Noob here!
What value do you guys estimate that DRK will go to?
Thanks!
Drawingthesun, is a long time detractor, and supports other anon coins, as you can see by his unsubstantiated response. Although nobody can give you an accurate price prediction, you are coming at a good time since Darkcoin has gone through an speculation cycle recently, it seems like current pricing is a very solid base of longer term investors supporting the coin, this is a very good entry point as it is very unlikely people will dump from this price. Darkcoin all time high is around 15USD so you are buying at a good point with great growth potential, from a technical perspective, we are expecting an external review by Kristov Atlas to come out in the next couple of weeks, to know all the plans of the development team check out the official announcements from darkcointalk.org focus on the ones coming from eddufield the lead developer of the project: https://darkcointalk.org/forums/official-announcements.54/ Darkcoin may never reach it's all time high again. That high was just an example of a successful pump and dump. I would like to thank all the pumpers for allowing me to tag along and make a significant profit from trading drk. The bitcoin I made is being put to good use. I tried the masternode thing for a week and was rewarded a measly 4.5 drk. I dumped the 1000 drk, bought back at a lower price 15 minutes later for a profit of 75 drk in 15 minutes. I doubt that I will be setting up a masternode again. I can't justify tying up the btc to earn $10 in a week when I can earn 15 time that in 15 minutes with a couple trades. Oh, I bought and sold those original 1000 drk I dumped from the masternode I was running several times since yesterday and now have 1203 drk sitting on the exchange. That's 203 drk made in a day vs 4.5 made in a week. Some people might be content with the meager profits earned from running a masternode but I prefer to maximize my profits and most likely won't be tying my capital up just to support the DRK network. Just like the majority of altcoins, drk is basically nothing more than a coin to sell on the pumps and buy on the dumps. Time it right and you'll make lots of btc. Go DRK! Looks like I made a sound investment decision when I decided to shut off the masternode and liquidate the drk when the value was much higher than it is now. If I choose to do so I can buy right back in at a much lower price. Running the masternode was basically just a weeks worth of missed opportunities for the capital I had tied up. 4.5 drk in a week. Pathetic. I feel sorry for those that have been drinking the drk koolaid and are either underwater or have missed out on much more profitable investment opportunities. |
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I don't want to sound like a whiner, but I'm going to whine, LOL. I don't get it, why is lightcoin worth $5.50+ right now? What the heck? Why? And darkcoin in a hole... yah.... And I really wish I understood statistics so I could figure out what the chances of being found out are for 3, 5 and 8 rounds of darksend? Finally, I agree with the guys above. Auditing takes a long time if you do a thorough job of it, and we (the community) wanted a job well done. Kristov has a moral obligation to us, foremost and primarily. His coins are his to do with as he likes, including selling off asap if he thinks they're not up to snuff so he can cash in before he sends in his verdict. How else are we going to pay him? This makes his obligation to us, though he gives his report to our CEO, our CEO did not pay him, and shouldn't control his loyalty, we should. Now I have a crazy idea. What would happen if you could, along with denominating your coins as it is now, darksend them with a front end mixer like it was? Man, I'd think that would be incredibly messed up! How could anyone/thing follow the bread crumb trail then? Also, I think I glimpsed a question about the blockchain getting bigger. Yah, I think it'll probably be getting.... guessing.... 5% bigger/faster than a "normal" block chain (pulling out of my @$$, but...) But the thing is, we're planning to have masternodes serve up the blockchain for our users (also will still need to be on hand for miners) So eventually, users will only need to use a lightweight blockchain while the miners and masternodes will keep the ledger decentralized and in check. (and of course, anyone else who wishes to keep a copy). Also, stonehedge, anyone could at least study the way DS works, or get someone they trust to look into it and get at least the idea reviewed for themselves. True, you can't see if the code has flaws, but you can extensively test it in testnet (without any risks) and see how it performs. So I think your financial dude is a bit myopic and not seeing the big picture. We are also a small community here. We know whom we trust (really trust) and it's as good as we can get it. Yet, I'll bet my life, yes my life, that we as a community can figure out whom to trust better than any business out there in the "normal world". All pump and dumpers are scammers trying to bleed newbs. That's the only way money gets into the system for them to win. They always hurt crypto coins when they do that as well, all cryptos. But there are bad players everywhere, and I