83. Orlando Magics' odd is @2.03

Boston Celtics vs Oklahoma Thunder

Boston Celtics (10-3) is heavy favorite against Oklahoma Thunder (6-7). Celtics odds is @1.15 and Oklahoma Thunder  is @6.0. Celtics' main duo is both healthy and no way they will lose against the Thunder.

Golden State Warriors vs San Antonio Spurs

The San Antonio Spurs (6-7) will meet the Golden State Warriors (5-8) today at Chase Center. GSW is the favorite @1.23 odds while San Antonio Spurs @4.5. It is tempting to bet on the Spurs but I do not believe the Warriors will lose two in a row, especially to a rebuilding team.
1202  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Not Quitting only a break on: November 14, 2022, 08:11:08 PM
Gambling is a habit so difficult to stop

Through out my days as a  GAMBLER  I have seen and had  so many people who for some reason have decided in their mind that they want to stop Gambling but in the latter of things said I eventually  see them again  involving themselves in gambling acts.

So many people actually tell themselves lies and intend to keep going on with those lies and continue saying this popular quote "this time no more I have quit"

Except for  people that take the act of gambling for fun who are really not affected by gambling so many people have uttered these particular quote noted above 

It has come to my notice that these people don't actually know what to do. instead of saying that they have quit they should know that they are actually  going on a gambling break..

It depends on how deep the addiction to gambling is. If a person is addicted to gambling already, he will have a hard time quitting on his own. There should be an outside factor that will force him to stop gambling for a long time and develop another habit that will replace gambling. Friends, relatives, and loved ones are a great help to keep addicted gamblers from coming back to gamble.

While moderate gamblers will find it easy to give up gambling because they have not developed the habit yet and they are not addicted yet. These people can quit on their own.

I think I can quit on my own whenever I wanted to quit gambling. I am not that addicted to gambling.

Gambling is a habit so difficult to stop
But not impossible. If you do some search I am of the opinion that you will still find people that have stopped the so difficult habit with help and discipline. Stopping has to be a strong resolution, something that you are determined to do. If you know stopping gambling will be difficult to achieve, you can reduce the number of times you gamble, till when you can go some days without considering it, and then you make the final decision to stop since it has become possible to go days without it. Quitting is a gradual process.

You are right. It may take time and a lot of effort, but it is not impossible. It is always doable as long as you have the will to do it and a supportive community that will help you gradually get away from gambling.
1203  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 14, 2022, 03:27:21 PM
The Asia Pacific Predator League 2022 for Dota 2 didn't made that much noise since this is just for mostly SEA teams.

Link: https://liquipedia.net/dota2/Asia_Pacific_Predator_League/2022

It has ended and the grand finals winner is the team Polaris. While the 2nd place goes to the Execration. The prize money on this tournament looks good but only for the 3 teams placed at the top.

I am not even sure if Stake picked up these games for betting. I was not aware of this tournament. If I was aware I could have made some bet and posted it here.

Anyway, no major tournament for esports for a few months. I guess this thread will be silent for a while until the next major.

Any news when is the next big tournament for CS, DOTA, or LoL?
1204  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 14, 2022, 03:22:22 PM
I still believe that both Warriors and Lakers will make it to play-offs and I'm surely they will find a way to do it.

It's still too early to tell, for the Warriors I believe they will, but for the Lakers, it's questionable for me.

I do not know what is wrong with the warriors and why they are losing lately but on paper, they are supposed to be a strong team. Maybe there is too much offense in their team that defense is already neglected. They are giving the opponent too many scores. This season they are 119.2 opponent points per game. They are the highest so far. This shows how lacking they are in defense.

The Lakers are questionable to me too. At the rate they are going, they will not make it to the playoffs. They may not even make it to the play-in. They need drastic changes to their roster in order to improve their standing.


