And you think Wikipedia isn't bogus? LOL!
No, wikipedia is only an example of a common understanding of the symptoms of zinc deficiency. The same facts can be found in any diagnostic medical reference. Regardless, do millions of people suddenly develop zinc deficiency? TO the extent that people I know are suddenly dying of this illness? Hospitals are empty because elective surgery and other work is being postponed. Of course, duh. Who would want to go to a hospital today. This is a case of you are being lied to and you are believing and repeating lies. |
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if there were explosive charges
you would see the explosive charges taking out all the columns of every floor If you were close enough to see this, you would be dead, long before you recognized what you saw.
what badecker is not realising is building are designed to collapse on themselves anyway when their colums fail
.. badecker thinks the columns failed due to explosives.. but there were no 'bang bang bang bang' explosives. there was just crumbing
But if you want to see the explosive residue found in the Twin Towers, watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkaX5n3pfZE and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOWWSjol6Ps.
2 things can weaken columns. explosives. and damage
the building was damaged due to debris from the planes in the buildings next to it
These buildings were designed to withstand plane hits like the ones that happened on 9/11.
the study badecker got spoonfed wants to make people think that buildings fall like a lumbered tree, sideways.
but badecker is wrong.. they are not designed that way
for many common sense reasons.. such as the building being in a well populated area so designed to cause least impact to other buildings should something happen
Demolition experts can barely cause buildings to fall the way they want when the whole demolition is controlled. So you think that the design from years before could make the buildings fall... like the designers had a crystal ball? If you get any sillier... oh go ahead. We need some more laughs.
badacker cannot show any sign of explosives (the bang bang bang) and only crumbling of already damaged columns.. so is resorting to suggest that buildings meant to lean over naturally.. but only fall down straight if demolished,
just shows how small minded he is about most things as usual. mainly small minded about common sense
Explosions in the Towers before the collapses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_A9X_8flGeM, and the explosions, themselves, this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnyiT9gCYlA. Sorry franky1. You better go back to school. What!? You never attended school? I take off my hat to you. You are doing very well for somebody who never went to school.   So now the "proof" is not from paid Chinese spies disinformation to "Youtube proof." And no, there wasn't any bang-bangs in those towers. But if there were, then can you please provide all that info to the US military? They might want to be sure that our troops only shoot an enemy when a land mine is going off under his feet. You know, just to be sure? |
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Like we're supposed to believe that the architects and constructions workers were so good that they could make a building that you could do just about anything to, and it would still crash, just at the right time, almost at free fall, into its own footprint.
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Beats believing a "study" by two Chinese disinformation agents who duped one old doddering professor. I think it would be relatively simple to design a building to fall inwards. First semester engineering statics, maybe the next semester dynamics. Maybe... Of course most European and US people wouldn't believe a couple of Chinese researchers. They're not of a high enough IQ to recognize what the Chinese found. What did the Chinese find? A place to sow division and disinformation propaganda, by teaming up two subversive agents with a doddering old fool of a professor. They simply found more proof that the whole 9/11 thing was an inside job. More likely they were paid disinformation agents, who fabricated results to concoct an anti-American story that naive, ignorant and gullible people might believe. |
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You look scary. But in a medical Metter like this, the choice of protection cannot be based on scary looking.
Better to be live and look scary than be handsome in coffin. Some life-hack for you. Instead of using costly 3M filters attached to 3M respirator you can place small pieces of medical cotton into compartments with membranes for inhaled breath and cover them with the shreds of papers used for ULPA filters. In turn that coverings cab be fixed tightly by rubber bands of appropriate diameter. I'm using bands cut off from the end of children balloons. Good comment, but why should I believe you are correct? If you can show a simple method to test the efficiency of your materials when used as described, that would be quite valuable. I'm good with making filters for the masks, but if I run out and make them, I'll have devised a testing method to insure that my product does perform adequately. Otherwise a person would be relying on sheer guess work and essentially killing himself. |
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Yeah, ordinary masks are useless in the fight against Covid but respirator-grade ones like 3M 6000, 3M 7500 and such are good. Combined with both the right protective goggles like swimming ones and gloves they are capable to safe your lives. In this respect, it is also important to select correct size for both respirator and goggles that fits the face. 3M 7500 family: This mask is not to face Covid. It is for soldiers that are fighting in Syria... Stop scaring people and try to make them buy things that they are not necessary for them. This situation and discussions just cause panic to them... I have both the 3M and the N95 masks and have occasionally used them on various jobs. A couple of hours of work with something that generates dust or airborne particles, like cutting concrete, and the N95 really does not do the job. How do you know? Go do it, then blow your nose. Your snot is colored and looks like 1/2 the dust generated. Conclusion: 95% is not so great. The 3M masks are great, you feel better and healthier, and really get clean air. The negatives of the 3M series ARE THE WAY YOU LOOK! You look scary. But in a medical Metter like this, the choice of protection cannot be based on scary looking. |
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Like we're supposed to believe that the architects and constructions workers were so good that they could make a building that you could do just about anything to, and it would still crash, just at the right time, almost at free fall, into its own footprint.