dare say the subject is easily written on every wall, all over the floors and on the ceilings, so anyone who gets burned in that game should have known better. Point being, we have all kinds here, yet as in the real world (outside cryptos) we, as a whole, can figure out what's what  I think you're on the right lines TanteStefana but the thing is that for us to succeed with DRK, we need to attract people who might not necessarily know what a code review or open source is or actually means. These are the kind of people who need to be able to see an easy to use service and not need to know about how masternodes work or understand what Kristov comes out with. These are the people who need a method of payment like Darkcoin and decide to use it. Unfortunately, these are the people most at risk of FUD in my opinion. As for my banker friend, as JGCMiner points out, he has probably missed an opportunity to get in relatively early and as you point out he is being a touch myopic but that is the way he has to be. He isn't your average joe DRK user, he wants to buy 20k or 30k DRK and sit on them for a few years. For him to invest a similar amount into a startup business (which is his second hobby, after driving up London property prices) he would need to see a code review by somebody who didn't have a vested interest in the success of the business. Myopic for sure but rest assured that my banker friend (MBF from now on!) misses plenty of opportunities and also makes plenty of bad investments too. He has his rules and sticks to them. One of his rules is that compliance is non negotiable. I noted a few people up thread saying companies pay for auditors to come in and always will. That is correct but this is slightly different in that the auditor is independent and being rewarded by the potential success of the product he is auditing. It is not the same as Evan saying here's $2k to come and do a code audit. This is the DRK community inadvertently saying please come and review our code and if its good, you will earn a lot more money than if its bad. This is not cool in the real world. I only really raised it as an issue on this thread because I'm not sure if people realise what it could look like to potential investors/service users who might consider getting involved with DRK when they hear of it but don't know who Eduffield is and don't know their masternodes and DRK community from their asses. Anyway, this current low price stability is reassuring and I'm just frustrated that I'm as invested as I possibly can be and not have a divorce on my hands  The code review will be of value to darkcoin and to the community but I doubt it is going to attract much outside attention. This will come after RC5 when Evan and his compadres launch their marketing machine into full swing. We're still testing a new service and we are privileged to be involved so early on. Last time I contributed on here I caused offence by insinuating that some people were liars because they were reporting lost funds and bugs on here but refusing to report them to bitcointalk or on Jira. Sorry if I have caused any offence by opening a discussion on the code review. S ometimes it is good to look at something that you have emotional and financial investment in with an independent with experience (like MBF). I was just reporting back on his thoughts. For what its worth, he loves the masternode concept and will keep an eye on things in the future. I think he has a DRK price ticker on his phone and google news alerts set up now when doge is up 25% you know crypto is still a play ground and action is around the corner.. I would like to see the statistics on how many got into crypto before the age of 20. It does make sense.. DRK will be repumped since it's the perfect candidate. When DRK actually gets repumped for real I say bye bye 50$wroom....eeeeYhhrR Crash moon thx bye. As statistics shows you are not succesful as a trader if you are not learning how to trade downtrend, Crypto is for making money - The Miners. Crypto is for supporting and being a part of a righteous future. I'm rich. I don't care. I will play for this amount, these mind sets are currently in majority hence they are sitting with the money. The money that entered one way leaves in another, with dynamic tempus which is. If you are not init for the fundamentals you are either in it for the money, or money and fundamentals. IF you are in it for the money you will do good. If you are init for the money and fundamentals - you are a weak hand; you will trade with your heart and will switch crytpo as a teenage girl gets crushes on gay boy bands. You do not know how to trade in a downtrend and always greed out at a loss. If you are init for the fundamentals simply put up your node and go meditate. Repumped? So you agree that drk is a pump and dump? |