The Lakers desperately need LeBron, but it's obvious that he should fully recover first. Otherwise, he risks aggravating his injury again. So it would be quite expected if he missed the upcoming game against the Nets. Of course, we can't rule out that it might be a close game, although I'm more inclined to think that the Lakers could lose their 6th game in a row.

Actually, the Lakers still have a good game, but they just can't close games. They had a good game against the Kings and only lose by 6 points. Westbrook is performing well with 21 points and 11 assists. They could still beat the Nets if Westbrook, AD, and Walker continues to have good game. They just need to figure out not having that 3rd quarter woes and close games.

It seems you predicted how the game would end mate, the 3 players you've mentioned end up doing great and became the reasons why they defeated the Nets despite being named as an underdog because Lebron James is not playing with them. I like the game earlier and hopefully the Lakers will remember what they did because it's not about who will lead them, it's about teamwork just like earlier and that almost all of them are passing and touching the ball to find the right player to do the attack. What they showed earlier is the exact performance they need, Loonie Walker could be your best shooter if you will find him the right spot.


I predicted it alright, but I still lose my bet. Too bad for me, I did not trust my own analysis Cheesy
1205  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 14, 2022, 07:47:46 AM
Yes, but the most important is they already have a twice-to-beat advantage. Big win by converge, they are not tired of winning as they are keeping the win streak. This is so far the best conference, they should keep their import for the next conferences, just like what Ginebra did to Brownlee.

The top 4 can still move since Magnolia still has 4 games left and Ginebra 5 games left. Top 2 is not yet secured so they are not yet secured of twice-to-beat advantage. But the top 3, Magnolia, Dragons, and Converge already secured a playoff spot. The rankings can still be rearranged.

Magnolia has a tough schedule. Their next matches are San Miguel, Bay Area Dragons, Meralco Bolts, and Rain or Shine. These are tough teams to beat and Rain or Shine and San Miguel needs to win to earn a playoff spot. So, expect them to give Magnolia a tough game.
1206  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 14, 2022, 07:21:12 AM
The Brooklyn Nets play is just too obvious. Just don't let Durant get the ball and all is well.  Grin
The Lakers won thanks to that lack of ball rotation from them. Plus, AD is superb today as he leads the team with 37 points and 18 rebounds.
This is the Lakers that I want to see, transition plays, everyone touching the ball to get their rhythm, and letting everyone contribute on both ends of the floor.
They did a great job even without Lebron, I hope this continues.


Davis is a monster tonight, with 37 points and 18 rebounds. That is the Davis that the Lakers needed. Westbrook is mediocre again this game with just 14 points and 12 assists. Walker and Austin Reaves are great help with 25 and 15 points respectively. And just like that my bet with the Nets loses again. Just like I said earlier, if the Lakers played like how they played against the Kings, they have a chance to beat Durant. And they did.

When Lebron is back, things will change and it will be his style that will be implemented. Although Lebron is just a player but he only acts as a couch sometimes, it's not too obvious though but that's what I'm seeing. Good job by the Lakers, winning is very important for them to be in the playoffs spot.

You are probably right. The rotation will change back to what it was before when Lebron is back in the rotation. Hopefully, even if he comes back, the ball movement will not be gone. I know he needs to chase stats and score to be the number 1 all-time scorer, but I hope he put prioritize winning rather than his stats.
1207  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 13, 2022, 11:44:35 PM
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Another game for Lakers tomorrow morning but I don't see them winning against Nets who are playing great without Irving but they could play even better with him on the squad...but who knows when we will see Irving back.
I lost betting against the Nets last time so I'm taking them this time hehe. I think handicap odds at -6.5 can be covered.

Irving is still suspended based on some news reports and that is probably a good thing. He's looking forward to playing again they say but most fans are probably happier that he's on the sideline.

Irving is still not playing tonight against the Lakers, but Curry is picking up the slack he left. Surprisingly, they are performing better now. Ben Simmons is still not reliable with just 2 points and 3 assists against the Clippers. Kevin Durant will have to do the heavy lifting to carry his team against the Lakers. If Lebron suddenly decided to play, our bets will be in big trouble. I also bet on Nets but Moneyline only. I believe this will be a close game.