....
Beats believing a "study" by two Chinese disinformation agents who duped one old doddering professor. I think it would be relatively simple to design a building to fall inwards. First semester engineering statics, maybe the next semester dynamics. Maybe... Of course most European and US people wouldn't believe a couple of Chinese researchers. They're not of a high enough IQ to recognize what the Chinese found. What did the Chinese find? A place to sow division and disinformation propaganda, by teaming up two subversive agents with a doddering old fool of a professor. |
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There might be another reason behind those deaths.
Even if they were afraid of coronavirus it wouldn't be so intimidating to give to your life an end to this.
Maybe economic or social reasons might be the main reason and coronavirus another one.
I'm going to lean towards the fact that a lot of people who were suffering from mental illness (think Depression) are going to be having a bit harder of a time now. Imagine being able to at least go to work and socialize with some people, see your family,etc -- now all you can do is sit in your apartment and talk to people on the phone? This is a rough time for people who were having issues before this, and don't really know where to turn to now get help. I know you can do some therapy online (I'm pretty sure this is the case at least) but I'd assume that's not the same. Economic fears are going to be pretty bad right now. Imagine already being poor, living paycheck to paycheck and working at some sort of low paying job (maybe McDonalds) and then you're unable to pay the bills, have no idea when you're going to be reemployed, money from the gov is gonna take weeks. Plus Trump admin is estimating 100-240k US deaths. It's like the 1930's economic depression, mass unemployment coming, virus deaths. And in all that people are being forced to stay alone in their homes feeling depressed and sad, with nothing to do. People sure need some cheering up real soon. Who knows how this is going to play out. For those with growing problems and mental issues, seeing a psychologist might get difficult as social distancing is in force. I've seen some coverage on TV of groups going around to old and invalid peoples' homes to provide meals. I would agree with seeing that extended to people with a history of mental problems in this current situation. |
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LOL this is all bullshit I absolutely do not trust China in terms of statistics about the situation - I am sure that things are much worse there Thank you to the Party for a happy start of 2020! I love how we all know that we cant trust China for literally anything -- think GDP stats -- but then you have some people being like "L000000K AT CHINA THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB" They're not doing a great job, they're literally fucking lying about their numbers .... One way to approach understanding this is to look at how regions of Russia reported their progress during the Cold War on their "Five Year Plans". Half lies all the way up the chain of command. So rather than thinking the highest levels of China were lying to you (maybe they were, maybe they were not) you can absolutely count on those in charge of various towns and villages fudging the numbers they were sending upstream. Another complicating factor is that culturally, Chinese don't go to doctors until they are practically fixing to die. A LOT of them are into herbal medicine, or herbal first, Western second. And this particular disease, I don't think it's very forgiving if you hit the hospital about day 10 of an infection. Just some comments, for what they are worth... |
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"Chinese researchers isolated deadly bat coronaviruses near Wuhan animal market" https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/30/china-researchers-isolated-bat-coronaviruses-near-/"Biosecurity researcher Richard Ebright, a Rutgers University professor at the Waksman Institute of Microbiology, said the coronavirus behind the pandemic is 96.2% similar to a bat virus discovered by the Wuhan Institute of Virology in 2013 and studied at the Wuhan CDC. The virus could have jumped naturally from animal to human but also could have escaped from the lab, he said." Hmmmm... HMMMMMMMMMMMMMM Yes, there is a published scientific article on this. If you want I'll dredge it up. |
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The comparable, in my opinion, should be the Spanish flu of 1918, in which 50-100M died.
If we are out of this with 250k, that would be a good outcome.
Agreed. At the peak of the second wave of Spanish flu, we had 25,000 cases per 1M, now, in the US, we have about 500 cases per 1M. Multiply all the numbers by 50, add multiple waves and you get the picture of what the peak will look like. By Easter Sunday we'll have 1M+ cases in the US and 25-30K dead. The sad part is this will be just a cloudy day before the hurricane. Related. This is a very interesting article I found, it which a researcher attributes the Spanish flu to a Chinese origin. By way of background, it was called the "Spanish Flu" not because that was it's origin, but Spain newspapers were discussing the flu, while most countries suppressed news of the flu. No nation wanted the enemy to know that it's soldiers were dying more from flu than battle. Spain was one of the earliest countries where the epidemic was identified, but historians believe this was likely a result of wartime censorship. Spain was a neutral nation during the war and did not enforce strict censorship of its press, which could therefore freely publish early accounts of the illness. As a result, people falsely believed the illness was specific to Spain, and the name "Spanish flu" stuck.What caused the Spanish flu? The outbreak began in 1918, during the final months of World War I, and historians now believe that the conflict may have been partly responsible for spreading the virus. On the Western Front, soldiers living in cramped, dirty and damp conditions became ill. This was a direct result of weakened immune systems from malnourishment. Their illnesses, which were known as "la grippe," were infectious, and spread among the ranks. Within around three days of becoming ill, many soldiers would start to feel better, but not all would make it.