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I don't want to sound like a whiner, but I'm going to whine, LOL. I don't get it, why is lightcoin worth $5.50+ right now? What the heck? Why? And darkcoin in a hole... yah.... And I really wish I understood statistics so I could figure out what the chances of being found out are for 3, 5 and 8 rounds of darksend? Finally, I agree with the guys above. Auditing takes a long time if you do a thorough job of it, and we (the community) wanted a job well done. Kristov has a moral obligation to us, foremost and primarily. His coins are his to do with as he likes, including selling off asap if he thinks they're not up to snuff so he can cash in before he sends in his verdict. How else are we going to pay him? This makes his obligation to us, though he gives his report to our CEO, our CEO did not pay him, and shouldn't control his loyalty, we should. Now I have a crazy idea. What would happen if you could, along with denominating your coins as it is now, darksend them with a front end mixer like it was? Man, I'd think that would be incredibly messed up! How could anyone/thing follow the bread crumb trail then? Also, I think I glimpsed a question about the blockchain getting bigger. Yah, I think it'll probably be getting.... guessing.... 5% bigger/faster than a "normal" block chain (pulling out of my @$$, but...) But the thing is, we're planning to have masternodes serve up the blockchain for our users (also will still need to be on hand for miners) So eventually, users will only need to use a lightweight blockchain while the miners and masternodes will keep the ledger decentralized and in check. (and of course, anyone else who wishes to keep a copy). Also, stonehedge, anyone could at least study the way DS works, or get someone they trust to look into it and get at least the idea reviewed for themselves. True, you can't see if the code has flaws, but you can extensively test it in testnet (without any risks) and see how it performs. So I think your financial dude is a bit myopic and not seeing the big picture. We are also a small community here. We know whom we trust (really trust) and it's as good as we can get it. Yet, I'll bet my life, yes my life, that we as a community can figure out whom to trust better than any business out there in the "normal world". All pump and dumpers are scammers trying to bleed newbs. That's the only way money gets into the system for them to win. They always hurt crypto coins when they do that as well, all cryptos. But there are bad players everywhere, and I dare say the subject is easily written on every wall, all over the floors and on the ceilings, so anyone who gets burned in that game should have known better. Point being, we have all kinds here, yet as in the real world (outside cryptos) we, as a whole, can figure out what's what Actually if the SEC is serious about crypto falling under SEC rules and guide-lines....If Kristov Atlas was to find that DRK had an issue and then sold his coins before he made the annoucment, he would be commiting a felony. Selling his coins after the annoucment would not be an issue as he would be in the same market as the rest of us. Attempting to make a profit on insider knowledge is illegal. I seriously doubht he would take that risk. Committing a felony? Oh brother. He can say anything he wants, sell anything he wants whenever he wants and there would be no penalties. Altcoins are not regulated by the SEC so insider trading laws do not apply. He could find a trojan horse, key logger, etc... say nothing about it and there is nothing anyone could do. |
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Noob here!
What value do you guys estimate that DRK will go to?
Thanks!
Drawingthesun, is a long time detractor, and supports other anon coins, as you can see by his unsubstantiated response. Although nobody can give you an accurate price prediction, you are coming at a good time since Darkcoin has gone through an speculation cycle recently, it seems like current pricing is a very solid base of longer term investors supporting the coin, this is a very good entry point as it is very unlikely people will dump from this price. Darkcoin all time high is around 15USD so you are buying at a good point with great growth potential, from a technical perspective, we are expecting an external review by Kristov Atlas to come out in the next couple of weeks, to know all the plans of the development team check out the official announcements from darkcointalk.org focus on the ones coming from eddufield the lead developer of the project: https://darkcointalk.org/forums/official-announcements.54/ Darkcoin may never reach it's all time high again. That high was just an example of a successful pump and dump. I would like to thank all the pumpers for allowing me to tag along and make a significant profit from trading drk. The bitcoin I made is being put to good use. I tried the masternode thing for a week and was rewarded a measly 4.5 drk. I dumped the 1000 drk, bought back at a lower price 15 minutes later for a profit of 75 drk in 15 minutes. I doubt that I will be setting up a masternode again. I can't justify tying up the btc to earn $10 in a week when I can earn 15 time that in 15 minutes with a couple trades. Oh, I bought and sold those original 1000 drk I dumped from the masternode I was running several times since yesterday and now have 1203 drk sitting on the exchange. That's 203 drk made in a day vs 4.5 made in a week. Some people might be content with the meager profits earned from running a masternode but I prefer to maximize my profits and most likely won't be tying my capital up just to support the DRK network. Just like the majority of altcoins, drk is basically nothing more than a coin to sell on the pumps and buy on the dumps. Time it right and you'll make lots of btc. Go DRK! |
