The OP is entitled to his opinion (whatever it may be), but as others have already written, I can only repeat that it is a really bad idea to "convince" someone in any way that they should invest in Bitcoin, and that's just for reasons that one day he would profit when he sells at a higher price. With such an approach, we turn Bitcoin into some kind of get-rich-quick scheme, and not what it actually exists for.

If you are already telling someone about Bitcoin, then at least start from trying to get people interested in trying to use BTC as a currency, and how to learn to be their own bank. Someone who shows no interest in these things should probably not buy BTC at all, although everyone does what they want with their money.

@ImThour, at least you, as a Legendary member, should know the difference between Bitcoin and crypto, and since no one mentions Bitcoin explicitly, what is this topic doing in the Bitcoin discussion? Even if the figure is miraculously true (and of course it isn't), people who invest in altcoins have messed up in the long term anyway, whether they will be screwed by inflation or 99% of crypto projects that will fail in the next 2-3 years.

What I noticed is that "someone" persistently pumps this kind of "research" in that country, because a few years ago we had a similar discussion, only the number of those who owned crypto was 18%. You don't need to be too intelligent to conclude that various CEXs are using the economic situation in that country to create the impression that everyone is buying cryptocurrencies, which is actually a tactic for them as companies to attract more clients and of course earn more by charging high service fees.

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In addition, I noticed that some members warn that we no longer write the name of the country as Turkey, new is Türkiye.

https://www.npr.org/2023/01/08/1147704945/the-state-department-will-begin-spelling-turkey-as-turkiye

For someone who is new to all this, every group he comes across is great - it's enough to write a catchy name and promise profit, and before you turn around, thousands of members will be making millions, just like the guys from Wall Street

Next year at this time you will be a millionaire

I also thought that it was hacked only twice, because this is the first time I found out that the first hacking happened back in 2011, and it seems to me that maybe the biggest damage was done then, if we take into account that no one noticed the hack even 6 days, and that the hacker took over the Satoshi account. Fortunately, it was still the early days of the forum, because if something like that were to happen today, it would create a real circus.

We know that every coin has two sides, so cryptocurrencies should not be taken for granted as something that contributes to the world exclusively in a good way. A large part of the "crypto industry" is actually a factory of lies and deception that generate huge profits for those at the top of the pyramid, while the rest try to pick up only the crumbs, hoping that they will get lucky with some project that they will invest in at an early stage and that will turn into something extremely profitable.

The OP is simply too optimistic and does not see (or does not want to see) reality, which is unfortunately much different from the illusions he is talking about.

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I think we already had a discussion on this topic and that it is obvious that Bitcoin payments (on-chain) when it comes to microtransactions is really not a practical or cheap way of payment. As an alternative solution there is LN, or even some of the altcoins that have cheap fees (or none at all). In economies where every penny counts, saving a few dollars a day can mean a lot.

I wonder what it is with you so-called OGs who wake up one day and decide to make fools of themselves after all that we could hear and read over the years when it comes to Faketoshi. There are people who believe in solid facts, and then there are those who believe in fairy tales, which is nothing bad if you are a 5-year-old child.

Nevertheless, for consolation, you are not alone in your beliefs, even the famous Gavin Andresen at one point shared the same opinions as you, which is even more strange considering that he is a man who was one of the closest associates of Satoshi Nakamoto. It might be a good idea to contact him (send him a PM on the forum) and ask him if he still feels stupid because of his statements.

If none of that helps and you still think that Faketoshi is the real Satoshi, I suggest you move to Colombia, because there they still think a little differently than the rest of the world.

You are absolutely right, these are not compassionate people who choose their targets and they don't care if their victim is someone who has only $100 or someone who has $1 million. However, those who send such e-mails are nothing more than ordinary vultures who hope to pick up the remains of what is left behind by the Kwon-Bankman scam pandemic, and you should not be surprised at all that you receive such e-mails, because I also often receive e-mails from various CEXs, although I only registered on one once upon a time.

The best advice that everyone should apply is to never click on links in e-mails until they are sure that they come from a legitimate source - and we can easily find this out by checking the sender's address and comparing it with the e-mail address that is always on to a legitimate website.

As others have already written, it's a bad idea that doesn't achieve anything positive, and even threatens your privacy even more because most CEX require KYC.

If you don't want to use mixers for some reason, then you can try to make several wallets (5 or 10) and mix coins by sending transactions between them. It also won't completely protect you from all these companies that sniff and analyze the blockchain, but if you have some coins that you think could be "suspicious", then this way of "mixing" can give you a certain security in case you send such coins to some centralized platforms that perform deposit analysis. I can't say how deep they go in their analysis, but they probably won't look at more than 10 transactions in depth.

If someone were to search the forum for the question you are asking, they would find dozens, if not hundreds, of discussions asking the same question. Recently, someone opened a topic in which he asks just that - and 6 pages of discussion will give you some sort of general view of what the members think about it.

Can 1 satoshi be worth $1 in the future?

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There is always hope, you just don't need to be so focused on just one thing in life, because you might miss an opportunity that could actually change your life for the better. What I want to say is that you cannot expect Bitcoin to save you in such a way that you will live better in x years, even those who have much more money for such investments cannot expect that.

It's the same as asking why people change jobs, or why they go to different restaurants or shops - everyone has their own preferences that make them choose what to promote at a certain moment.