The Lakers desperately need LeBron, but it's obvious that he should fully recover first. Otherwise, he risks aggravating his injury again. So it would be quite expected if he missed the upcoming game against the Nets. Of course, we can't rule out that it might be a close game, although I'm more inclined to think that the Lakers could lose their 6th game in a row.

Actually, the Lakers still have a good game, but they just can't close games. They had a good game against the Kings and only lose by 6 points. Westbrook is performing well with 21 points and 11 assists. They could still beat the Nets if Westbrook, AD, and Walker continues to have good game. They just need to figure out not having that 3rd quarter woes and close games.
1208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 13, 2022, 11:23:50 PM
That was a great show from Outsiders. This is why I'm not trusting enough of Heroic when they won against FURIA. They have their moments, but somehow they're not stable enough to win consistently. Congrats to Outsiders who literally outgunned, outmaneuvered, and outclassed Heroic in just 2 maps. You can tell that these guys grind so hard because of how smooth everything is in their execution and their retakes. 16-5 in OVP is really depressing for Heroic, considering that that map is heavily CT sided, and they didn't make something great out of it.

I already saw how good they are in the game when they played C9 in the quarterfinals. They are very adept in the game, and they move as one. Jame's mechanical skills are also top notch. I know they could win against Heroic, I just did not expect them to dominate them this much. Heroic did not have much to show in Overpass. They were massacred in that map. I thought they could turn around when they switch sides and it is Heroics turn on CT but they could not do anything against Outsiders. Outsiders deserve to lift the trophy.

In Mirage, Heroic was still able to give a good fight but in Overpass, they are totally overwhelmed by Outsiders.

Now I feel stupid for taking Heroic to win the grand finale though. I totally would have gone with Outsiders to win or normal circumstances but Heroic was impressive yesterday against Furia so I thought they would have a solid chance to pull this one off again. I wished it was 3 maps though because I had another bet on over 2.5 maps but its just silly


Heroic already achieved too much. Defeating Team Liquid in the Legends stage, then Team Spirit in the quarterfinals before dropping Furia in the Semis. It is not a bad achievement. Outsiders just have better mechanical skills, coordination, and understanding of the game. It is just not yet Heroic's time to be champion this year.
1209  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 13, 2022, 09:04:15 PM
IEM RIO MAJOR has now concluded.

Congratulations to OUTSIDERS for bagging the IEM RIO Major 2022.

They should great mechanical skills and complete understanding of the game. They put Heroic into a clinic as they overpowered them in both maps Mirage and Overpass.

In Mirage, Heroic was still able to give a good fight but in Overpass, they are totally overwhelmed by Outsiders. Jame is extra great in the finals. He is a monster.
1210  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 13, 2022, 06:55:24 PM
We will have the game between Los Angeles Lakers vs Brooklyn Nets.
Anyone else looking forward to watch this game!!?

In the last games without Kyrie Irving, the Nets got some considerable victories, will they now stay with that performance and beat the Lakers? (although lately the Lakers have been performing poorly)

I am not sure if Lebron is still out for this game. He is listed Day-to-day so there is a chance he will not be playing tonight again. If that is so, I am guessing that the Nets have a better chance of winning this game. It might be a close game though because I have seen that the Lakers had a good performance against the Kings, short of winning the game. If they perform like that again against the Nets, they might have a chance to win against Durant.


Wow! Celtics are back in that godlike form from last year play-offs and if they keep playing like this and if Tatum keep putting scores like this , I think Celtics has a massive chance again to fight to Play-offs finals and then NBA finals once more.

Yea, and the Celtics are just warming up but it is expected that they will play more impressively because they are now a much experienced team and the fact that they've reached far last season made them more stronger this season. Currently, they are on their 6th win streak, maybe they could surpass the Bucks streak this season.