During the summer of 1918, as troops began to return home on leave, they brought with them the undetected virus that had made them ill. The virus spread across cities, towns and villages in the soldiers' home countries. Many of those infected, both soldiers and civilians, did not recover rapidly. The virus was hardest on young adults between the ages of 20 and 30 who had previously been healthy.
In 2014, a new theory about the origins of the virus suggested that it first emerged in China, National Geographic reported. Previously undiscovered records linked the flu to the transportation of Chinese laborers, the Chinese Labour Corps, across Canada in 1917 and 1918. The laborers were mostly farm workers from remote parts of rural China, according to Mark Humphries' book "The Last Plague" (University of Toronto Press, 2013). They spent six days in sealed train containers as they were transported across the country before continuing to France. There, they were required to dig trenches, unload trains, lay tracks, build roads and repair damaged tanks. In all, over 90,000 workers were mobilized to the Western Front.
Humphries explains that in one count of 25,000 Chinese laborers in 1918, some 3,000 ended their Canadian journey in medical quarantine. At the time, because of racial stereotypes, their illness was blamed on "Chinese laziness" and Canadian doctors did not take the workers' symptoms seriously. By the time the laborers arrived in northern France in early 1918, many were sick, and hundreds were soon dying.https://www.livescience.com/spanish-flu.html |
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Like we're supposed to believe that the architects and constructions workers were so good that they could make a building that you could do just about anything to, and it would still crash, just at the right time, almost at free fall, into its own footprint.
....
Beats believing a "study" by two Chinese disinformation agents who duped one old doddering professor. I think it would be relatively simple to design a building to fall inwards. First semester engineering statics, maybe the next semester dynamics. Maybe... |
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Surgical masks are simpler than masks But if you do not need an excessive amount of you do not got to read the mask you only said it should be worn when going out repeatedly it's needed to save lots of some from cough and cough. But the mask can never be saved from the Coronavirus The mask are going to be just to guard yourself.
Almost nothing but vague and wrong ideas in this thread. This is the year 2020, you have google. You can easily look up procedures for wearing masks of various sort when in the vicinity of infectious diseases. |
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if there were explosive charges
you would see the explosive charges taking out all the columns of every floor
what badecker is not realising is building are designed to collapse on themselves anyway when their colums fail
.. badecker thinks the columns failed due to explosives.. but there were no 'bang bang bang bang' explosives. there was just crumbing
2 things can weaken columns. explosives. and damage
the building was damaged due to debris from the planes in the buildings next to it
the study badecker got spoonfed wants to make people think that buildings fall like a lumbered tree, sideways.
but badecker is wrong.. they are not designed that way
for many common sense reasons.. such as the building being in a well populated area so designed to cause least impact to other buildings should something happen
badacker cannot show any sign of explosives (the bang bang bang) and only crumbling of already damaged columns.. so is resorting to suggest that buildings meant to lean over naturally.. but only fall down straight if demolished,
just shows how small minded he is about most things as usual. mainly small minded about common sense
Not only that, but bldg 7 had been essentially "hollowed out" to create a huge atrium in the inside. It didn't have its original structural integrity. The building was situated above a Consolidated Edison power substation, which imposed unique structural design constraints... On September 11, 2001, the structure was damaged by debris when the nearby North Tower of the World Trade Center collapsed. The debris also ignited fires, which continued to burn throughout the afternoon on lower floors of the building. The building's internal fire suppression system lacked water pressure to fight the fires, and the building collapsed completely at 5:21:10 pm, according to FEMA,[5]:23 while the 2008 NIST study placed the final collapse time at 5:20:52 pm.[6]:19, 21, 50–51 The collapse began when a critical internal column buckled and triggered structural failure throughout, which was first visible from the exterior with the crumbling of a rooftop penthouse structure at 5:20:33 pm.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_World_Trade_Center |
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Going by past numbers, that means that 8 people died with nothing known wrong except coronavirus, and I'll bet that even that is high.