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twoturtles is a known developer and he doesn't have any of the ipo btc until 3 days after everything promised is released...second go inform yourself before saying premine lololol anyhow my buys are all over from 7500 up to 9000 so feel free to pass them off to me The only success conditions that have to be met are: working wallet block explorer trading integration inside wallet The coin can be worth 1 satoshi and if those conditions are met the dev will get the btc. bro if you don't trust the dev then just don't buy... or sell ...to me , twoturtles will surprise you all, i understand everyone is cautious these days so you'll just have to wait till he earns the trust.. What did my post have to do with trusting the dev? I stated a fact. Nothing more. |
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twoturtles is a known developer and he doesn't have any of the ipo btc until 3 days after everything promised is released...second go inform yourself before saying premine lololol anyhow my buys are all over from 7500 up to 9000 so feel free to pass them off to me The only success conditions that have to be met are: working wallet block explorer trading integration inside wallet The coin can be worth 1 satoshi and if those conditions are met the dev will get the btc. |
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More aggressive challenges. I have a serious problem. I don't know how to engage in a decent way. Somewhere way way back I decided that attacking people that threaten my ego's little view of who I am is the best course of action (even though deep down I know this is wrong). Instead of working in with a team of people, I throw mud and shit at them, but I don't go away and find other people I can respect and demonstrate care for, I just keep coming back again and again to do more damage and throw my weight around. Oh wretch that I am! Geez I'm sick...
Shojayxt, you're one of those destructive people that's a "bad apple". Anyone that's ever managed a team or lead a group knows that, while you may occasionally offer some input that's useful (even worthy of consideration) your overarching modus operandi is one of destabilisation, disruption and self aggrandizement. If you were in a team I was managing, I would remove you because you're not adding here, you're just taking away. And, although you are obviously intelligent and have something of value to offer, your intense need to put everyone else down and make out how smart you are is a thorn in the side of this community that does no one any good. That you have been putting shit on DRK and this community for months but now you've set up an MN is testament to your addiction to coming here and being an arsehole. I expect you wake up each morning not feeling very good about what you do....but you just can't stop doing it. Get help my friend. There's way too much good in the world passing you by to spend your days being like this. The world isn't passing me by and you know it. I'm currently enjoying an afternoon boating on the river posting this from my cell while drinking a Ninkasi. You guys are too funny. I post regarding an issue that myself and others had and I even posted links to your revered darkcointalk forum and am immediately attacked by the resident clowns. Apparently you guys have the idea that I don't deserve to own drk or run a MN. Well I now have a small but not insignificant investment in drk. I am running an MN. I might setup a few more. That's my prerogative. You and the rest are now just attacking me out of spite. But that's just human nature. |
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The IP of my MN is = 68.168.100.26
If someone want to play with it...
 Beautiful. Now you clowns are condoning hacking. I always said darkcoin was a coin for those with nefarious intentions. I don't really care. The only thing on there is the masternode. Have fun scumbag hacking my VPS you pathetic loser. |
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That is total BS. In over 6 months, that never happened to me, or anyone else. May my customers come and chime as well.
You're a sad example of a human being.
This clown doesn't have a MN. He's just in a different lunatic phase right now. Maybe got moved to a different ward, who knows? Yes he got one, he didn't deserve it, that true. I got the IP of his MN : 68.168.100.26 Don't worry, I'll be switching to another vps since I know the race is on to hack that one. In fact.......... Good luck. |
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That is total BS. In over 6 months, that never happened to me, or anyone else. May my customers come and chime as well.
You're a sad example of a human being.
This clown doesn't have a MN. He's just in a different lunatic phase right now. Maybe got moved to a different ward, who knows? You'd like to believe that wouldn't you. It must chap your hide to know that I'm running a masternode and getting paid. |
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Yeah its total bullshit. Ive been running over 50 masternodes and never had that problem, although i opened all the local walkets many times.