The playoffs of the East will be epic with Celtics at their prime and Bucks on their prime as well. Giannis is a complete player right now and with his team, they will reach great heights. Jayson Tatum and Jalen Brown are also on their peak right now and this duo is almost unstoppable. It would be great if this two teams will end up in the Eastern Conference Finals.
1211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: November 13, 2022, 06:21:54 PM
You already won the first game, Dragons won and covered the high spread. Unto the 2nd game, a hot converge vs ROS, I think I'm going to bet on the underdog here due to a very attractive odds, I'm waiting for a live game and wait until Converge will take a decent lead, then I will hammer the ROS ML.
The game between ROS and Converge are pretty close, getting into the second half is hard to place a bet. This may take a lot of risk for you already but it looks more interesting. If ROS can maintain their lead and good composure in the second quarter, they can have a better chance of winning here. I miss to place a bet before the game start so I wont take any risk for now and just enjoy watching the game, I still see Converge to win here.

ROS now is leading with 14 points, so most likely they will win this game. Converge is on a huge run already, maybe they are a bit tired now and they will give this game to the Converge. Anyway, even if they'll lose, they still have a good standing.

Well, Converge is not ready to give up the fight and lose their win streak just yet. They made a big 4th quarter run that the ROS did not find an answer to. They were able to win the game 102-101.

Converge improves to 8-2 with a 7-win streak. They are now tied with Bay Area Dragons with the same record. Rain or Shine slides to 4-6.
1212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 13, 2022, 05:51:18 PM
I have been losing lately with my parlay so I will limit it to just 2 matches in the meantime.

Here is my bet for today.



Sacramento Kings vs Golden State Warriors

The Golden State Warriors (5-7) were in a slump lately, but they are now getting back on track. They won their last two games and are on the verge of getting a winning streak. The Warriors are favorite @1.56 against the Sacramento Kings (5-6) @2.50.

Los Angeles Lakers vs Brooklyn Nets

The Brooklyn Nets (6-7) are going against another LA team tonight, the Los Angeles Lakers (2-10). They won against the Clippers last night and are now poised to take down the Los Angeles Lakers tonight. Lebron is doubtful in tonight's game so they will rely on Westbrook and AD to win against the Nets. They did well against the Kings but were still not able to secure the win. While the Nets seem to be performing well without Kyrie.
1213  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 13, 2022, 05:26:23 PM
That loss from FURIA reminded me of Cloud9's series, from another potential 2-0 but the momentum from Heroic suddenly kicks in during OT then it just kept on going heading into Nuke.

After watching both series today, it's tough to pick a team to win the grand finals when both of them showed a dominant T side in the decider map. Outsiders @2.00 would be the value bet but I want to take Heroic @1.7 after their grueling series against FURIA.

That was surprising. I thought Furia already had it in the bag. I was not able to finish watching the game, but Furia was in the lead, so I thought they already got the slot for the finals. But I checked now, and I see Heroic won the second map and third. This might have disappointed the crowd, but I guess they will support heroic on the finals. They cheered for Heroic on their match against team Spirit. I guess the crowd will support them again against the Outsiders.

But for the finals, I will bet on Outsiders to win the game. They are more strategic in every map they play. Heroic is favorite @1.67 while Outsiders is @2.12. I like the odds of Outsiders.
1214  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Lost 270 dollar in roullete plan on revenge on: November 12, 2022, 11:22:02 PM

When i cane back they  closesd he casino they lucky to close before i play again i had all my adrelaine and mood to win and bankrupt them.
Tomorrow i visit them again and take what is mine.


I do not think that the casino is lucky that they are closed. I think you got lucky the casino is closed. With that kind of mentality, you are going to get wiped off your money. Usually in gambling, when you are forcing yourself to win back the money you lost, you lose more money. You have no control if you are going to win or not in a casino. Most games are luck based so if you are forcing for revenge, your luck runs dry. You will just lose more money.