99.1% of deaths are from people with pre existing conditions.  I don't see your point though. What percentage of the world do you think has a pre existing health condition? It's gotta be 35%+. You can have a pre existing condition and still live a long comfortable life. You're acting like they all are about to die anyway. At least. One more comment. Never, EVER think that something like 1% is something you don't have to worry about. 1% is a huge number, one that you want to be on the winning side of if gambling, but never on the losing side of. |
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"A study". Looks like it's actually "a study" by one guy, who is a doddering old 80+ year old who has not published in 20 years..... and two "students" .... Chinese .... ? A Chinese disinformation scheme? |
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Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries. while in Africa nobody cares about the prisoners if the virus will affect or kill them, not minding that they are also our loved ones trapped behind walls, who need help, because the virus has no boundaries, I read about prisons in the amazon deriving funds from inmates to pay $4 for treatment or checkup before they will be issued with hand sanitizers and facemasks, but the government is supposed to make free provisions for them because they labour too with their sweat and energy.
We should'nt forget the prisoners they are human beings serving capital punishments. What could be the best healthcare provision for the prisoners?
This is typical in my country, all prisons are State run but are worse than the typical condemned building in other countries. Prisoners getting infected and untreated (all diseases) is very common. For the most part if you have no money, you won't survive. All prisons are gang controlled, so you either sell yourself to work for the gang, or die. Working for the gang means what you can imagine: bully, extort, traffic, sex, fight with other gangs, you name it. They are called "universities for crime" over here, because if you survive, you will graduate from whatever mild crime you might have done into a full fledged criminal already part of an organization which often use the prisons as the headquarters, with the "boss" living there a life of luxury you would think comes from fantasy if i told you. One of the kingpins even managed to build a Zoo... Pools, brothels for underage girls, drug shops and "night clubs" are commonplace for the ruling gang (and their guests). I would ask you to search Youtube videos or online articles if you didn't believe it, but most of the "good" stuff is in Spanish anyway. Yeah, here in prison you have to pay for a piece of wall for you to sleep on, or a stair, or whatever. Of course food and medicine too. The State is... the source of officials to pay bribes to and have them bring you stuff, or something like that. The control within prisons is crime organized. There was once this woman prison director that wanted certain boss to behave more like a normal prisoner; her family was threatened and she quickly resigned. It happened a few years back, just to give you an idea. And yes, we share the Amazon, i doubt that is related, but our cultures are similar. This is the subject of Mel Gibson movie "The Gringo" although it is about a Mexican prison, but the descriptions are very similar. |
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- France: death toll passes 2,000
- UK: government charters rescue flights from Peru
- UK: coronavirus death toll passes 1,000
- Spain: All non-essential workers must stay home
- Italy: Deaths in Italy exceed 10,000
- Spain: Covid-19 outbreak "may be peaking"
- EU: 5,000 doctors call on EU to ensure refugees' safety
Way more than all this died in the French Revolution. Pretty close, as of today, 37,775 died https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countriesIn a month, we'll have 250,000+ dead. The comparable, in my opinion, should be the Spanish flu of 1918, in which 50-100M died. If we are out of this with 250k, that would be a good outcome. |
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In the past the big question was, "How am I going to make my $million?" Now the additional question is, "And where am I going to find any toilet paper to buy?" You are experiencing what my country did about 5~7 years ago, of course it was laughed off by foreigners. See who is laughing now. Get that soap while you still can... Saving water isn't a bad idea if you think there will be shortages (we have). Maybe buy and install a few tanks if you don't have. Fact: Humanity only started using toilet paper around 1920, exactly a century ago, when Americans introduced it as "medicated paper" or such. The history of the toilet (Water closet?) is also interesting, its on youtube. Very british. There's a new currency here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q981ano2Xg |
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It ultimately doesn't matter.
If the virus is manmade, according to whatever definition you prefer to use, then the chinese state is responsible. In this case, china must be destroyed.
If the virus is natural, again choose your preferred definition, then the entire chinese population is responsible due to their disgusting lack of hygiene. In this case, china must be destroyed.
China has no redeeming qualities. Besides their history of spreading plagues around the globe, including the actual plague, the spanish flu and the yearly sniffles, they are communists.
China delenda est.
I'd be cool with America trading our racist hate spewing knuckle-draggers for the Chinese unsanitary butchers. Much easier to teach someone how to safely butcher animals. You'd clean out the Democratic Party ranks if you got ride of our racists.  Realistically, those sorts of unsanitary markets and cultural attitudes are not just in China, I have seen them all over the asian world. And oddly enough, the crude, harsh and totalitarian Communist party would be the Overlord that ordered such practices to stop. That would be done at international outrage but would NOT be acknowledged as being due to it. We're deep partners and friends with the Chinese people, and we are largely responsible for their being lifted up out of the darkness of Maoism. But it's a gradual process, and there is much for them to learn from us. And us from them. |
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