Ok smart guy. How about we set a time and I'll share my desktop with you and we'll replicate the same scenario that I'm talking about. Are you game? Because I have nothing to hide. What I said happened and by reading some of the posts in this thread https://darkcointalk.org/threads/drk-guide-rc3-masternode-windows-local-linux-remote-vultr.1367/ other individuals experienced their masternodes dropping off as well. So do we have a date or not? When do you want to do this? Is skype okay? Do you know how to use it? If I have to share my screen with you goons to prove you wrong then that's what I'll do. So if you want to see this I suggest you create a skype account and I'll send you a meeting invite and share my screen. We'll completely stop the masternode then restart it, wait a few minutes and then open and close my local wallet and watch my masternode drop off the network. Then we'll restart the masternode, I'll keep my wallet closed and you can watch https://drk.mn/masternodes.html and notice that it stays online if I don't open up the wallet again. Just name a time sometime tomorrow or whenever and you'll see. |
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tbh i think Mr. Troll is just trolling us with that remark...
No I actually did get screwed out of a masternode payment by someone out of compliance and I want my drk! I started my masternode last night and I only have two payments when I should have three because someone didn't pay the 20% they were supposed to. I feel violated like I was robbed. And I don't like feeling this way. So enforcement needs to start ASAP now that these guys are keeping drk's that belong to me. You are a sick person. Months of trolling and flaming DRK, now you complian you're not getting your MN payments... booo-hoo!! You have no clue whats going on and you deserve no DRK at all See that's you're problem. You're too busy worrying about whether or not I deserve dark to keep an eye on your own affairs. Now you're underwater and lashing out at those that have been making bucket loads of btc the last couple of days. And for the record nobody deserves drk. It's a commodity now to be bought and sold by anyone with the btc to get in the game. And yes I want my masternode payments. Why wouldn't I? You are seriously losing man. I think you need to turn off your computer for a few days because you're obviously having a breakdown. GhostPlayer the self appointed holder of the DRK keys. He'll decide who deserves drk or not. What a joke. Don't you just wish that you could go back in time and undo some of the stupid things you post? |
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That's the guide I used. Linux VPS and Windows local cold wallet. One thing I would point out is that there were people in that thread stating that if they closed their local wallet their masternodes would go offline. What I found to be causing this in my case was that after you start the masternode and close the local wallet, if you open the local wallet up again and close it the masternode goes offline. I noticed this after my masternode had been running fine for a couple hours and then was offline. I had reopened the Darkcoin wallet on the local machine and closed it. I tested this a couple times and the result was always the same. The masternode would go offline if I opened and closed the local wallet after it had been closed following entering the masternode commands in the console.
That is total BS. In over 6 months, that never happened to me, or anyone else. May my customers come and chime as well. You're a sad example of a human being. I don't give a damn what's happened to you or not. Maybe you should read this thread on darkcointalk. Or do you even know how? https://darkcointalk.org/threads/drk-guide-rc3-masternode-windows-local-linux-remote-vultr.1367/Since you're obviously challenged in more ways than one I'll copy/paste the posts that describe exactly the situation I posted about along with how I was able to resolve it. nice guide!
but i still got a problem 
when i get the message from the local and the remote server that the hotcoldmasternode is enabled i shut down the local wallet....after that (round about 10minutes) my remote masternode goes offline because the lastseen value in the masternode checkpage gets bigger and bigger and finally gets kicked from the list.Hi icewood,
Same problem for me, no answer for now:
https://www.darkcointalk.org/thread...cro-ubuntu-for-masternode-part-2-3.241/page-7damn...
i got the same version and configs like you...and the when i keep the local wallet online, everything is fine...
i hope someone can help us to get the cold storage remote/local solution work...Hi, i followed your guide exactly, and the masternode is running, but as soon as i close the local wallet on windows, the remote masternode stops being listed. Any idea?Maybe not the same issue but with the lack of technical knowledge that many of the people running masternodes have I doubt that they are conveying all of the pertinent information or behaviour that is preceding their issues. It could very well be that they did the same thing that I did and opened and closed the local wallet after it had been closed after issuing the masternode start command in the console. I didn't bother to read the rest of the thread to see if a solution was posted as I am very technically inclined and decided to troubleshoot on my own. And every time I opened up the local wallet after it had been closed after issuing the masternode start command my masternode would go offline once I closed the wallet again. Without that behaviour of reopening the wallet my masternode has been online for hours. And for the record, masternodes have not been operating for six months so you can talk all you want about you and your customers but it's just more B.S. out of your ignorant mouth. I was trying to help people avoid a headache and posted my actual hands on experience. If you don't want to believe that I know what I'm talking about then fine. But don't come on here calling me a liar just because your a butt hurt bagholder that's pissed I made a whole bunch of btc off of DRK the last couple of days. There is a difference between me and you. I am objective, straightforward and to the point. You're a fanboy that dances around the facts that doesn't offer anybody anything except your ignorance. |
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ASK and you shall rec'v :-)
FINALLY got a MN payment !