Anyway, hope you did not come back the next day with the same mentality. Just let go of your losses and enjoy the game. Don't stress yourself since you said that you already gain some of the money lost in other games.

Good luck with your gambling.
1215  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 12, 2022, 11:12:47 PM
Warriors are really a big mess this season. They have won only 5 of their 12 games so far. Steph Curry is actually incredible still. They won their last two games and Curry scored 40+ points in both of them. He is giving his best for the team as usual but the team effort doesn't seem to be satisfying for now.

On the other hand this two-game winning streak might be a sign of a recovery maybe. To tell the truth I don't expect Warriors to fail in qualifying for playoffs this season. But if they keep an inconsistent performance then I won't be favouring them for the championship this time. Things are going well for Celtics now too. Maybe they can finish their incomplete job and reach the championship this season who knows.  Grin

They were not favorite last year but they won anyway, so I am not giving up on the warriors yet. It is too early to tell that they are not going to win the ring. They still have a good roster that can win any game. I think they just need to fine tune their plays and adjust it to better fit their current roster. Jordan Poole is still in a shooting woes and once he gets out of it, he will be a big help for the big 3 of the warriors.

The Clippers hosting Nets will be a good game to watch later. The visiting team will be without Kyrie again but they've been getting better results as we've seen in their last four games. Which team are you going for? I'm taking Clippers on ML. Odds at 1.84 looks good since they've been playing well lately too.

I agree that the Nets vs Clippers game is the best game of the day. I won’t be able to watch it because I don’t have that channel so I won’t be betting on it. I’m not sure I’d know who to bet anyway. I’m assuming Kawhi and John Wall won’t be playing and with Kyrie out and Ben Simmons still struggling, it’s like a match up of the most inconsistent teams in the league. I hope they can both manage to get things figured out before too much longer.

Brooklyn is currently on the lead by 3 with 6 minutes left in the game. I bet on brooklyn to win this game and hoping that Kevin Durant will be able to carry the team over the kawhi less Clippers. John wall is playing so I am not sure if the brooklyn can keep their lead. I am hoping for the best.
1216  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 12, 2022, 10:52:23 PM
Outsiders has locked in a slot for the finals. They have beaten Mouz after 3 maps. I thought they would take it in just 2 maps, but Mouz was able to come back on Overpass and forced a third map. But their effort was not enough because Outsiders dominated them in Inferno. Outsiders are very intelligent players and their tactics worked very well against Mouz.



Furia is currently leading in the first map against Heroic. And as usual, the crowd is going wild chanting for Furia. The crowd is really powering Furia and as usual Kscerato is performing very well again in front of his countrymen.

My only sensible take for the Furia phenomena is to bet 3 maps because Heroic can surely put up enough resistance for that as can Furia and I think whoever wins does not do so easily.
  I'll keep the game on in mobile and hop in for a Furia bet if they lose map like what happened with vs Navi but so far both teams are being competitive imo.

That is a logical bet. I also think Heroic can take this to a third map. 


1217  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NBA 2020-2021 betting on: November 12, 2022, 05:31:39 PM
My bets for today



Los Angeles Clippers vs Brooklyn Nets

I expect that the match between Los Angeles Clippers (7-5) and Brooklyn Nets (5-7) will be a close game. Brooklyn will have to rely to Kevin Durant to carry the team against Clippers. They will be missing Kyrie in this game while the Clippers will be missing Kawhi.

Washington Wizard vs Utah Jazz

Utah Jazz (10-3) will visit Washington Wizard (6-6) in their game tonight. Utah Jazz is favorite in this game. Utah has won 2 out of 3 games that they are favorite. They are looking to extend their winning streak into 5 wins.


