THANKS YOU FOR HELPING!!! OK, I make flag on both scammer what happen now? I don't see them.
Now we need to wait for other users to review your flags and perhaps they'll support it. That would put a red box on the threads started by those two users and hopefully that would serve as a warning to potential victims... I supported flags, correct me if I am wrong but both users accounts have been tagged for scamming and they had red boxes visible to newbies and guests, or? Even if that box wasn't visible, I am failing to understand how OP missed all tags  |
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Catchabtc is independent and has nothing to do with Busta [...]
Yet you forgot to completely remove bustabit's name from the FAQ when you pirated the source code:  This is some new level of retardation. I changed topic title to something more appropriate. ~
Another sockpuppet: luckymann1, they just discovered forum and went straight to catchabtc's thread to say how site is fast and amazing  Archived: http://archive.is/IeNhY |
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Besides the fact reports are unhandled for illegal activity (selling accounts with KYC), in which case is this user?
How do I need to report this one to get some mod attention?
Try with " selling documents - illegal trade", it should be more than enough (it is also spam, so you can write in comments something like " user is spamming the same content - check recent post history")  Best way to report is to include the evidence, as links. This would make the check much easier for the mods. There is no need to include link to reported post for reported post, moderators are not blind  |
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This is the Original post !
It really isn't original post, devans posted link to thread which has been removed. Thank you for your Opinion ( it Seems like you just talk as simple as the cow make a shit , just to promote ur own Dice that is very far against CatchaBTC Statistics )
We do appreciate your low IQ
This sound very professional. Perhaps you shouldn't call pirated game legit and... probably fair? |
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Again, I don't intend to say anything bad against these users but this is just an example that shows that "scambusting" is a very effective avenue to build reputation, maybe the most effective.. I am pretty sure there are much easier ways to "build" reputation: 1) do trade, use escrow - get trust (all 3 parties) 2) take smallest loans you can get, repay early - get trust 3) sell trinklets - get trust, send trust to everyone, make sure that people who buy from you will get positive trust so everyone who wants trust will buy from you. |
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I never said do nothing, this is what is called a "false choice" logical fallacy.
No, this is something called "I am not interested in your political games". No, its called a lack of a logical argument so you need to make character attacks to distract from it. If you are right about this you could prevent potential scam
Character attacks? Interpretations? You literally suggested second chance for user who has strong connection to scammer because they are " overall constructive addition to the forum". You are not hypocrite? You accused FH for deleting topic which he said he didn't remove and then you tried to hide behind question mark - and now you are lecturing us about "harming innocent users"? You suggested OP to do "nothing" unless account: I would highly suggest you simply monitor the account and collect evidence if it reveals itself. I know you have good intents, but there are a lot of ways you might cause some unintentional harm here. Unfortunately the user is now aware you suspect them, so if they are up to something illicit they may now attempt to conceal it. If the account does act as if they are setting up fraud of some kind, then I think some more public scrutiny would be warranted.
If that happens, who will decide it is fraud? Or maybe account is not hacked and you will harm innocent user by waiting "something" to happen and then accusing them, which will potentially cause them more damage. I suggested OP to reveal account earlier, you suggested later, my logic is wrong and yours is correct? |
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I never said do nothing, this is what is called a "false choice" logical fallacy.
No, this is something called "I am not interested in your political games". |
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Paying attention to details is very important part of every investigation/research, it doesn't make someone autist, but I guess some people on this forum believe they are doctors. I would rather say people who habitually lie have mental disorders, but as I am not doctor I can't say for sure... Oh really? Please explain the primary method of earning a positive reputation here other than trade. I am very interested to see this verbal semantic dance.
You have questions in this thread directed towards you, so if you find time between meriting posts and going off topic please address them. |
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I don't want people to fall victims to scams either
It doesn't look so, just recently you said something like "scammer is overall good member" and they "should be unbanned". It is impossible to protect everyone from themselves and their own lack of due diligence.
If we "protect" at least 1 member I would say that is a good progress. Make small steps. Or, do you think, "if you can't make big steps don't do anything at all"? That would be wrong. Even if innocent this whole mob justice OCD process you have all set the precedent as being the norm is an equal if not greater threat to innocent users because it is unending and there are zero repercussions if you are wrong.
I think you are very hypocritical here. I am sure you believe you are doing what is right
Exposing scammers and making newcomers and people who fail to do due diligence is not right thing to do? That is another side of trust system. Do you think trust system should have only one side? So what is wrong with exposing potentially hacked account? |
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I would argue that this should be the course of action no matter who the account is. Frankly there is enough info here for the resident autists to dig this up as it is. What is more important is the behavior of the person in control of the account.
Explain "enough info for the resident autists" This is one of my primary grievances with the culture of this forum. If you are right you get to feel good about yourself and tell everyone how great you are for preventing scams, raising your own profile in the process. If you are wrong, oh well it costs you nothing to seriously invade some ones privacy, disrupt their life, income, and possibly burn their reputation. No skin off your back, so fuckem right? I have hockey pads, I can be Batman too!
This mentality is exactly why systems of due process exist in law, and exactly why Theymos made some of the most recent trust system changes.