10 days - longest run yet :-P
2014-08-20
I guess I'm lucky. I received two in a few hours after starting my MN up. It would have been three except some noncompliant scofflaw didn't pay the drk. It makes me mad that someone else is sitting there with my drk in their wallet. |
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tbh i think Mr. Troll is just trolling us with that remark...
No I actually did get screwed out of a masternode payment by someone out of compliance and I want my drk! I started my masternode last night and I only have two payments when I should have three because someone didn't pay the 20% they were supposed to. I feel violated like I was robbed. And I don't like feeling this way. So enforcement needs to start ASAP now that these guys are keeping drk's that belong to me. |
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Something needs to be done about this ASAP.
 Now why did you have to go and do that? I have valid concerns as a masternode operator. I'm not getting all my payments because there is no enforcement currently turned on. It has cost me money already and I'm damn mad! We need the pool police out in full force tracking these scofflaws down. You guys might have been okay with letting these thieves get away with your drk's but shojayxt is running a masternode now and he expects to get paid! Things better start changing fast and if I lose another payment because these guys are not in compliance I'm going to be one unhappy camper. It won't be pretty that's for sure. To all those out there out of compliance, Pay Up! You know what you're doing and it needs to stop. Don't make me track you down to get my drk's. This coming from the nº1 troll of this thread ever... now you're an MN owner... man you're one sad human being... No I'm one successful investor and I know what I'm doing. Gotta know when to get in and when to get out. I got out at double the current price and I got back in at well below half the current price. I'm here to make money and that's exactly what I'm doing. Lots of it. So no I'm not sad. I'm extrtemely happy and giddy with joy right now. But apparently you can't be satisfied. You whine when I talk bad about drk and you whine when I don't. Can't please everyone. Have a nice day |
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Another security question. If you use cold wallet for your masternode, is there any danger when someone compromises your server? Even if they manage to break the authentication they still have no access to the local wallet with 1,000 drk and can only seize wallet.dat on the server, which is usually empty, right? PS I still have a decent pw, disabled root etc. but would like to know what is the worst thing that can happen Correct, if your server is compromised the worst that can happen is that they shut down the daemon and/or use the server for their own purposes, which you can put a stop to by contacting your VPS provider or shutting it down and re-imaging it with a different IP and security credentials from your dashboard. Hopefully you have monitoring in place to alert you that something is amiss, and can act quickly. The likelihood of your server getting hacked if you have nothing but darkcoind running, all ports except 9999 and ssh closed, and a strong password or ssh key is very, very low, and if it happens it will be almost certainly down to sloppy practices in your password/key management locally, so make sure your local box is locked down too. Ok this is what I needed to hear as well. I guess its time I put up a masternode. Anyone have a link to the best up-to-date masternode creation guide? (i assume this goes for RC4 as well) That's the guide I used. Linux VPS and Windows local cold wallet. One thing I would point out is that there were people in that thread stating that if they closed their local wallet their masternodes would go offline. What I found to be causing this in my case was that after you start the masternode and close the local wallet, if you open the local wallet up again and close it the masternode goes offline. I noticed this after my masternode had been running fine for a couple hours and then was offline. I had reopened the Darkcoin wallet on the local machine and closed it. I tested this a couple times and the result was always the same. The masternode would go offline if I opened and closed the local wallet after it had been closed following entering the masternode commands in the console. |
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Something needs to be done about this ASAP.
Now why did you have to go and do that? I have valid concerns as a masternode operator. I'm not getting all my payments because there is no enforcement currently turned on. It has cost me money already and I'm damn mad! We need the pool police out in full force tracking these scofflaws down. You guys might have been okay with letting these thieves get away with your drk's but shojayxt is running a masternode now and he expects to get paid! Things better start changing fast and if I lose another payment because these guys are not in compliance I'm going to be one unhappy camper. It won't be pretty that's for sure. To all those out there out of compliance, Pay Up! You know what you're doing and it needs to stop. Don't make me track you down to get my drk's. |
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That's correct everyone. I've updated the original post:
THE ICO has sold out!! Thank you for your support! Due to community feedback, we have requested Bittrex to open trading at 11am PST. NOTE: the wallet will not be delivered until the original date of 9/14, but we are striving to deliver earlier as previously stated. Please note: You will not be able to withdraw.