Detroit Pistons vs Boston Celtics

Detroit Pistons (3-10) will defend their arena against the Boston Celtics (9-3) tonight. The Boston Celtics is looking to extend their winning streak into 6 against the Pistons. They are heavily favorite to win this game and I think they can do it. They win 75% of the time they are named odds favorite.
1218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: November 12, 2022, 04:59:12 PM
Have you guys noticed the massive calls of the officials regarding the "ball carry"? Jordan Poole is mostly whistled on this.
I am glad they are getting stricter in the dribbling section because many players are trying to get away from it.

Is that a new rule? They do not usually call that before this season, but they are doing it now. Or are they just getting stricter in that section of basketball? Which is okay for me as long as it is called consistently throughout the league.

No hope for the Lakers now. The help that LeBron needs is no longer being filled up by the players who's surrounding him.
unlike with Miami and Cavs where he was surrounded by role players.

Same with the bubble where he played with those role players, but the management trade them and instead of keeping
them all for another title.

And also, the teams are now tougher than the previous season, teams are developing good system to establish good
chemistries to be more competitive.

Well, that is what you get when you trade all your role players and draft picks for a superstar. You put all your eggs in one basket. But for the Lakers, their basket is not producing for them. They could still get back in the game this season if they can get some good role players, particularly, shooters that can space the floor and players that can make their own shots off the dribble. Since their stars can't carry the team, then they have to let go at least one for the role players that they need.

1219  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 12, 2022, 01:29:29 PM
Well...I've said that RIO crowd will push Furia towards the finals and so far they are doing it but Kaserato is on a god tier level right now and I cannot see him missing his shots in the semi-finals today against Heroic. Furthermore , there is a small revenge here for Brasil as Heroic is a german team and if you watch the twitch chat , whenever a team has 7-1 the entire chat will start typing "Br71L". With this being said , Furia will reach the finals. Grin

And they did. A few times now that I saw Furia almost losing the game and they were able to comeback and win because of the encouragement of the crowd. I am now thinking they could win Rio Major because of the support of the crowd. Maybe Kscerato is so good because he is playing in a Brazillian crowd and he is so motivated because of the crowd.




Outsiders vs Mouz later with Outsiders being the favorite @ 1.62. Though Outsiders is the favorite, I am betting on Mousesports this time. They are solid this major and I think they will be playing in the finals.

Heroic will be going against the crowd favorite, Furia this time. Will Heroic continue their epic journey and go to the finals or will Furia power through the finals? Both have good momentum beating Top teams going to the semi-finals. I am not going to bet on this one because I cannot really tell which team is better. They even have an equal odds on stake @ 1.87. Maybe just go with over 2.5 maps since this match will go the distance.

1220  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🕹️ Esports 🎮 Prediction & Discussion Thread on: November 12, 2022, 12:02:38 AM
Furia vs Navi can that goto 3 maps.  People are getting a bit carried away to suggest Furia can win the entire major apparently, shouldnt happen but home advantage can make anything possible.  I'll go with 3 maps for fun, arguably betting 0-2 for Navi win is nicer odds at 2.65x

Navi is much better than Furia for sure so taking 0-2 for Navi isnt really a bad one somehow. I took Furia to win though, personally love the odds better and I honestly think this could go either side so I took this one. 3rd game on 1st map and currently both are pretty even right now but not gonna lie, Navi seems to be better though


You cannot deny the influence of the crowd against Navi and for Furia. They were able to tie the series, 1 map a piece. They are now in their 3rd map, and they are performing quite well. They are toe in toe against Navi in Mirage. This series could go either way. Let's see if your bet would pay off. The crowd is very supportive of Furia and that could power them to win against a powerhouse like Navi.

The crowd is with them but we'll see if this crowd would be disappointed after the next map. I saw them disappointed and gave dirty hands to simple because simple taunted them.  Grin

The crowd is very supportive of Furia since the challenger's stage. I think it is bad to taunt the crowd because that is just a distraction. They lost the second map, and they could lose the third map. Furia is in the lead right now and the crowd is going wild.
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