For some, it's not all about pay rates, but also about what they promote, and if the differences in pay rates are very small, then it makes sense to choose a campaign that is less demanding, regardless of whether that campaign pays less.


I was also in one campaign for more than three years and I don't see anything strange about it - you have excellent conditions, an excellent campaign manager and you are promoting something that you think has benefits for the community.

To me, this looks like someone who watched too much of The Da Vinci Code, and then got the idea to enter into a business venture in which he will try to establish an "elite club" in which he will charge $77 a month because that is the number that represents "divine wisdom and enlightenment." and everyone in the club will be happy and rich.

I'm not going to any illuminati club, I'm going to have a good time tonight and I'll be happy to spend $77x2 on some much better things

If we look realistically at how an average Bitcoin investor thinks, then we don't need to look for any additional explanation as to why so much dust is being raised around this ETF. The whole thing revolves around the fact that most people are counting on BlackRock and other companies of that type to cause a big bull run, and all that remains after that is to sell BTC and take as much profit as possible.

Of course, these same people are counting on the fact that sooner or later the price will drop significantly again and that they will be able to repeat the whole process again, but the question is whether history will repeat itself with such big players in the game.

What should also not be forgotten is the position expressed by BlackRock regarding possible forks, and this opens up a completely new dimension in terms of how they think about it - which leads to the conclusion that at some point they may even try a fork of their own.

Probably he can hardly stand the price below $26k, and maybe he decided to seek solace in a good whiskey - this one has never disappointed me -> https://www.glenfiddich.com/12-year-old

It will be interesting to see how the accused will try to defend themselves considering all the evidence presented, and I wouldn't be surprised if they try to ignore the whole thing and hope that the mods won't see enough evidence for a permanent ban.

On the one hand, I understand that some members think they can do whatever they want because they are online and nobody can do anything to them (which is not true, of course), but I don't understand that someone who wants to cheat the system can be so naive as to use the same coin addresses or profiles on social networks on all profiles...

Nice work @lovesmayfamilis.

I understand that phrase very well, because I felt on my skin what the phrase "Serbian world" meant when they tried to create a Greater Serbia in 1991, and they partially succeeded in that by occupying 49% of the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina, which today is practically part of Serbia, although still not formally on paper.

If you look at what happened then in the area of Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, you will see that Russian tactics are almost identical to Serbia's, whether it is the political or military action of both countries towards their neighbors.

What happened in my country should never happen in Ukraine, namely that 99% of all crimes were amnestied, and that war reparations were never paid, and that those who participated in the worst crimes became part of society. That's why I said that real peace and justice can only be achieved if you drive away the aggressors by military means, but for that you will have to pay the highest possible price.

You are asking a beginner's question as if you have never read on this forum or elsewhere that all cryptocurrencies seized by the American authorities will sooner or later be auctioned and sold. Officially, the matter is very clear, cryptocurrencies are sold and the money goes to the state budget.

You know what's even more ridiculous about your statement? That do you think that the US should give up investing in its military budget and thus buy a bunch of shitcoins or Bitcoins and then use them to defend itself in the event that there is a threat to national security

A question for you - how much BTC could the US buy if all the money from the military budget was diverted to Bitcoin?

There is logic in using such gas, but those who constantly attack Bitcoin using the environmental vector will not say that this is something positive if we know that they focus on Bitcoin consuming electricity like a smaller country. They don't even care that the losses in the electric network on an annual level in the world are about 50 000 TWh, but they are worried about the absurdly small 200-300 TWh consumed by BTC during the whole year, and at least 50% of that comes from renewable sources.

The saying "We do not negotiate with terrorists" is well-known, but I think that after the withdrawal of the US from Afghanistan, it became completely meaningless, considering that the terrorists became good guys literally overnight. Even your president is starting to change his rhetoric a bit when he talks about possible political negotiations with a "terrorist state" when the conditions are met, referring to successes in the military field.

If we take into account the number of people who die in this war, negotiations are something that is logical and humane, but on the other hand, until the Ukrainian soldier stands on every meter of Ukraine and drives away the occupiers, we cannot say that Ukraine has succeeded.

Africa has always been exploited in the past, and this is the case even now, only Europe may not do that anymore, but Russia will take the main role - and the people who live there obviously do not understand that they must free themselves from all foreign influences if they finally want to start living as the rest of the world.

It seemed unfair to me from the first moment I heard about bounty campaigns, and that's why I've never participated in such things because the risk factor is simply too great compared to the possible reward. The problem is that most of those who participate in such campaigns do not understand this risk and are often disappointed in the end when they receive nothing or some worthless tokens.

Regardless of the fact that some will disagree because they have personal financial benefits from all of this, I somehow look at it as using those who are desperate enough and also uneducated as cheap or even completely free labor. We can also call it modern internet slavery without any reservations, no matter how ugly it sounds.

No matter how you look at it, it really took them a long time to do something, not to mention the fact that those behind that bot network probably started several bot networks in that period, and some of them are probably still functioning today. It's an eternal game of cat and mouse, and the cat is happy because it caught the mouse, regardless of the fact that countless mice are still around it.

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I'm somehow convinced that much more damage was done through fiat than through cryptocurrencies, because at the time when the bot network was supposedly created, Bitcoin didn't even exist, and it wasn't until 2017 that BTC made its way into the mainstream and became popular with hackers. Even today, the number of people who own cryptocurrencies is below 5% of the total population, but there is no doubt that hackers exploit them much more than one might expect.