Thanks again everyone! I need sleep like the desert needs rain lol.
Sincerely,
syntaks
I'm disappointed you've decided to do this. I'd hoped it might be something other than a pump&dump coin, but this will be under ipo prices by midnight PST. A shame, really. This coin will have a very hard time of it once it actually does launch with a trail of price downtrends behind it. lol you just missed out, its a community decision. dev credibility is still intact because he did say he will speak to richiela about it and ofcourse richiela agreed to it too. loving this close bond with dev and bittrex. expect fireworks, That's the one thing that bothers me the most. The close bond between dev and bittrex. I don't trust any of the exchanges so it concerns me when I see this trend towards devs working behind the scenes in close cooperation with the exchanges. Granted there needed to be cooperation due to the fact that this was an ICO but it's a disturbing trend. And when the exchange operator vouches for the dev it makes things look a little too cozy. I put some btc into this based off of the original ANN. Now after I buy the terms are changed. I should be able to get a refund but this is cryptocurrency and there are no rules. Terms can and will be changed at anytime. And they have in this case. Basically new coins should just state in the ANN "This is just a vague outline, we'll change anything we want when we want" . Had I know that this was going to be traded before the Sept 14th date I wouldn't have bought any at this time. This will likely go back to ICO levels soon and then people will start selling at a loss to free up their btc and move on to the next pump and dump. I was hoping this wasn't going to be like all the rest but it's starting to look that way. I'm not fudding on the coin or the concept. I invested in it. I just think that changing the rules AFTER people have invested based on specific information is wrong. It's already been pumped to .0002 and dumped to .00014. It's too bad because it had a potential. Now it's just another pump and dump which will likely get even worse once the mining starts and miners start dumping daily. I'm contemplating dumping everything I have for a small profit and just moving on. I'm sure others feel the same way. It was a very bad decision to start trading already. Nobody can move their coins off the exchange so they will just be sitting there and if the value doesn't rise to levels people expect they'll just dump for a small loss if necessary and move on. You've taken the withdraw to local wallet and hold option out of the equation. I hope I'm wrong but I've seen this scenario too many times before. to address some of your points firstly bittrex isn't your small exchanges it has had volumes of 7000btc. if bittrex has been faithful throughout this do you think they care about the amount here. if you can't trust richiela you shouldn't be trading on bittrex at all. as far as miners are concerned, if you say 2btc is a dump then i think your in the wrong coin and good luck with your investments. secondly you say people can't move coins and people may dump well there is nothing stopping to dump if they were allowed to withdraw. they could simply transfer the coins and sell no big deal. this ain't just another one of your ipo's to make a quick buck ofcourse it can triple or quadruple your investment but hey we have real tech and this is the feature most people are buying it in for off-the-chain #anonymous transactions (transactions are sent anonymously through a secure farm of nodes). Well I don't care how much volume bittrex does and I don't know richiela so there is no way I could blindly trust him. Besides, this is crypto. I don't trust anyone. Trust will leave you with less btc. It doesn't matter how faithful you claim bittrex is, it's an exchange and it operates to make a profit which is why there was no problem with starting the trading and collecting trading fee's. Anyway, if you're happy then fine. If I'm not then I can still sell what I have for a profit. But looking at the order book, I would take the price right down to the ICO price if I did. We'll see how this turns out I guess. thats cool your entitle to your opinion on one side you say you don't trust bittrex but yet you deposit btc to trade there. we have buy orders waiting im sure you won't affect us I said I don't trust exchanges. I didn't single bittrex out. I have to trade somewhere and this was the only exchange offering the NEOS ICO. I will tell you one thing. If you keep running around the crypto world trusting people you're going to get burned eventually if you haven't already. That's a fact. I do hope this coin succeeds and that I'm wrong. I'll drop this since there isn't anything I can do other than sell my coins and I really don't want to do that. |
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