Explain meaning of "raising your own profile" |
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This is one of my primary grievances with the culture of this forum. If you are right you get to feel good about yourself and tell everyone how great you are for preventing scams, raising your own profile in the process. If you are wrong, oh well it costs you nothing to seriously invade some ones privacy, disrupt their life, income, and possibly burn their reputation. No skin off your back, so fuckem right? I have hockey pads, I can be Batman too!
This mentality is exactly why systems of due process exist in law, and exactly why Theymos made some of some of the most recent trust system changes.
No you overreacting narcissistic moron, if someone suspects that account has been hacked or changed hands it should be shared among other forum members to prevent potential scam, especially if it is "trusted" account. It has nothing to do with feeling good or whatever you think it does. Some people don't like scams and are fighting against it, it has nothing to do with "raising profile", like it or not. |
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Hacked or sold? Can you post account ID? If you are right about this you could prevent potential scam - highly green trusted account in wrong hands can be dangerous. If you are wrong don't worry too much about it, you have every right to suspect that some account has changed hands because of "certain things". Also one problem is that their is a lot of potential for bias against this account and I can't help but feel some would just love for it to be erased from BTCT history..
What do? Stick to facts and proofs, ignore the rest
Edit* I should probably remove last part as it looks like I repeated "suchmixer's"  words, but, the truth is, I should probably click "preview" button next time before posting something... |
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The feedback you received from Vadi2323 isn't even counted as a trusted feedback therefore it is hidden in your account and won't reflect anything in your future trades, his negative feedback is good as a hearsay on his part there is really no point in fighting it because it won't have any bearing in your reputation. The only chance it will get removed if he gets a negative feedback as well from DTs which the red tag will reflect on his account. But like I said there won't be any bearing to your account like the negative feedback you have sent to him, this will be solve if a DT member steps in and side on who he thinks is right. But if I have a negative untrusted feedback as well it won't really bother me that much.
Timestamps...Vadi2323's -ve feedback was visible as they were DT2. It was countered and later removed because Vadi2323 has been removed from DT and Vadi232 got "neutral comment" for trust abuse and I got retaliatory neutral because of that comment:  I want to suggest OP what I have already suggested them, ignore this livecoin shill account and don't engage into any conversations with them, "you will never win battle against shill account". |
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Seems like he has sent you item. He is offline for last two days, so, when he "wakes up" and if he doesn't send you tracking number create red flag and it will be supported, but, I believe he will. account isnt hacked, he sent me same btc address he have used in March this year.
May I suggest you to ask for signed message from older bitcoin address next time? Just in case... |
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Znam, ali onda ispadne ponekad smiješno kada pratiš topic pa vidiš da je neki post izbrisan, ali par odgovora na taj post nije, pa onda preko quote skužiš o čemu se radilo i onda ti baš nije jasno i nema logike zašto je neki post offtopic a zašto odgovor na taj offtopicpost nije isto offtopic
Off topic odgovor na off topic post se po običaju briše, znam ja, obrisano mi je dosta off topic postova i odgovora na off topic postove. ZNači da netko svoj ''posao'' prijavljivanja radi ''selektivno'' i možda s nekom namjerom ali nema veze, s obzirom što se događa na drugim dijelovima foruma kod nas je još super.
Ne bih se baš složio da je selektivno ali da je super, tu si u pravu. Recimo, neki tamo prevarant otvori skroz glupu optužbu protiv mene https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5118852.0 i što se dogodi u temi? Hrpa off topic postova, al neko prijavio samo moj post i on je obrisan: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg50165648#msg50165648Nije da sam postavio pitanje glede toga, nije da su drugi korisnici napomenuli da su i drugi postovi off topic, nije da mi je obrisan odgovor na optužbu što moderatori inače po pravilu ne bi smjeli raditi...gluposti, čovijek se više ne može ni braniti protiv optužbi
Ajmo ovako, idemo tražiti moderatora opet. Što ćemo navesti, zašto trebamo moderatora? Sigurno ne budemo rekli da trebamo moderatora zato što "mi je obrisan off topic post a nekom drugom nije" pa nam treba moderator da "obriše i moj i tuđi off topic post". Malo glupo zvuči? |
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Someone must have reported them for ban evading? (it wasn't me), a stealth mod banned them all  I don't know. According to modlog, 17 accounts are banned, not sure if they are all related:  Anyway... ...is on that screenshot and... ...is not, but account is banned. |
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seat prices costing less than a faucet payout
Which faucet? LAST SEAT PRICE: Theymos has requested that we ignore this idiot, even as he keeps prodding for more drama. Why not just pm TMAN then? Seems like a prod for more drama. Of course this is an attempt at getting more drama. Timestamps? Thread was pretty much inactive since theymos said this ( 14 days ago), and fingers are pointed at TMAN, even thought TMAN isn't the one who bumped thread? Please... I don't think theymos has commented on this thread specifically
But he did, look https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5178813.0, it is posted on previous page of this thread. Anyone reviewing this thread can read the first couple of pages, and can come to their own conclusions.
...and previous page as well. |
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discussing possible scam of very high risk projects
It would quickly turn into FUD board and at the same time SHILL board. |
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